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govegan Donating Member (661 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 02:12 PM
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Is choosing a plant-based diet a moral issue?
When we think of the drastic effects of global warming, can it be otherwise?

Dr. John McDougall has been at the forefront of the health & science based rationales for plant-based diets for decades. His December 2006 newsletter is powerful and provative in its focus on the true causes of global warming.

link: http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2006nl/dec/061200.htm

From an article by Physicist Noam Mohr

The focus solely on CO2 is fueled in part by misconceptions. It’s true that human activity produces vastly more CO2 than all other greenhouse gases put together. However, this does not mean it is responsible for most of the earth’s warming. Many other greenhouse gases trap heat far more powerfully than CO2, some of them tens of thousands of times more powerfully. When taking into account various gases’ global warming potential—defined as the amount of actual warming a gas will produce over the next one hundred years—it turns out that gases other than CO2 make up most of the global warming problem.

Even this overstates the effect of CO2, because the primary sources of these emissions—cars and power plants—also produce aerosols. Aerosols actually have a cooling effect on global temperatures, and the magnitude of this cooling approximately cancels out the warming effect of CO2. The surprising result is that sources of CO2 emissions are having roughly zero effect on global temperatures in the near-term!


From an article by Dr. McDougall

Is Change Realistic?

Al Gore wants us to switch to more efficient forms of transportation, not to give up our cars overnight. An enthusiastic campaign to reduce our dependency on livestock would not have as a primary goal making everyone become vegan (eliminating all animal foods); but more realistically, to cut the consumption of meat and dairy products—say, in half in 8 years. That could mean something as simple as asking people following the Western diet to consume on average two to three times more mashed potatoes (or other starchy vegetables) daily, instead of their usual animal-based foods—I believe this is not too much to request in order to save the earth!

Al Gore Does Not Discuss the Role of Food Animals

Not once during the 96 minute presentation, An Inconvenient Truth, did Al Gore mention animal foods as a cause of global warming or suggest any form of management of livestock as a solution. This oversight would be similar to not mentioning cigarette smoking in a discussion of lung cancer. With all due respect to Al Gore, I must speculate as to why he ignored this essential connection. Ignorance could not have been the reason. Catastrophic damage to our environment from livestock, especially cattle, has been recognized for decades. Nor do I believe his exclusion of this topic was for political correctness. His documentary is filled with unrestrained challenges to almost every segment of business and society. Al Gore is a brave and honest man, but he has human frailties, too.


This oversight would be similar to not mentioning cigarette smoking in a discussion of lung cancer.

"To possess moral rights is to have a kind of protection we might picture as an invisible No Trespassing sign......Moral rights breathe equality." Tom Regan from Empty Cages

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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 05:17 PM
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1. That was my biggest criticism of Inconvenient Truth, too.
People will not give up meat until it is so fucking expensive they cannot afford it. I think you could get the average American to drive fewer miles a week than give up their precious fucking meat. :eyes:

My family will not even come to my house for the holidays because there will be no meat. "It's just not the holidays without a turkey." :puke:

What is really amazing to me is they can't imagine what we eat, yet when I listen to them talk of various meals they have -- meat & potatoes, meat & potatoes -- we have considerably more variety in our diet than they do.

Thank you for the link. I didn't realize McDougall had a newsletter.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:00 PM
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2. I've come to expect getting
beaten up over such a post elsewhere. It's a moral issue, yes. It's also an ethical one, if an individual knows the toll eating meat takes on his or her health/environment as well as the lack of any humane treatment of the animals involved.

Nice username, btw.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:40 PM
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3. Of course it is.
Anybody who knows enough to ask the question knows the answer, whether they choose to act on that realization or not.
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