is soy "fattening"?

[mzteris]

someone said that to me recently. . .

[Ellen Forradalom]

1. Soy what?

There is a huge variety of soy foods.

[mzteris]

2. I dunno -

the comment was "soy".....

I excused myself from the conversation as I wasn't comfortable with the direction it was taking (anti-veg/pro-meat).

[Ellen Forradalom]

4. Good move.

Blanket statements like 'soy is fattening' leave you nothing to discuss.

[flvegan]

3. Yes, if you eat more of it than your body can burn calorie wise.

However, if you were to take X oz of soy v. X oz of steak, then no. Soy has a much better caloric value and a higher bioavailability protein wise.

Some people are uneducated about the things they talk about.

[flamingyouth]

5. This is the correct answer.

:applause:

[chatnoir]

6. I've read that soy is goitrogenic...

That it has thyroid depressant properties. I don't know to what extent though. Googling it brings up some articles.

Not trying to freak anyone out about soy, I've been veg for almost 20 yrs and love tofu myself. :)

[Tumbulu]

7. some people maintain that fermented soy is different than straight soy

In my old days when I was part of the first wave of anti gmo scientists and farmers I testified before the EPA with a representative of an organic soy growers cooperative in the midwest. This was in the mid 90's. We all failed to impress them. It was heartbreaking and at that time only the Europeans and the Japanese cared about the issue at all.

The representative from the coop told me a lot about soy that I did not know. It turns out that these organic growers only grew soy varieties from Japan that were not bred the modern way (first with mutagen chemicals or radiation and then with genetic engineering). All these soybeans were tested for being gmo free and then sent back to Japan to be fermented and used in their soy products. He took a very dim view of the modern "green revolution" soy varieties and eating them unfermented.

Tofu is a fermented product. Miso, tempeh, etc are as well, I think.



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[flamingyouth]

8. Interesting.

Thanks. :hi:

[CountAllVotes]

10. you are right

being soy is a fermented product, I cannot eat any more of it.

Also, many of these "soy drinks" are very high in calories and also loaded with "cane sugar, etc.". Not advisable for persons that are diabetic or have other sugar related problems needless to say.

Doing a serious read on labels lately has been a real eye opener, believe me! :wow:

more on this:

>> However, miso, shoyu, natto, and other naturally fermented foods in the standard macrobiotic diet that are made with salt usually can be eaten in small volume. Overall these foods will contribute to alkalinizing the blood and helping reduce the spread of undesirable yeast. In contrast, the fermented foods that underlie the condition are made with vinegar, wine, spices, or mushrooms. However, several macrobiotic seasonings and fermented foods that do not have much salt should be avoided until the condition improves. These include brown rice vinegar, umeboshi vinegar, young miso (white, yellow, or red varieties), tempeh, and amasake. Noodles may be eaten twice a week if well cooked in vegetable soup, but be careful because these are a flour product.

[peacebuzzard]

9. good answers here. Edamame isn't fattening.

and can be addicting.

[Critters2]

11. Yes, yes it can.

I love edamame.

[defendandprotect]

12. I remember my daughter was using soy milk at one point . . . it had a lot of salt in it ---