Owners of 2009 iMacs and Macbook Pros: Upgrade your machine to 8GB, for only

[Deja Q]

$600
http://www.memoryupgrade.pro/8gb-apple-macbook-pro-2009-15-inch-266ghz-aluminum-unibody-mac-memory-2x-4gb-mc016g/a-pc3-8500-ddr3-1066mhz-so-dimm-upgrade.html
(search their site for the iMac memory and it's the same chip)

If you go to Apple's site, they sell compatible RAM for only $1200... :wow:

[struggle4progress]

1. Try here, too:

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/apple/memory/

[Lost-in-FL]

2. $515

http://www.memoryamerica.com/sk34g106mb.html



I usually get my RAM here: http://dealnews.com/memory/

[comtec]

3. What kind of chip?

I GUARANTEE the same chip but "PC" is a HELL of a lot cheaper, and does exactly the same- but without the brand label!

I like the OS, I just don't like the designer religion that comes along with it.

[Deja Q]

4. Until you add the cost of the OS that goes with it... Now, and send this reply to your friends,

Homebuild PC:
Q9650, 3GHz $300
8GB RAM $200
Good Asus MB $200
Good case $100
Semi-worthy Video card for gaming: $300
700w power supply $150
Good sound card using PCIe $100
GOOD, 24" H-IPS or S-IPS panel monitor: $700 -- not the crap TN panels that can't reproduce colors or show them at most angles without shifting, bleeding, or other issues.
-----------
~$2050
(approximations from the last time I put together a PC, which was about 18 months ago, the power supply is likely cheaper these days... maybe the net cost is closer to $1900. Whatever.)


Never mind the new i7 processors, mobo, RAM, and the prices they command (OUCH!!)


Add in Vista Ultimate or Win7 ultimate, full version ($400) (or if you have an existing version like XP, that's $300 for XP plus $300 for Win7 upgrade edition -- and have fun installing the upgrade edition because they fixed the runaround people used for Vista upgrade, :spray: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: )

$2450 or $2650 NET COSTS. For homebuilding. A top-end machine. A good third of that going to the monitor alone, but anyone using a TN monitor isn't going to do serious graphics or photographic work. Enough readily-found articles will prove how bad TN is without my ranting against them... You can get the $500 HP monitor that claims "92% color gamut" -- then read the review online and wince. But nobody's going to tell you the caveats...

And given how PC fanatics upgrade their hardware to be the fastest, just so the newest Windows won't crawl as slow, the extra video card or other peripherals are frequently replaced (re-activation is fun, especially when occasional reports still come out that MS never got it right... like they really hate piracy, they openly allow it in some countries and I've mentioned that link enough times to vomit ("How Gates Conquered China", CNN, July 2007 if I recall the date correctly).

Similar name brand high-end PCs are in that $2000 range as well. Low-ends are $1000 or so, but don't forget the subsidizing crapware that losers on purported tech forums now want OEMs to put on a separate disc. They think they can have things both ways or that we don't know WHY the crapware is installed to begin with?! :dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce:

The registry, NTFS fragmention problem (and don't forget, MS originally hawked NTFS claiming fragmentation was a thing of the past - *bzzt* ), and others... long-term maintenance is a real bear for Windows.



And yet it's Apple is more expensive? Bull plop, yanked fresh from the cow onto the dinner table. That's what the claim is.

And, trust me, you NEED that much power for Microsoft OSes. That is such a JOKE.

Now onto iMac desktop specs:

iMac:
3GHz dual-core
4GB RAM
Integrated H-IPS panel monitor
200w power
With Snow leopard
Nvidia GTX120 w/256MB (remember, video RAM is only made use of by basic desktop functions or video games; nvidia sells the Quadro line with different drivers made FOR 3D apps, but that's a separate argument)
$1699

A few cost shavings, obviously, but there's no crapware either.

And OS X is far more fluid in feel than Vista EVER will be, and Win7 seems to be more empty promises from MS as well. "XP Mode" for compatibility? Well, Linux and Mac and others have emulators to do XP too. No advantage for MS there... Even with Win32s during their Win3.1 days, MS is used to playing games and pulling tricks than actually delivering. Been there, done that.

OS X does NOT need the massive power (processor, RAM, or energy) that Winbloat does.

Having worked with windows PCs for 20 years, I don't need your erroneous lecture. How long a list would you like? On a small handful of posts, months ago, I did post a few times - with at least 19 topic points. Like Windows Worshippers(tm) would be bothered (or even know how to, perhaps) read...

Yes, Apple is a brand. So is Dell. So is Microsoft. So is Red Hat. What's your point?

And Apple users have some sort of "designer religion"? You think I light 20 candles around my Mac and pray to it or something? "Oh merciful unibody aluminium, please stroke all my fun parts in eternal glory", is that what you anti-Apple zealots tend to think?!! :eyes:

And to preempt the other inevitable empty argument, in the 1980s, Apple, Commodore, and others all used the same microprocessor with minor varying controller chips. Yet nobody whines "I can't run Commodore OS on Apple, waaaaaaaaaaaah". The excuse it's okay to pirate OS X because it runs on the same Intel CPU as Windows -- out the window it goes. (Never mind, the infinitely more efficient EFI, amongst other variances, helps ensure that even Windows runs best on a Mac... those studies were funny to read... but I would never subject myself to the registry - not ever again...)


I could go on for ages, but, again, I have a life to lead. One day you'll realize all this too.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Damn the secret is out... BEFORE I removed DW from drive

to reinstall it... I lit candles and gave proper blessings to the Gods at Cupertino...

Damn you go out and tell them about the secret hand shake...

:-)

Oh and today on the scriptures of OS X, and the Lord saith onto the people, ye shall load your computer with 1 Gig and all is well with the world.

And we say

AMEN

:hi:

[moggie]

6. There IS a hella markup on Apple memory, though

If I were to buy a 4 GB kit from Apple for a 2008 Pro, it'd cost me £617
If I bought it from Crucial (as I've done for years, for PCs and Macs), it'd cost £85

It's the same damn memory! Crucial isn't some fly-by-night generic, it's the retail arm of Micron, one of the top memory manufacturers. I've never had any problems with their memory. Their FBDIMMs for the Pro have the same unusual heatsink as the official Apple-branded modules, and may even come off the same production line.

It's not just memory, of course. If you were crazy enough to buy a Pro internal disk from Apple, you'd pay more than three times what you'd pay elsewhere.

Apple are not alone in this, of course. Back when I still herded Sun systems, I was used to crazy memory prices. You either paid through the nose for Sun memory, or saved a lot by going to someone like Kingston, and gambled with the possibility of Sun weaselling out of maintaining the system if they noticed. It's a racket.

[comtec]

8. Thank you!!!! That was the only point I was trying to make

I've worked on Macs in the past, and used MUCH cheaper PC parts (when applicable) to repair them.
There is no reason to pay for Rolls Royce, when it's really a VW.

Macs are fine computers - I have in fact recommended them over PC's (gasp shock) to users who really just needed easy systems to use.

[comtec]

7. Wow you have alot of time on your hands

I was asking about the MEMORY chip!

As others have posted buying a base-Mac then upgrading it after market is cheaper because you can use PC parts.

I thought I had already conceded the value of the Mac OS to it's users?

I only complain about the gold-plating apple charges for( and the insane religion).

My only point was there is no reason to pay apple prices for a memory chip component, when the identical chip costs about 1/2 to 1/3 as much. =]