Need help with streaming ando media player streams

[madokie]

using ubuntu 9.1 and wanting to listen to KPIG.com radio

TIA

I've got VLC and totem 2.28.1 on this install.

[RoyGBiv]

1. Do they have a shoutcast stream?

I can't even get the one embedded into their main page to play on Windows.

At home, it loaded in the embedded Dragon player (which means it would work with VLC too), but the stream never starts. Same thing is happening at work.

If they have a shoutcast stream it's simple, but I don't think that's what this is, and I can't figure out if it not starting is my problem or theirs.

[madokie]

2. I can put my mint 7 cd in and boot to it and kpig plays fine

I've loaded every player and plugin I can find and still no play. I think its a shoutcast steam or used to be a while back.

[RoyGBiv]

4. Which distro?

Are you on Ubuntu 9.10 now?

I lose track. :)

It works in Mint, as you say. Dragon player, which embeds itself by default in Firefox in Mint 7, will play it, which means gmplayer is playing it, so VLC should.

However, if you're using Ubuntu straight, it may not have the codec required, and I don't know which one it is. The comment below about pulseaudio may in fact be on target. I'll dig a little more and see if I can work it out.

[madokie]

5. I know I've been all over the place on trying the different distros

and my bad that I didn't mention 9.1. I think its the one I will stick with, I have autocad up and running in wine just fine with it and that was my biggest worry. I see this sound problem as a way for me to be forced into looking past the cover, so to say, so I can better understand the program I'm using.
I couldn't imagine going back to windows now at all even though I know my way around with it much better right now.


I removed pulse auto as per the instructions as Dead_Parrot posted but stll no kpig radio
Is it possible to add dragon player in 9.1? I'm going to go look

Would it be possible that the language that autocad menus is written in and linux be simular

[RoyGBiv]

6. Possibility ...

... and it's not a great one.

Adding Dragon wouldn't be a problem, but it may not help you.

Apparently somewhere along the line FAAC (AAC encoding) became non-free. There's some dispute about this. It's supposedly released under an LGPL license, which would make it okay, but it seems it doesn't fit the terms. Or something. So, ffmpeg, which does a lot of the multimedia work for Linux, is crippled. There's also dispute about whether this disables encoding only or encoding and decoding. I can't find a consistent answer.

I haven't done any testing with 9.10. I tend to shy away from the x.10 releases (or x. on SuSE) until they've been in the wild awhile, and this is the reason.

Plurgh ... I started to write out some random thoughts, but then I realized they really are random. As I was saying, I haven't done any testing with 9.10, so I'm going to have to look into this more before I can form an intelligent thought. If this is your issue, there's a fix for it, but it's obnoxious. Someone will come along and offer a more automated fix, but apparently the discovery of the problem hasn't matured to the fixing stage yet.

For the moment, what happens when you click on the link there on the KPIG page to load the player and start the stream? Does any kind of embedded player show up, or does it just sit there doing nothing, or what? That info might help.

And, you did mention it. I just have reading comprehension problems, it seems.

As for the autocad menus, I couldn't say. I am totally ignorant of AutoCAD. Now, in theory, it would be possible. Whether it is done, I don't know.

[madokie]

7. As for autocad I have it with my own menus, my drawings and all, works great

That was a breeze compared ti this video and sound grrrrrrrs. KPIG goes to the player page and acts as if its going to play then it just says done and thats it, no playing. I can boot with wine 7 and go to kpig and play it the same way and it plays fine. so its just some thing I have wrong here. I really haven't found what I like in dvd burners either. I have a couple I"d like to copy but haven't found a burner fo do that.
I'm open to suggestions

[RoyGBiv]

8. Multimedia ...

You may just be having generalized multimedia problems. This is the downside of free, as in speech, Linux distributions. You more often than not have to do extra work to get the the multimedia to function. It's purely a legal thing that makes Linux look less than it is.

This is one of the things I really like about Mint. They've automated the process to the point it's almost invisible.

Have you done this:

http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-in-ubuntu-910karmic

I don't love the way these instructions are laid out, but I can get the site that normally has a good set of these to load at the moment. However, they work.

Do that if you haven't. It'll make a lot of your multimedia problems go away.

As for a DVD burner, I use k3b, which is a KDE app and isn't in the default repositories. Everything for burning is based on using the same command line utilities. All you're choosing is a GUI, some of which are better than others. I'm accustomed to k3b, so that's what I stick with.

Gnome Baker is supposed to be nearly as good and is integrated into the distro you're using.

sudo apt-get install gnomebaker

You also might look through this. Note that you'll have to make sure your sources list is is the same as his so that it's checking all the right places when you install packages. He provides it for you. Just replace your own /etc/apt/sources.list with his karmic.sources.list. (You'll have to rename his list to sources.list of course.) I'd back up your old one first.

Edit: My dumb ass forgot the URL

http://tnoergaard.wordpress.com/2009/11/01/to-do-list-after-installing-ubuntu-9-10-aka-karmic-koala/

From whatever directory you download it to (the first line is making a backup of your old sources list; reverse that if something goes wrong):

sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list sources.list.mine
sudo mv karmic.sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list

Then you gotta do the keys thing he mentions to keep apt-get and synaptic from crying at you.

sudo apt-get update

Then do whatever he says to do to install whatever you want. k3b is listed.

Again, you can do all this with Synaptic and a GUI, but I don't use it and can't do instructions on it well. It's straightforward, but the CLI method is actually faster.

[madokie]

9. I'm a command line kind of person myself too

spent too long with dos to not be I guess. I'll do these later tonight after a nap or if I'm lucky and sleep the whole night then in the morning. right now I'm working on some plans for a heat reclaimer for my wood pellet heating system. I have a lot of heat that is being exhausted out of the stove in the exhaust stream that I'm going to capture.

Thanks for the help, I'll liet you know how it goes.

I may before it's all said and done be using mint also as all my sound and video problems aren't there like they seem to be with ubuntu 9.1. When I install mint everything seems to work. So far I just like he desktop setup better in ubuntu.

[Dead_Parrot]

3. I believe it uses pulseaudio...

For which the standard fix for any problem is "Remove!" ;)

Required incantations and background info at http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8284273

Alternativley, go for a rummage in the repos and see if there's any codecs/plugins for pulseaudio missing, but it seems to get put in the "too hard" basket by most people.