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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 03:20 PM
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I give up. Too old and illiterate to figure this out.
I tried for the 7th time to download this update:

Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5 Family update for .NET versions 2.0 through 3.5.
(KB951847) x86.

Been to MS and other help sites. The general advice is to un-install everything .NET
What???? scares the heck out of me. I'm too old and and un-tech-savvy to understand any of it. My perfectly good PSC won't work with properly with Windows 7, HP never bothered with the proper drivers. Don't know how to transfer my info from this computer, even if I could afford a new one, which I can't. It sure is nasty getting old. Technology passed me by.

I am afraid if I go to Revo and un-install all the .NET stuff, I'll never find out where and how to reinstall the updated versions.

What will happen if I keep ignoring it? IF MS is capable of looking into my computer innards to tell me what I need to update, why can't they have that info ready to install instead of scaring the living heck out of folks like me? I should not have to go around un-installing and installing stuff that I don't understand.

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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:07 PM
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1. Ignore it and see if anything doesn't work
It's very possible that you have nothing on your computer that needs .Net framework. If you have, a message will pop up saying 'This application needs .Net Framework (Number ?) to Run). Worry about it then.
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 06:13 PM
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2. A million thanks. I have never rec'd that message from MS.
I am going to check now to see if I have the option of "don't show me this update again.

I appreciate your help.

PR

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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:06 AM
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3. If you uninstall all .NET items,
they will automatically come back in Windows Update to be reinstalled. You really have nothing to worry about. .NET isn't an integral part of the Operating System, your computer will boot and function just fine without any .NET components at all. Just certain programs use them.

You can ignore the update too, for the same reason.
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:22 AM
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4. No matter what I do, even in Custom updates, I can't do
anything. The computer will not allow me to install any other updates without this. All the others were grayed out when I tried to "do not show me this again".

I have MS .NET FRamework 3.5 SP1 in my list of programs. If I un-install that, will it allow me to update the other MS security updates? The one I can't seem to make work seems to be an update to this .NET 3.5. What type of programs need .NET?

One of the reasons I am having these problems I'm sure is that this is now an old computer. Works fine except my troubles come with MS or HP with either updates or new installs. My computer does not even have the correct drivers for the scan function for my PSC to work properly.


I appreciate your help.

PR
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 06:57 AM
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5. I posted in another thread this recommendation:
Download this tool: http://www.aboutonlinetips.com/repair-remove-and-uninstall-net-framework

Use it to remove all .NET items. It is actually pretty uncommon for typical users to have any .NET-requiring apps on their system. Generally it is for business applications and advanced web development.

After all .NET items are removed, reboot. Then go back to Windows Update - the .NET updates will be there again to install and you will probably have better luck.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 01:00 PM
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7. Several games require the .NET framework
I wonder if the OP has any of those?

I had this same issue trying to install the .NET framework on my XP Pro x64 machine. .NET never updated correctly, and the problems seemed to spill over into unrelated updates. For example, first it was .NET, then I couldn't update Internet Explorer (not that I use it intentionally, mind, but some things I have require it), then I couldn't get the cumulative security updates....

It was a mess, so I got 7. Never did figure out what the problem was....
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 03:29 AM
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6. Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527&st=1&wfxredirect=1&sd=gn

This(free)tool from M$ looks like it has possibilities, although I've never run it myself and can't verify first hand how useful it is or for it's (apparent) ease of use:

Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b1e76bbe-71df-41e8-8b52-c871d012ba78&displaylang=en

Brief Description
The Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer provides a streamlined method to identify missing security updates and common security misconfigurations. MBSA 2.1.1 is a minor upgrade to add support for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2.

Overview
To easily assess the security state of Windows machines, Microsoft offers the free Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer (MBSA) scan tool. MBSA includes a graphical and command line interface that can perform local or remote scans of Microsoft Windows systems.


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/security/cc184923.aspx

Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer (MBSA) is an easy-to-use tool that helps small- and medium-sized businesses determine their security state in accordance with Microsoft security recommendations and offers specific remediation guidance. Improve your security management process by using MBSA to detect common security misconfigurations and missing security updates on your computer systems.

MBSA 2.1 Frequently Asked Questions http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/cc184922.aspx

There's some screenshots of the tool's GUI on this DSL forum:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23231898-Microsoft-Baseline-Security-Analyzer-211

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