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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:40 PM
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Dean favors scaled-back healthcare reform
Former Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean on Friday threw his support behind passing a series of scaled-back healthcare measures instead of one comprehensive bill.

Dean embraced the approach now favored by some House Democrats in an appearance on CBS' "Early Show" Friday morning.

"We can't get the whole thing but I think we can get some good stuff done before the election," he said. "I would go back and do that though and run it through the reconciliation program."

Democrats in Congress have been scrambling to find a new way to pass healthcare reform legislation because Sen.-elect Scott Brown (R-Mass.) will break the Democrats' filibuster-proof majority in the Senate once he is sworn in.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/77503-dean-favors-scaled-back-healthcare-reform

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I heard Dean talking about this on Thursday, and the article sums up well what he said.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:02 PM
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1. Haven't actually read the thread . . . but did notice some others in Congress
seemingly suggesting this approach?

HOWEVER, I don't think we're hearing anything at all until we hear SINGLE PAYER,

MEDICARE FOR ALL -- AND AT LEAST PUBLIC OPTION --
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:24 PM
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2. You haven't read what thread?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:52 PM
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3. The thread/article you've just posted here . . . !!!
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:35 PM
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4. Howard is a pragmatist
he knows sometimes incrementalism is advisable. If you recall, he was practically lynched by the progressives inhis own state when he signed the Vt health care reform bill. It did a lot, but was NOT single payer, and all the other stuff that people wanted in a perfect bill.

The irony of the renactment of this on a national scale is not lost on Howard.

Because sadly, there just isn't a majority of us inside the Democratic party yet. But we've made real strides. I wish Howard was back at the DNC chair. Like he said, "when I was running things, we never lost a special election."
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 01:11 AM
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6. Well yes, incrementalism is advisable.
Edited on Sat Jan-23-10 01:23 AM by janx
But Bwhaaa---it isn't often accepted.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:32 AM
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5. It all depends upon what is in the "pared down" bill, doesn't it? Without
Edited on Sat Jan-23-10 12:56 AM by No Elephants
specifics, how can anyone possibly say s/he is for or against it?

The headline is very ambiguous, though. It could sound as though a pared down bill is Dean's first choice--favored over maybe comprehensive reform--when the truth is, he wanted comprehensivve reform, but will settle for a pared down version as better than zero.

But again, a pared down bill is better than zero only if the pared down version is a good bill and we have no way of knowing that yet.

I'd prefer the one element at a time approach some of the House members supposedly want. but I very much doubt that will ever happen.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/77459-house-dems-warming-to-scaled-back-healthcare-reform
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 01:19 AM
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7. Yep. But I heard him say, publicly, that he's convinced
Edited on Sat Jan-23-10 01:19 AM by janx
that's the way to go:pared down, then reconciliation.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 04:19 AM
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10. I understood from your first post that you heard him say it. Your hearing it, though,
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 04:31 AM by No Elephants
has anything to do with the point of my post. My issue is not whether he said it or not.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 03:12 AM
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8. I could even accept tepid and rational purely market based reform
because at least it would be an actual effort to fix the problems rather than a hodgepodge of mostly smoke and mirrors regulation along with a heaping helping of cost shifting, lack of affodability, lack of competition, and reduced benefits over time.

Hell, I could take the "starter house"/single wide of even the House bill, even without the sliver of a public option it would be moving the needle a hair but even with my standards lower than I could have guessed arriving at, the bill is a complete fiasco in my eyes.

I'm for going with trying to pass little bites and making the Confederates take some tough votes. Reid has failed to even attempt to box them in.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 07:09 PM
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9. a-FUCKING MEN TO THAT!
That's it in a nutshell. This is an opportunity to reveal the true colors of the republicans. Make them own their shilling for the corporations.

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