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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:44 PM
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I give up.
I can not post anything anymore without being attacked. I did not like that Obama on Randi said to get over the vote, Randi did not like it either.

I have been attacked viciously, one right after the other. I just said not to say get over it to Floridians. I am now the official destroyer of the Democratic Party. It is unreal how viciously I have been attacked.

We met with one of the DEC people today, she visited a while. I was stunned at the right wing talking points she spewed. She is nice, but she is falling for it all. I have to deal with it here locally, and I can't take it here anymore.

They win. No one does anything, even when I was called a maniac. Let them have it.
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a new day Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:54 PM
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1. Just keep working the local elections
Alliances are a lot easier to make when a little gratitude is added.

Where we went wrong is putting out for good of the party. There are many, many who are expert at using the grassroots as ladder rungs.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:00 PM
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2. Not sure I will.
Not sure it matters. They all love the status quo too much and blame the Republicans for it...they are all happy little Dem ostriches with their heads in the sand.

And many here are terrified of change.

After today and standing up for myself on threads that should have been locked early on, I feel like nothing matters.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:06 PM
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3. You are one of our strongest voices, mad!
Without you, there are no Howard-harmonics.
Please don't leave us to harmonize without you to carry the tune!

Take five. Then let's get back to work. I don't care if they think I'm crazy.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:19 PM
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4. I just got told off by janx.
Obama was right, we need to get over the vote. STOP the recounts.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:29 PM
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6. No, MF, that's not what I said. I just pointed out that Obama is
full of hope right now. We have a lot to accomplish. That doesn't involve stopping the recount (and if that's what he said, then I misunderstood and I'm sorry).
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:39 PM
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7. Yes, he said the vote was fine, the election was over, get over it.
Randi was upset, I was too. But I'm not anymore. I have learned he was right.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:29 PM
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5. Doesn't matter.
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:02 AM
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11. I understand your feelings completely
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 10:02 AM by Voltaire
Trying to get folks to get out of the way of the trainwreck is HARD! A lot of the time I would like to give up too. And this is with folks that are supposed to be on OUR side.

But I keep going. I have no idea why. I guess its because I feel for myself that I cannot sit idly by. I cannot make my words nice so others are comforted. There is too much at stake.

I hope you don't give up MadFloridian, yours is an important voice on this board. The efforts you put into keeping us informed are nothing short of heroic. I can't speak for anyone else but I appreciate each and every thing that you do, especially in the face of nastiness from folks that we should naturally be getting along with.

Hang in there, you're the best!

Voltaire
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:10 PM
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8. Do what I do
Laugh at the idiots and assume a "go fuck yourself" attitude. It works wonders.

Also remember that Dean is the only one of the pack who has had a positive impact on elections across the country. He has more to show than the others.

The brownshirts are bitter and possibly embarrassed. Who gives a shit what they say or think? Not me and you shouldn't care either. They are merely wasted space. Nobodies on an obscure DB.

You, OTOH, rock MF. Always a bright spot. You are the ultimate source on what's going on with Dean and DFA.

I salute you and am proud to claim you as an ally. :toast:

Julie
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:31 PM
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9. I'm not nearly so cynical. I adore MF.
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 11:32 PM by janx
Wait until you see what DFA does in the long run.

On the other hand,I found out about some construction tonight--I knew we had to move, but I'm not willing to live with cars to-the-mall whizzing by.

That will happen soon where I live, so I'll have to move.

I also heard about some Udall rumors, in addition to the Heath ones.

Things are looking up for Colorado---but maybe not where I live.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:03 AM
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10. Whaaa????
Seems like a few unrelated sentences here Janx. Am I especially slow or what? I don't quite get your post.

Julie
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