Interesting summation of Dean's Stanford speech at Kos.

[madfloridian]

Each thing I read brings out a bit more that he said. Lots of red meat, I gather. It is confusing to hear that he said he could be chair and then run, then later to hear he said the could not run if he were chair. Actually it depends on what he could negotiate.

Here is the diary. Interesting.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/1/233431/600
SNIP..."First, he is clearly thinking a great deal about whether to pursue the DNC chairmanship or reserve himself to run in '08. At one point he explicitly mentioned that taking on the former would preclude the latter. And when specifically asked whether he intended to make a bid for DNC chair, he ruminated on the fact that it's hard to say whether reform is better accomplished from the inside or the outside. He maintained that the DNC is rotten with the culture of losing, and that he isn't sure but that he'd rather continue with the grassroots angle that Democracy for America affords. But he also recognizes the potential power of transforming and reforming the Party from within.

Second, he hasn't backed down in the least in providing Red Meat to hungry reform Democrats. He began (assuming, correctly, that we were partisans) by saying, "I have some good news -- 51% is NOT a mandate." His criticism of the administration, both in tone and substance, could put many of us bloggers to shame. He used the word "liars" on several occassions, which is I suppose only newsworthy in that most other prominent Democrats are still shy of the L-word. (At one point, encouraging the predominantly student audience to consider running for office in the future, he said, run for library commissioner, run for school board, run for state legislature, hell run for president, I don't think there's a person in this room who doesn't think they could do a better job than George W. Bush.) He remains uncompromisingly optimistic, insisting that "we will prevail," despite last month's setbacks; he declared that radical right wing politics in America will eventually end up where they belong, in the trashcan of history...."

[JNelson6563]

1. Ah leadership

and intestinal fortitude. How refreshing! How I wish those who *think* they are our leaders would do the same.

Julie

[Rose Siding]

2. My own feelings about this DNC position are solidifying

It's good to see how he is framing the options and I can't imagine he would be eager to take a role that would preclude another run; I've seen a quote from him where he says he couldn't do both.

During the primary, when the DLC was kicking us in the teeth, Rosenberg embraced Dean's efforts with grassroot politics. This was at a time when very few at the operative, insider level were taking us seriously.

In the same article, he commended Stern for making the SEIU being more responsive to membership than traditional unions. (tho Stern's made some other choices more recently that confounded me)

Rosenberg has baggage- I think MF posted an old pro-biz remark he made that was uninspiring- but I wouldn't discount the ability of Dean and Rosenberg to ally with one another. -especially if DFA continues to be a vital organization.

Political intrigue aside, from snippets and a long view, I could see that working out.