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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:52 PM
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The DLC begins to define the battle...
Just so we can track how far to the right they want to run...Maybe it isn't to the right so much as it is away from anything honest. MM might not be everyone's cup of tea, but "anti-American"? That's just scooping up right wing bs and slurping it down.

We've got to repudiate, you know, the most strident and insulting anti-American voices out there sometimes on our party's left... We can't have our party identified by Michael Moore and Hollywood as our cultural values.
—Al From,
CEO, Democratic Leadership Council


You know, let's let Hollywood and the Cannes Film Festival fawn all over Michael Moore. We ought to make it pretty clear that he sure doesn't speak for us when it comes to standing up for our country.
—Will Marshall, President of the Progressive Policy Institute, the think-tank of the DLC

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 10:02 PM
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1. "You know,"
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 10:07 PM by janx
the media/DLC do not define our country.

It's time now to take our country back. It would help if more people would think or travel west of the Ohio River.

--jk

P.S. You may quote me. (!)
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:12 PM
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3. I made phone calls for
the Kerry campaign, and a lot of them went to Washington state. So it's not that the whole west was ignored.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:10 PM
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2. These guys have set up camp on an ice floe
That is such internalized inside the beltway claptrap its just awe inspiriring. I can almost hear the hankies being crinkled as they wring their hands.

Damn, are these guys trying to protect their phoney baloney jobs.

I was right. We need to move the DNC offices to Southern California because they've lost track of where the money and the trends are.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:25 PM
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4. No, we move to Texas, or somewhere south. Take the fight into the heart of
the beast.
I think Michael Moore should get a crack at the DNC.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:57 PM
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5. DLC made fun of anti-war voices...they WANTED this war.
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 05:58 PM by madfloridian
From April 2003, statement from the DLC.

No one should kid themselves on this. They wanted this war badly. They knew what it was about. They had to marginalize Dean and Moore and Kucinich and anyone else who spoke out against it. They agree Bush did not need the UN's approval, and they side with Tony Blair against Dean and Kucinich. Outrageous.

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=251490&kaid=124&subid=158

SNIP.."But Democrats must overcome both their own and the opposition's partisan instincts, and act in the national interest. The president's decision to prosecute this war without explicit authorization from the United Nations was a close call, but it was the right call. " (NO,it was not the right call, you fools.)

SNIP..."Democrats who have trouble accepting George W. Bush's sometimes confused and inarticulate case for military action to disarm Saddam should listen to Tony Blair. His argument rings like a bell.

"I understand why people hesitate before committing to conflict and to war," said Blair in his March 27 joint press conference with President Bush. "War is a brutal and bloody business. But we are faced with a situation where Saddam Hussein has been given 12 years to disarm voluntarily of weapons of mass destruction, that the whole international community accepts is a threat, and he has not done so. Instead, what we have had is 12 years in which he has remained in power with these weapons intact and brutalized his own people.

"Now, we felt we had come to the point where if we wanted to take a stand against what I believe to be the dominant security threat of our time -- which is the combination of weapons of mass destruction in the hands of unstable, repressive states and terrorist groups -- if we wanted to take a stand, then we had to act."

SNIP..."Democratic internationalism. We respect the right of other Democrats to disagree with our and Blair's conclusions about Iraq. But we cannot accept the claim that being against the war in Iraq is the only authentic and principled stand for Democrats -- for what anti-war presidential candidate Howard Dean calls "the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party." And we reject the idea that Democrats who voted for the use of force in Iraq -- including Sens. John Edwards, John Kerry, and Joe Lieberman, and Rep. Dick Gephardt -- are unprincipled opportunists. On the contrary, they represent the true Democratic tradition of muscular internationalism, and should be respected for passing up the temptation of opportunistically appealing to liberal and anti-war activists, especially in Iowa, the first stop in the presidential nominating process." (Shame on the DLC for this statement.)

Most folks in his own country disagreed with Blair. But not our DLC! They were with Bush on this all the way.

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