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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:15 PM
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Southern Baptists concerned about "Godless" schools.....
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 04:13 PM by madfloridian
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041204/NEWS/412040315/1021/LIFE

SEVIERVILLE, Tenn. -- Frustration with public education seems to be growing among the nation's Southern Baptists, with supporters of Christian schools and home schooling arguing that if God is absent from the classroom then their children should leave, too.

"What has happened is not so much that the Christians are leaving the public schools as that the public schools have left the Christians," advocate Ed Gamble said. Gamble is executive director of the Southern Baptist Association of Christian Schools, an Orlando-based group that supports the more than 600 Southern Baptist schools created in the past eight years.

"As the public schools have become increasingly secular and increasingly intolerant of things Christian, people who are openly Christian have said, 'I guess they are not part of our team anymore,' " Gamble said. The number of conservative Christian schools grew by nearly 11 percent between 19992000 and 2001-2002, to 5,527, according to the U.S. Department of Education's latest statistics...."

And this statement makes me realize that the influence on the schools that I saw before I retired is going to get bigger. We were already being urged not to have Halloween decorations up in our classrooms as they were "of the devil." The pressure is beginning here to make the schools more religous.

SNIP...."Boyd agreed there were "some serious issues in the public schools" to resolve but said the focus should be on supporting the teachers working in them, including many Baptists, and parents."

The only way that the Baptists here want to resolve it is to have it their way and no other.

And I will say that I am a Christian, and I am alarmed.

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 08:58 PM
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1. Atheists worried about Christian lunatics
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 08:59 PM by JNelson6563
Why can't these fanatics just be content in their fanatical circles? Why do they feel they must impose their insanity on all?

Ugh.

Julie

*Disclaimer* Comments not meant for all Christians, just the fundies.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:10 PM
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2. ...and Jebbie appealed the Schiavo case to the USSC too,
hmmm?

Fundies seem to be hopping in Florida these days.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:10 PM
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3. Good, let them finance and attend their own schools.
Hopefully, they won't have vouchers or "school of choice" to suck dollars out of the public till.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:38 PM
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4. That voucher law was declared unconstitutional so much.....
that I think Jeb has submitted it to the Florida Supreme Court for it to be declared unconstitutional again.

In our county, millions were given to private religious schools out of public school coffers. And to top it off, the recipients were private, did not have to take the FCAT, etc.

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 08:22 PM
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11. vouchers in florida are without question, unconstitutional.
public funding is expressly prohibited going to any religious institution. period.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:16 AM
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5. Do these stupid ass idiots not remember that little idea....
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 11:17 AM by RubyDuby in GA
Oh what was it?? Yes, that's it.....Separation of Church and State. As I was watching the excellent program on Ben Franklin the other night on the History Channel, they pointed out that the Founding Fathers were all Christians, but wanted a separation for the good of all people. They even went on to point out how Franklin edited the Declaration of Independence to remove overly religious parts.

If this separation was good enough for the Founding Fathers (people a hell of a lot smarter than these backwoods, backwards stupid hicks), then it's good enough for me.

Damn them straight to their own hell for trying to ruin this country with their zealotry. Bastards!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:45 AM
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6. Read this Letter to the Editor today and cringe.
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041207/NEWS/412070313/1037/EDIT

SNIP..."America needs to continue to go forward as a nation under God for the purpose it was founded for in our early years to provide a God-fearing nation that will give all people that wish to be free a place to excel. Those with a humanistic mind do not have the wisdom that is provided in the book of Proverbs that has 31 chapters, one for each day of the month. Almost all people have access to this knowledge, and with this knowledge comes the wisdom in their own lives.

The statement in many articles is that many in this world hate Americans because of our prosperity, enough to kill each and every one of us if they could and had a chance. We ask ourselves why, and we have to go all the way back to Abraham and Sarah, and the sin of disbelief. We need, and God needs, our elected president to carry on and promote peace in the place of terror. I don't know what your thoughts are about the Bible, but it commands us to stand behind our leaders of this great nation, the United States of America, and pray.END SNIP

My opinion? Yarghhhhhhhhhh!

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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:08 PM
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7. Sweet Mary Mother of God
These people make my eye twitch.

I am not a violent person, but I'd be willing to relax my personal policy of nonviolence to shake some sense into people like this.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:21 PM
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8. LOL Pathetic, isn't it?
I do like the way you talk. My hubby screeched when he read this one. It is so pathetic.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:08 AM
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10. My opinion.
:wtf: :puke: :nuke: :evilfrown: :frustrated:
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 01:17 AM
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9. God is present, bidden or unbidden, we connect as individuals
with the Divine, not as herds of beasts led to some quasi religious slaughter. The Southern Baptists are beginning to appear as a cult form of Christianity, and not the real deal.
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