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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:51 PM
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Do you feel it? Something big is brewing.
My Partner and I have been feeling this build-up for several months now. Last night our best friend said the same thing. The curious thing is that we all perceive this caudron brew from our own very different perspectives:

My partner - an introvert, self directed and instrospective: thinks this bubbling brew has personal implications

Best friend - globalist, spiritualist: thinks the bubbling cauldron indicate a large global shift.

Me - combination of the two, but the only one who is tuned into the national mess: i think it is the White House mess finally reaching the boiling point and spilling over the top.

I actually think we are all right.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:38 PM
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1. i think you are all correct as well, it is a global shift of personal
awakening causing the downfall of Bush

what could be better?
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:14 PM
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2. a lovely visualization
enlightenment that spreads throughout the planet.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:25 PM
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3. I think so too
I remember last November a shortly bit before the election having this feeling that something HUGE will happen to bring down Bush. I never saw anything but I think it's this Rove/Plame/Wilson case. ;) I think Fitzgerald is going after something else. Hopefully.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 12:13 PM
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4. how long before it reaches critical mass?
before the realization begins spreading like a virus? Surely it can't be much longer. I'm gonna send some energy out today towards this goal.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:18 PM
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5. DON'T WISH FOR THINGS TO BE BROUGHT DOWN
Vision the goodness you, we, can lift to the surface here. Put out positive reality's and thats what we will have. what you put out is what will be out there, here. peace.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:06 AM
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7. there is nowhere in my post "a wish"
for anyone to be "brought down." I am not sure how you arrived at that, but let me clarify further. What I was referring to is that metaphorically speaking, if the world is like a big stew pot, the heat seems to have been turned up lately. What my friends and I are feeling is a big shift in consciousness. The fact that the White House is now reaping what they have sown is only part of the big picture. If they happen to be "brought down" due to their own actions, that is beyond any of us to have caused.
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Dragonfly Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 04:32 PM
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10. My sense is that the "stew pot"
reference is a creatively candid realistic theme.

I also gathered that a main aspect of your original post was that you and key others in your world(s) are aware of big changes afoot which bode well for so many souls working for a better planet, representing both a brighter future and a transparent, ultimately corrective, view at what has been "ailing us."

Thanks for putting into heartfelt words what I have been feeling myself for a while.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:42 PM
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12. I agree so much
I was just posting in the coincidence thread I started, and what you say is so very true.

What used to be such a horrible time of the year for me is finally a happy time again in spite of death. Kind of making lemonade out of those lemons we get handed once in a while.

I think feelings of truth and justice coming to the fore is better than saying you want horrible bad things to happen...even though most of us wouldnt wince if certain political things DO happen to certain people hehe.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 03:49 AM
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6. I would SO rejoice in a cause for celebration!
it feels like it has been a long time coming.....
DemEx



Crosby Stills Nash Young - Long Time Gone Lyrics
It's been a long time comin'
It's goin' to be a long time gone.
And it appears to be a long,
Appears to be a long,
Appears to be a long time,
Yes, a long, long, long, long time,
Before the dawn.

Turn, turn any corner.
Hear, you must hear what the people say,
You know there's something that's goin' on around here,
That surely, surely, surely won't stand the light of day.
And it appears to be a long, (yes it does)
Appears to be a long,
Appears to be a long time,
Such a long, long, time,
Before the dawn.

Speak out, you got to speak out against the madness
You got to speak your mind,
If you dare.
But don't, no don't no try to get yourself elected.
If you do you had better cut your hair.
And it appears to be a long, (yes it does)
Appears to be a long
Appears to be a long time,
Such a long, long, long, long time,
Before the dawn.

It's been a long time comin',
It's going to be a long time gone.
But you know, the darkest hour,
Is always, always just before the dawn.
And it appears to be a long,
Appears to be a long,
Appears to be a long time,
Such a long, long, long, long time before the dawn


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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:09 AM
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8. I've felt big things brewing all year.
On the individual level, every single person that I personally know has gone/is going through major shifts/events in 2005. I believe that same major change/event energy is playing out on both the national and global level, as well.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:18 PM
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9. Oh yes
If you just sit and meditate on everything you can feel it.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:35 PM
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11. Boy, if that isn't the truth! I don't know ANYONE that isn't going
through some "interesting" times! It seems to be happening in every State I've travelled to, in every circle I encounter, as well as friends and family.

Spirit is on fire...shifting thoughts, feelings, circumstances, physical bodies.

LOL! Makes me want to go take a nap! :rofl:

:kick::kick::kick:

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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:47 PM
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13. Hey loudsue...check the Matthew thread
and if you have time , check the whole message......
(but I think I sent it to you tho..)

How ya doin???

:hi::loveya::hug:
DR
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:52 PM
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14. Hi DR!!
Yes, you did send it to me...thanks! It's remarkable how peaceful I feel when I read those things you send. :hug:

I'm doing fine....considering the context of this thread. I'm working, but there are no paychecks, and the partner that has the money and writes the paychecks is pissed off, so he's not writing them. Republicans.

I'm working on contract for a start-up company, and it's (for us contractors) kinda like being the kids in the middle of a divorce.

I love the work, and have met some nice people.

How 'bout you?? Have you been getting any more rain? How's bidness?

:loveya::hi:



:kick:

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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:35 PM
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15. Glad you enjoy...I like the stuff from Matthew...
IMO he is really very clear and there is not ego involved. He just passes on the info in a straightforward manner:)

Sounds like you are having fun:crazy: on your job..always nice to meet new people.:)

we are HOT (109º yesterday- didn't look today) some dry thunderstorms here- common whne the monsoon is starting up. Another fire close by from lightening strikes so this morin gwe were smoky with orange sky..hotter than blazes again today. Had some clouds and WINDS and a wee bit of rain. ...but at least it broke a bit of the heat.....hoping that some of hurricane Emily's moisture will help us out later this week.

As far as business...trucking along nicely...am enjoying doing the illustrations & cover art!!

Stay cool...or dry...or both!:hi:
:loveya::hug:
DR
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:14 AM
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17. 109?!
I was in Alabama today and it was around 90 today.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:46 PM
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16. 2005
2 + 5 = (7) Spiritual Awakenings

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magnolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:49 PM
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28. I see that too...
...all around me. Especially men. So many that I know are going through serious depression, questioning their lives. I see it as the darkness before the dawn.
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justsomegirl Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:21 AM
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18. As above, so below (on all levels) n/t
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:45 AM
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19. I'm going to be a pragmatist and say -
it's not necessarily a spiritual tsunami that's wreaking havoc in Washington and causing them trouble.

It's just practical matters. I believe the war in Iraq is such a mess that the power brokers have had enough. It's my understanding that there is a "shadow government" in Washington which really calls the shots.

I've read lots of denigrating news, even from an "insider" like William Kristol who loses no opportunities to lamblast the Bush administration and its "Follies in Iraq". He blasts RumsFool on a regular basis, even though Kristol is a PNAC:er and lusted for war as much as any of them. So something's going on behind the scenes.

I think if there are people behind the scenes pulling the strings, wouldn't anybody be disgusted with this crew? They can't do anything right. Bush certainly bombed on the SS mess.

I do believe, in addition, that people are waking up to the mess that these people have created. If the US survives intact, I'll be amazed. I'm seeing people get mobilized. They're starting to become more vocal about their objections.

I think we ALL want them out. The public in general, and the Insiders. But it's going to be the well-connected who will do it.

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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:18 PM
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26. Hi cliss,
Interesting you say this:
I've read lots of denigrating news, even from an "insider" like William Kristol who loses no opportunities to lamblast the Bush administration and its "Follies in Iraq". He blasts RumsFool on a regular basis, even though Kristol is a PNAC:er and lusted for war as much as any of them. So something's going on behind the scenes.

I'm so glad to hear this! Kristol is such a huge PNACer, I'm stunned he's daring to speak out against the boy king.

Bush certainly bombed on the SS mess.
Yeah, but he's still stumping for it. He's not backing down.
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:14 PM
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34. Kristol is as guilty as the rest of this wretched lot.
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 07:16 PM by NEOBuckeye
As far as I'm concerned, anyone whose name is associated with PNAC should be tried at The Hague for War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity.

Kristol wanted this bloody war -- he got it. He has no right to complain about how things aren't working out the way he had hoped.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:53 AM
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20. Yes; a good friend, his son and I were all just talking about this
we've all been having the same feelings-probably closer to those of your best friend than to those of your partner. It feels as if some kind of dam is about to break and the buildup has been ongoing for many months now...:shrug:
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:27 PM
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21. Mars
Today my mother, an astrologer, told me that Mars will be closer to the earth this August than it has been in something like 5,000 years and will appear in the sky as large as a full moon. Mom went on to say, "I am worried about this, Mars is the planet of war, and the way things are right now, this is quite frightening." I told her about the discussion my nearest and I have had and I told her about our discussion here and she agrees: There is a major shift, something big brewing, change coming.

Nancy Waterman, if you read this, could you chime in on the Mars phenomenon?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:40 PM
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22. Ah, that was two years ago
Please reset the cosmic clock to match the sky.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:51 PM
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23. two years ago?
I will tell mom about that... wonder what went wrong. I guess it is a bit of a relief, we already know that Iraq happened (is happening), we don't need more war.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:08 PM
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24. It seems an old email about the Mars event is still circulating
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:29 PM
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25. yes, i think she did say
she had gotten an email from someone about it. she doesn't practice her astrology much these days -

thanks for setting me straight on that.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:40 PM
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27. Not the closest but
on October 30th it will look as close as it was in 2003. The usual distance is 140 million miles but at that point it will be 43 million miles. In 2003 it was about 35 million. To our eye it will be as close, very noticeable in the sky. Not bigger then the Moon, but brighter then anything but Moon and Venus.

Retrograde Mars can be difficult in good times and certainly these are not the best of times. In 2003 the retrograde was in Pisces where it has some dignity as the triplicity ruler of Pisces.
This retrograde will be in Taurus, where Mars is in detriment. (Don't know if that is good because it makes Mars weaker or bad because it's more irritated) Venus rules Taurus and as sweet as she sounds she also has a role in war.

I took a quick look once and Mars will station direct (8 Taurus) in December within a degree of bush's mid-heaven. The retrograde starts October 1st(? from memory) but we could notice some effects when it reaches the degree of 8 Taurus that it will later retrograde back to.That comes in mid-August.

So...no astrologer would be too happy about this time. On the other hand it can't hurt to observe Mars when so bright and large and sort of make friends with it.
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flpeach Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:46 AM
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29. Mars WILL be closer,
But not as close as it was in 2003. Your Mom is right. I will try to find a link for you.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 09:43 AM
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30. every two years we catch up to Mars...so yeah it IS closer, but...
not as close as the phony story going around would have one believe...
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/07jul_marshoax.htm




Beware the Mars Hoax

Earth and Mars are converging for a close encounter--but not as close as some people think.

July 7, 2005: There's a rumor going around. You might have heard it at a 4th of July BBQ or family get-together. More likely you've read it on the Internet. It goes like this:

"The Red Planet is about to be spectacular."

"Earth is catching up with Mars the closest approach between the two planets in recorded history."

"On August 27th … Mars will look as large as the full moon."

And finally, "NO ONE ALIVE TODAY WILL EVER SEE THIS AGAIN."

Right: "Close Encounters" by graphic artist Duane Hilton.

Those are snippets from a widely-circulated email. Only the first sentence is true. The Red Planet is about to be spectacular. The rest is a hoax.

Here are the facts: Earth and Mars are converging for a close encounter this year on October 30th at 0319 Universal Time. Distance: 69 million kilometers. To the unaided eye, Mars will look like a bright red star, a pinprick of light, certainly not as wide as the full Moon.

Disappointed? Don't be. If Mars did come close enough to rival the Moon, its gravity would alter Earth's orbit and raise terrible tides.

Sixty-nine million km is good. At that distance, Mars shines brighter than anything else in the sky except the Sun, the Moon and Venus. The visual magnitude of Mars on Oct. 30, 2005, will be -2.3. Even inattentive sky watchers will notice it, rising at sundown and soaring overhead at midnight.

You might remember another encounter with Mars, about two years ago, on August 27, 2003. That was the closest in recorded history, by a whisker, and millions of people watched as the distance between Mars and Earth shrunk to 56 million km. This October's encounter, at 69 million km, is similar. To casual observers, Mars will seem about as bright and beautiful in 2005 as it was in 2003.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 09:46 AM
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31. But we "lap" Mars every two years so ya better check yer cosmic batteries
cause yer clock might be slowing down.:evilgrin:

:hi: SH :loveya:
DR
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:10 PM
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32. It is intensifying
Last week right before and up to the full moon. Work was really intense. It is definitely bringing up a lot of emotions for me and everyone I know. It's a bit exhausting. I am hopeful that we are almost there.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:35 PM
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33. Morea nd more folks are commenting on this
the pot is simering, if you get my drift, and now people are starting to feel it all over the place
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