A sense I had last night (dealing with the Wilson case)

[FreedomAngel82]

Last night I was watching the democratic meeting with the CIA guys and all that. While I was watching this I had the sense that very soon something big will come out with this case and it could possibly effect Bush. Does anybody else sense this? I think my grandfather gave me this information because it sensed like him.

[TNOE]

1. All I know

was that that hearing BLEW ME AWAY! In a big way - I haven't seen anything that powerful in YEARS. Don't know if you'd call it just a feeling - or finally reality setting in - but this is not going to go away!!!

[Quakerfriend]

2. I missed it. Please, do tell us more!

[TNOE]

4. You may be able to find more about it in the

General discussion forum - I'm sure there is a tape of it somewhere - but if you can and get the chance - DEFINITELY watch!! I'm telling you, these CIA guys did not pull any punches. They were pissed and let it be known that they are not going to stand for what has happened in the Plame outing. Their testimony was very damaging. It was said that there had to have been a "damage assessment" report done to assess the damage done by the outing of Plame and the fact that that report has not been released - speaks volumes! So that says to me that there has been quite a bit of damage done from this. They really slammed the * administration - especially I believe it was Larry Johnson, said they were acting like petulent children - and that there is no precedent for what needs to be done because nothing like this has ever occurred before. It was awesome. I wish I could elaborate more - but honestly - this is something you just don't want to miss. It was on CSPAN on Friday afternoon when I saw it. Maybe you could check their website.

[FreedomAngel82]

6. Oh yes

I think there has been a battle between the CIA and the Bush administration since last December when Bush purged the CIA and only put "yes" people there.

[hvn_nbr_2]

10. I think the battle began before that

I think it began well before that. The roots are certainly in the run-up to Iraq when the CIA had the info right on WMD but dimson forced them to change it and then to take the blame.

Dumbya thought he could control the CIA in the normal bureaucratic way by controlling the ostensible leaders, but compartmentalism and secrecy make that difficult. I never believed for a moment that the purged guys were completely gone. They say no one ever really leaves the agency completely. Larry Johnson and the others are probably just giving public voice to what's really happening in the agency, and they are probably closely in touch with those still there and with the purged ones too. Does anyone really believe that they're really telling the traitor's stooges what they're doing? I hope they have a plan for what to do when dimson pardons all the traitors; I rather suspect that they're thorough enough to have planned for that. It will be interesting.

[Desertrose]

3. sooner or later what goes around....

has to come around and I hope it splatters all over this administration. Would make much more of an impact (pun intended) if the crap hits the fan while they are still in office.

:popcorn:

:hi:TNOE :hug:

[TNOE]

5. Hi DR

:hi: - I'm really beginning to think Messages from Matthew is right on the money - I think these guys are going down and Sheldon Nidle's reports seem to say the same as Matthew. I know there are those of us who are visualizing this!! I see a wonderful change coming - I really do.

:hugs:
right back at you! Thanks for you!!!

[FreedomAngel82]

7. Sheldon Nidle's reports??

Do you have a link of what they say? And yes with Matthew. I sense you can trust him. He's not of this Universe I sense but he's still trust worthy. I don't sense anything negative with him.

[LaurenG]

8. Website

www.paoweb.com look for updates on Tuesday nights this is his last one. http://www.paoweb.com/sn071905.htm

[FreedomAngel82]

9. Thanks!

I'm about to go for a bit so I'll read it later this evening. :)

[Nancy Waterman]

11. link to hearing

The link to the entire hearing is on CSPAN.

http://www.cspan.org/

If anyone has the link to just Johnson's testimony, please post here. Thanks.