Anybody read John Kerry lately?

[FreedomAngel82]

I was wondering with all the talk of the 2004 election if anybody has read John Kerry's chart lately?

[emcguffie]

1. I'm replying to make the 0 go away.

It's kind of unpleasant when you ask a question and it is thoroughly ignored, or when you post an article at 10:30 a.m. and everyone ignores it, but when someone else posts the same article it makes it to the "greatest" page. :-(

I wish someone would answer my question. I often feel very persona non grata at DU.

It's probably something in my natal horoscope, I guess.... But that's not what I'm asking about. :eyes:

What I remember written about Kerry's chart was that ultimately he would do much the same thing. I find that inconceivable. Maybe what they meant was he would try to stick it out in Iraq, once we were there. There's no way he would have gone into Iraq on his own, though.

Lots of Leo in all these politicians. Clinton is a Leo, Bush has a Leo ascendant, I think Rove has a Leo ascendant....

Could the cowboy persona be perverted Leo?

[FreedomAngel82]

2. Ew I don't wanna think about Bush being a perverted Leo

[Pathwalker]

4. Maybe an immature Leo?

[yellowdawgdem]

7. making the zero go away

Sure that's an unpleasant factor on these online boards. Also, generally shy people are more sensitive to such things. Regarding your not getting an answer, I am thinking you mean abt your question regarding shrub and hitler's natal charts? It seems that analyzing natal charts is not done as freq as looking at transits. That may be because it is much more time consuming, and given to error. I guess transits are elusive too, particularly if the birthtime is off, or not known.

[Nancy Waterman]

3. I am still not sure what his birth time is

I made all my predictions based on Sag rising, which went with the birth time we were given initially. Then later another time was supposedly more accurate that gave him a Virgo Ascendant. Actually there were two Sag rising Ascendants an hour apart. These kind of changes make predicting things a nightmare.

[Trillo]

6. Are any incidents in his life well known?

I know, it seems like a stupid question, but can't his chart be rectified from those critical incidents? "critical" in the sense of "life-changing"

I'd think that getting first elected to office might be one critical occurrence. When he joined the military might have been another.

Nancy, did you ever try to rectify his birthtime?

[MissWaverly]

5. I do not do Tarot or astrology readings but

I did have a dream where Bush resigned, and I have had the strongest
feeling that John Kerry will be president, whether now or in 08 I don't
know. I keep my "Kerry Us to the White House" shirt in a special place in my closet.

[FreedomAngel82]

8. I have that feeling too

It is very strong that Kerry will be president. I think it will be soon but of course we don't know that for sure since anything can change. When I sit and meditate on Bush and how things will go for him and his term I never get anything past mid/late summer of 2006. I don't know if I'm blocking it or if I'm not supposed to know or what and I'm pretty good at sensing things. I remember shortly after the inaugration I had a flash of Bush and he was walking up some court steps. Then I had another flash of him leaving the White House going to a helicopter and he has these really sad eyes and not like now where he doesn't give a damn. A few days or so before the election I had a feeling he would be brought down by something really huge (maybe the Wilson/Plame case) and I kept seeing Kerry/Edwards flashing in my eyes and saw Kerry on the parade route and being sworn in. I had another flash earlier this year of him walking in the White House looking in rooms for someone (a female, either his daughters or an aide). I still get a strong pull towards Kerry. I'm hoping something happens.

[MissWaverly]

9. I do hope things come out okay

Please keep hoping and praying for the best, remember in my dream that
every time Bush went to speak, the wind blew all these papers towards him and they attached themselves to him and would not fall off, so many that you could no longer see him and then I heard him say, I, GWB, renounce my position as president of the United States. What these
papers were supposed to be, I don't know, but they were shaped like dollar bills and they were white.

[Quakerfriend]

10. Sounds like maybe he was covered head to toe

with "issues"!

Thx for the laugh. Several months ago a psychic prediction posted on these boards said that 'The media will turn on *co. and he will have a great fall- around June '06'. They felt that he would almost completely disappear from the public eye, but could not say whether this was brought about by disgrace while in office or something else.

If I recall correctly, they predicted that this would come about rather suddenly.:shrug:

[MissWaverly]

11. I think that the papers represented the truth

and that his lies were met with a great outpouring of people with the
truth, it's true in my dream that he look like a mummy since he was covered from head to foot with these papers.

[FreedomAngel82]

12. Interesting

That seems to go along with me. I don't get anything with Bush dealing with his presidency past mid/late summer of 2006. I think if Bush does go it'll surprise everybody including us.

[BlueIris]

13. Little late to the party with this, but my info on Kerry is:

Born: December 11, 1943
Location: Denver, CO (39n44, 104w59)
Time: 8:03 a.m.

That would make him a Sagittarius, with a Sagittarius risng sign, with his moon in Gemini. I also know that he was born on the night of a full moon, if that matters to anyone.

I don't know where I got this, it's been in my files for forever (almost two years). If it matter, when I've Googled, I've gotten a lot of hits for known, reputable astrology sites that are also using this info on which to base their readings of his chart. I have to say that I don't particularly care for the various astrological analyses for Kerry that I've seen online. I just don't feel like anyone's getting it right, and astrologers, even those professing love for the man, are allowing too much of their own opinions about our social and governmental situation to color their assesment about his chart and the significants of its features. Maybe someone here can do a better job.

[BlueIris]

14. A couple of superficial things I can put out there:

My little analysis places Jupiter in his eigth house, which can be read as a sign of longevity. That heartens me, because I continue to read bizarro things from psychics and mediums of, in my opinion, questionable repute, stating that Kerry may not lead a long life. I've also read claims that the president who takes office after Bush will die while in the White House. I still have a strong feeling that Kerry will be this president, so I don't like people blathering about Kerry's putative early death, which I personally see no indication of in his chart. I also note that Saturn rests in his seventh house, which I think accounts for the public and media's frequent (mis)perception of Kerry's outward appearance as austere, restrained, and unemotional.

[FreedomAngel82]

20. I agree

When I sit and sense of Kerry I don't get an early death with him at all. I also think he will be a president. It's a very strong feeling. Of course I could be biased, but this doesn't feel like it. I can usually tell a difference.

[BlueIris]

21. Oh, good. Glad to see I'm not the only one

who sees neither early literal or political death for him.

[BlueIris]

15. Adendum to previous data:

Kerry was actually born in Fitzsimons, CO (US), 104w48, 39n45. (!)

[robertarctor]

16. Just ran Kerry's chart and a secondary progression ...

... set at the U.S. Capitol. It's pretty interesting, from a Gaquelin standpoint: Sun at 21 Aquarius exactly conjunct the ascendant; Jupiter directly opposite, almost exactly conjunct the descendant; a wide Uranus-Vesta-Mars stellium (4-10 Gemini) conjunct the IC, along with a Moon-Chron conjunction in the 7th house, in Virgo.

[BlueIris]

17. Could you post more about that last part (Moon/Chrion, 7th, Virgo)?

What do you think the significance of that is?

[robertarctor]

18. OK

Moon (Kerry's shadow side) conjunct Chiron (the wounded healer) in his seventh house (not just partnerships, but open enemies). It's at 14 Virgo.

He's also got Pluto conjunct his North Node (Vedic, Rahu) in his sixth house. At 16-17 Leo.

[saracat]

19. Could you explain in laymans terms what that means?

I am very interested. Thank you!