A prediction......

[winyanstaz]

I believe there will at least one large earthquake on the coast of the Americas in about one week...a little more or less....around Mexico area or further south...and then a week later..one up here higher along the coast...most likely in the California area.
I am not so sure about the third one around alaska area but that is due as well.
It also takes about five to seven days for quakes to be in WA state after an alaskan one or one in california.
It is not that I have had a vision or anything.
It is that I have been noticing what seems to be a pattern for some time now.
Whenever there is a large earthquake on the far side of the rim of fire...about a week more or less later we have the first on our side. It takes about another week to show up further north.
The one in Alaska would also be either in the first week or the third.
I believe closer to the third as the larges quake on the far side of the rim was in the south...meaning the southern area of the Americas would be next in the chain.
Now I have stuck my neck out...I will have to keep a close watch.

[hermetic]

1. Are you referring to

the quake in the Solomon Islands? I just heard that on the radio. It was big but so far no casualties reported.

Let's all pray then that if it happens, the results will be the same. No casualties.

[winyanstaz]

3. yes, that is the one that made me think about posting....

I have been noticing the time lags are about a week more or less between one side of the ring to the other...or from the bottom to the top or vica verca.
I just watched tonight and saw that turkey along with two other middle eastern countries and greece as well all just had earthquakes within a few minutes of each other. They were not all that big for the most part...but they sure happened fast..one right after the other so there must be one big fault running through there as well.

[Fire Walk With Me]

2. Oh yeah, there has been plenty of activity along the ring.

My senses have been wonky since Christmas Day as I've been offloading my earliest trauma, so I can't add any predictions. I'm not going double-wonky as I usually do just before a quake but who knows. Learning to differentiate external anxiety from internal is still difficult for me.

I do know that living in Los Angeles will eventually prove deadly. Anyone could tell you that, however.

My current biggest worry is that people, not understanding the new energy, will continue to create the same old crap, supercharged. Karen Bishop said in her Jan. 1 Wings post that there will be "bumps" in the old world this year, and that is probably a very good perspective to keep.

[winyanstaz]

4. I also feel a bit "wonkers" just before quakes that are close by happen....

I would like to see a center where psychics can call in and they could map the areas that are setting peoples wonkyness off :P and see how well that matches with the quakes.

[Fire Walk With Me]

5. No time, no distance.

My perceptions of increasing energetic pressure relate more to the energy expended/damage done to people than to distance. The deadly tsunami in the mid 2000s was also right next to another 8.0 or so, IIRC. (The negativity during BushCo was pretty damn oppressive, continuously.)

So: I myself am limited to perceiving significant events, mostly when I go looking for them, or when they absolutely cannot be avoided. I have missed sensing many, and not mentioned others (due to second-guessing myself. I hope to not have opportunity to hone my skills in this area, and now spend time praying for the healing of any impending large-energy events.).

[Sienna86]

6. Thursday earthquake

Just read there was a minor quake in Fremont, CA late this morning.

[rosesaylavee]

7. 5.8 in Baja

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/30/baja-earthquake-californi_n_407584.html

[rosesaylavee]

8. 4.1 in Palo Alto

http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/show_story.php?id=15176

[Cleita]

9. Thanks for reminding me to keep working at earthquake proofing my

home. I still have a ways to go.

[Fire Walk With Me]

10. Can't placing such attention upon such things actually lend them energy?

This is why I do not much wish to discuss such events, especially where I currently reside :crazy:

[winyanstaz]

13. To see something that is there is not wrong nor giving energy.

To be giving it energy I would have to be focusing my Intent and Will for it to happen.
To ignore the approaching blizzard will not stop the snow
To weather-work to try to stop the snow.....we would have to be focusing our Intent and Will. (if you must try to practice weather-working remember it will be YOUR karma if it gets out of hand or harms anyone..just a note of caution there ;)....but it harms none to practice on a few tiny clouds now and again ;))
When you start seeing thought-forms you will see that they have different shapes. One with Will and Intent is like a flash of intense energy, moving fast and directly there. To observe is only seeing the energy already there.
If ignoring the bad would make it go away or stop...then we wouldn't be in the political and economical mess we are in today. Heaven knows a lot of American taxpayers have tried very hard to ignore the mess we are in or what is being done to our Nation.
I do not wish this to happen, but I shall not ignore what is there.
I have noticed these patterns in earthquakes for several years now.
An earthquake in Mexico means another one about a week more or less..later in California. It is then about another week and I then learn of one here in WA.
And my thought is..if it is indeed the pattern..and because of natural earth changes it has usually only a small fluctuation in the pattern..(1 or 2 days).....we can still be aware and maybe save some lives.
I believe Science has not seen a pattern because it is looking for an exact number but a human can make adjustments once they become aware of it..and perhaps science can allow for that fluctuation as well if it is indeed the case.
The Ring of Fire is indeed a large circle..and we are all connected so it would seem logical to me and make sense that the movements would travel on around the ring.

[Fire Walk With Me]

18. Whatever I turn attention upon, increases. "Energy follows thought." -Carl Jung

I stay away from thought forms unless doing healing work. Very risky for me. I tend to stay in empathic perception and third eye work (which is probably why I tire so quickly). When I sense a quake, it's because of energetic tension. The big ones are sometimes difficult to miss. (These days, I'm doing deep energy work upon myself, and am unable to pay attention to external energy, so no quake predictions for a while.)

[winyanstaz]

19. Because we turn attention on something and see it...

does mean that a certain small amount of energy is involved..yes, of course.....
But..
That does not mean that the energy used to see something necessarily FEEDS what is being observed.
This is only my own observations..but I believe that I can see something for what it is...and while energy is involved in seeing..it does not follow that I dont have control over my energy as to if it feeds it or not.
If I am FOR something..then my Intent is to give it energy.
If I am only obverving..then my energy used is for observing.
If I am not for what I see...then my energy is not given to what I see but rather it can be used to CHANGE what I see.
See what I am trying to convey?
We are co-creators...but we do have both power and control.
"I am a Shaman...I have the power...to create..
or to distroy." (words from a very powerful Shaman friend of mine...it is his power song)
:)

[Fire Walk With Me]

20. Yes.

But...this is a publicly viewed forum. If anyone here, especially anyone with a track record, makes a statement about the future, especially a highly charged future event, then anyone who views it, who is not in control of their energetic makeup, will add fear, even subconsciously. This is why I do not like to discuss "negative", destructive events, except to gain support in averting them by calling them what they are (BushCo, in general).

We have a supreme responsibility here. Thoughts are now things. I know of at least one highly negative text stating that they have been waiting for this era, in order to be able to cause "trouble".

Anything enough people agree upon, read: put energy into, will manifest. Karen Bishop states that this year there will be "bumps" felt by those already outside our society. I do not wish to over-react, but there it is. Edit: I am guilty of having done so in the past, making specific general predictions regarding the ring, and wish that I hadn't.

[winyanstaz]

21. You are, of course, free to believe as you will.

To agree upon something and to give it energy..is not the same as to observe something. :)
Please dont be writing me and asking me to stop doing what I believe I am here to do.
We each can do what we think is best.
peace...

[Fire Walk With Me]

22. Okay, I'll ignore them, and also continue working to heal the Ring energies.

[winyanstaz]

23. I do think working on healing the planet is good however :)

:)

Here is a poem/song for you about that very thing.(healing the planet)

This is called:

Broken Earth.

Earth my heart is weeping
It's raining all around.
Please let the clouds
roll down the hill
Hide the garbage on the ground.
Earth my eyes are raining..
Sorrow's coming down.
The Children have forgotten.
Sacred is the ground.

For they will breath the poison air
where Eagles cannot fly.
And they will walk on broken earth..
and watch the flowers die.
Clean water they will never see..
or hear the Raven's cry.
and all the earth will weep with me..
when Mother Earth has died.

The body of our mother.
The Earth that gave us birth..
Lady.. I am weeping for
the children of the earth.
Oh say it's not to late to me..
that we can make things right.
It's not too late to turn around..
no one needs to cry..
and we will breath the cool clean air
where eagle's fly and we'll know..
We wont walk on broken earth..
We'll watch the flowers grow.
No more eyes are raining..
and sunshines coming down.
The Children have remembered..
Sacred is the ground.



It took a long time for me to be able to sing this song without crying like a baby. :)

There is a speaking part in the middle of this song..
It goes...

"I went camping the other day and there was not a place left on that beautiful mountain side... where you could set a little child down without them walking on the broken glass, cigarette butts, empty shot gun shells and dirty diapers.
The Earth is our Mother and we MUST take care of her.
She is alive and aware of us and we must become aware of her.
Fight for this planet Children of the Earth...because you are fighting for your life.
We are the ones we have been waiting for and the time is now."

This speaking part tends to change sometimes..depending on how intense I am feeling at the time. :)

This is one that will be on our new album.

[Delphinus]

29. Beautiful song, winyanstaz.

Touching, true ... moving. Thank you.

[winyanstaz]

51. Thank you Delphinus :)

I hope to have one of my web sites up and running within a month. We are starting on it monday. That one will be metaphysical rock and spiritual music only.
I will be putting all our songs on line (right now only one album is done) and metaphysical music from other bands as well. (we have two of them so far)...and with 35 original songs to go plus a pagan chants album..:) I shall indeed be busy for a while.
When it's up and running you can go there and hear the music :) and I hope you enjoy the songs.

[Celebration]

24. think of it like weather forecasting

It helps people to prepare for a hurricane. Best not to ignore hurricanes on the theory that it gets people scared and feeds negative energy.

I'd rather have the forecast.

If there is a causal relationship like this among earthquakes on the rim of fire, I actually think it is pretty important to make the forecasts first in a public forum of some sort. Science values data which show a predictive relationship. It could cause some people to perk up a bit.

Just my take on it.

:)

[Proud_Lefty]

11. Just had a 6.5 quake in northern California

Pretty close in your prediction. :)

[winyanstaz]

12. yup..right on time...now the next one will be about another week.

It will take aprox (give or take a day or two.) to travel to Wa state area..could be oregon but I feel more likely it will be WA.
Also we need to keep an eye on Alaska now.

[catzies]

14. I tried to respond to this and lost my connection (Merc Rx I guess)

So what I posted didn't go through but what I tried to say was that I read thyis thread earlier in the week and it ws the first thing I thought of when I saw the quake and aftershocks.

I live in So. Cal. FWIW.

[winyanstaz]

15. just to clairify a couple of things...

I dont know if there is anyway to predict which way/direction around the Ring of Fire the energy will travel.
I dont think it works for all the quakes but it is the ones 5. and bigger that I noticed that seem to be taking that amount of time.
I am thinking the smaller ones could be pre-cursers to the main energy movement and/or after-shocks from a large movement.

[Cleita]

16. Ferndale earthquake is pretty much on target with one of your predictions.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/09/BALS1BG3RV.DTL

:thumbsup:

[winyanstaz]

17. I think it will be on time and in WA state next big one. (over 5. and up)

if it follows the same pattern...and in around 7 days (1-2 more or less.
I think the quakes themselves are what are changing the delays sometimes up to two days usually..as the ground has shifted in places so the energy must go the path of the least resistance.
I believe there may be a few smaller ones first in oregon..then on up to WA all within this 7 day window..
The only reason I believe WA will get the larger quake as it appears to me that we here in WA state have more quakes due to the ground being more fractured here.
I could be wrong and oregon have the bigger one but time will tell.

[icymist]

25. It seems that there are >5 quakes on the Pacific rim everyday.

Check out this map. It's in real time. Just refresh the page for updates. Also, I couldn't help notice that little Puerto Rico is rocking and rolling these days.

Interesting theory, though.

[catzies]

27. Good catch about Puerto Rico...Haiti had a 7.0 earlier w/big aftershocks

:wow:

I like this one because of the visual impact:

http://www.iris.edu/seismon/

[OneGrassRoot]

26. Haiti :(

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7449335

[winyanstaz]

28. This would be a good project for a group sending of healing energies....

They are going to need a lot of help.
I shall do what I can starting now and taking time every day for a while....but perhaps we should try to set a certain time..like say..every night as we go to sleep? And every morning when we wake up?
Just ideas...if anyone has any ideas on this I would love to hear them :)

Haiti is on a different plate isnt it? I have not paid much attention to that side of the earth regarding quakes...

[OneGrassRoot]

30. That RSOE site also says...

The Bahamas was hit by a 6.1 quake yesterday.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php

Yes, it's on a different fault. The Oceanic fault.

Goodness.....

I would definitely be interested in working on this with you and others, winyanstaz. :)

I LOVE your newest song, btw. :hug:

[winyanstaz]

33. ty One Grass Root :)

I was starting to wonder if anyone found it or heard it yet. :)

I would really like to find a way to put music on line (would have to be a free place to post it) so that everyone could hear the songs but looks like that will have to wait until later this summer when the site should be up.

As to a group working...right now as the people in Haiti need help right now..I think just before we go to sleep at night and then again as we awaken would be good on an individual basis...
but my oldest son suggested we all get on a live chat site or messenger where we can hook up in a conference call and do it that way...
I am open to other ideas as well and hoping for suggestions?

[Blue_Roses]

31. I would love to work with you on this...

it's very sad.

[winyanstaz]

34. Yes and I think a good group visulization would be a great way to start

right away.
I am suggesting as there is no time to waste...that we each vizulise in our own way...a large blanket of healing energy and love over Haiti that people can call upon..can make it a blanket of White Light.
That is just my thought...but again..this needs to be a group effort so I will start a thread just for that?

[Fire Walk With Me]

32. I don't know if my recent over-reactions and wonkyness are correlated to the Haiti event or not.

I don't have a true handle upon what an event feels like, or when it will occur. I have been lucky to not have second-guessed when I've been correct. I have in the past second-guessed myself out of being correct.

I did not specifically pick out the Haiti event. I am very near exhaustion from releasing my deepest negativities and fears, as stated in posts this week...I'll take it that the -overall- process of the release of negativity is related to this, as some persons and areas have more than others.

Haiti (and parts of Africa) has not begun to see the worst of it's problems made manifest. Prayer is apropos for those living and dead. And as always, charity is the blessed outcome of such tragedy. Look for an increase in charity in 2010.

I'm glad that others are interested in praying to heal earthquakes not yet ripe :hi: All prayers for those suffering in Haiti...

[winyanstaz]

35. I believe you are correct in your own self analysis there :)

and on the right path.:)

[Fire Walk With Me]

49. Co-Creation is becoming even more powerful

and I am using it to work upon myself and to heal others. Quickly. It is beginning to feel like Home.

[winyanstaz]

36. The window is here........

a window of around 5 days for a large quake around 5.0 and above to be felt higher up the west coast of North America if my first theory is still correct.
A second large quake on the other plate on the west either north or south of Haiti in a week or so would mean that it holds true for all the larger plates..
If it does..then that would mean just a shorter time range for smaller plates.

[winyanstaz]

37. I hope everyone got to see this one...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7453127


That is bad news indeed.....this could be only a beginning on those plates of a number of large quakes...

[Cleita]

38. Our local nuclear plant, El Diablo, is built to withstand a

Richter scale of 7.5.

[icymist]

39. How about if everyone here got together on the new moon, 11:15 pacific time?

Tomorrow, Thursday Jan. 14, 2010. Great time and place for doing this.

[winyanstaz]

40. I will try to be here....

I cannot promise as I am usually making lunch for my son around that time....but I will try. :)

[icymist]

41. That's 11:15 pm by the way. n/t

[icymist]

42. Anyone who can't be here at 11:15 pm, pacific time just do your ritual that day.

If it's before that time, the moons' power will pick it up. This is sympathetic magic as portrayed by Dion Fortune in her novel Moon Magic. This is a great author for anyone wanting to read up about this type of magic and the early works of the Golden Dawn.

[winyanstaz]

45. ok thanks :)

[Kind of Blue]

43. I will join you then, Icymist.

And get family members to do so, as well. Our Haitian community here is nervous and very scared.

[OneGrassRoot]

44. Me, too.....

:grouphug:

[Kind of Blue]

46. Done. Thanks, Icymist. n/t

[catzies]

47. Will try. Sending healing thoughts to Haiti today and as a Californian

I feel for everyone everywhere who is susceptible to seismic shiftings.

:grouphug:

[BlueIris]

48. Same. (And welcome, catzies!)

My apologies if you are not new here and are a regular with a name change, but I don't recall seeing you 'round these parts, so I thought I should 'hail' you.

[catzies]

50. Thanks....I read more than I post, but I've been here awhile

:hug:

[winyanstaz]

52. Well there have been a few quakes further north along the west coast here

in America and a few in Alaska..
There also was a 4.3 right off the coast of oregon...right in the time window Of one week (1-2 days more or less...but not a 5. or larger.
There is also one around the same size just happened about an hour ago east of Seattle.
Maybe it just peckered out...I will have to just obverve another one and see if it follows on around or not.
The point of my post is to point out that there was a quake..exactly around the area it should have been and at the time it should have been if the theory is correct.
Not that the last one was as big as I thought it would be..but it was there.
So..now I shall just have to keep on watching and see if it does it again.
IF this theory is correct...then within a week (1-2 days more or less) there will be another large quake on the far rim of the Ring of Fire...right around the Japan area.

[rumpel]

53. Yellowstone has been shaking...

small but not so usual... :(

[winyanstaz]

54. I saw in the news last night there are some big movements

off Japan.. 5.8...also the far tips of the Alaskan islands are moving.
I think I will be keeping a close eye on the Ring for the next week.