a post about ghosts...

[winyanstaz]

As a small child I spent almost six years in a haunted house...with one very nasty ghost and two others that were his victims while they were all still alive.
That was a time of many lessons for me.
I just thought this would be a good time to chat a little bit about ghosts :)
One of the main ways to tell if you have a real ghost is that you will experience sudden icy cold areas. It's a lot like what you feel if you were to walk into a frozen food locker at the corner butcher store.
Watch your animals and they will tell you as well.
Feeling a great deal of negativity in an area can also be caused by a ghost but is not always the reason you will feel this as it can be caused by other things. Things like clouds/mists of negative energy that has accumulated or was left in the area can be why you feel negative about a place as well as you may just be feeling the flow of chi.
Chi moving in too fast/straight a line can cause this feeling. To deal with this you will need to read up on feng shui.
Noises, things moving etc can also be caused by a ghost but there can be other causes as well such as energy flows.
But what is a ghost? Is it uncle fred still hanging around?
Nope it is not.
What it is, is the "ghost"/corpse of uncle fred's astral body.
For every plane..we have a body or "vehicle" or principle...for our consciousness/soul/self to get around that plane on.
We are all familiar with the physical body and plane and also to some extent we are all familiar with the astral/dreaming plane and our astral dreaming body (you know..the one you go traveling in while on the inner planes every time you sleep.)
When we die... we ourselves travel onward and are helped to the plane of the sleepers (the plane of Spirit/throat chakra level) by older souls/masters and our departed loved ones on the inner planes.
There we rest and "shed" all we are entitled to shed of our dross and negativity and we awaken to the level of the inner planes (our true home) that we are vibrating at...until such time as we are drawn back to a re-birth by our own desires and yearning for more lessons.
This is why it is not good to cry and weep and call for the departed as they will have a harder time doing what they need to be doing.
The soul will struggle instead of resting and sometimes even comes partly out of its soul slumber because of the cries and pleadings of it's loved ones left behind and the soul is greatly troubled by the cries of the loved ones still on the physical plane. It is best for their progress to let them rest.
You will see them again.
When we leave our bodies at death..the astral cord breaks and each vehicle/body for each plane is discarded by the soul.
We do not HAVE a soul..we ARE souls. Sparks of the Divine/attributes of the One.
As the soul discards each vehicle..they soon will dissolve back into the energy of the universe.
However while the physical body can disintegrate at a fairly rapid pace..it can take much longer for the astral dreaming body to dissipate and if the dying soul had "unfinished" business or was under a great deal of stress...it can animate the corpse of the astral dreaming body with that energy and it will hang around for a much longer time and repeat endlessly the actions etc of what ever it was that the departing soul had on it's mind.
Sometimes the astral/dreaming body does not realize it is dead. In that case..simply gently explaining this can help them move on.
Sometimes the astral corpse/ghost learns to get more energy off people still alive on the physical plane and this it usually does by scaring them and using that energy to keep themselves animated.
They (the corpse/ghost) has no real power of their own. They really do have to mind someone when they are sent away...however...and this is the tricky part.
If the one chasing them off is full of fear and negativity...they simply do not have the positive spiritual energy necessary to enforce their command for the ghost to leave. So therefor, an entity that does not want to leave..will simply try harder to frighten a person in order that that person cannot have the faith/one pointed belief that they have the power to kick them out of an area.
All magic works the way we BELIEVE IN IT. If you don't believe in magic..of course it will not work for you. It is working by not working as that is what you believe.
However, Spirit does not expect us to walk right out and be able to move mountains. We are given lessons along the way to strengthen our faith in ourselves and in Spirit as we grow.
One day...you will say to a mountain...mountain go into the sea and it shall be so. However by then you will be one with the One that put the mountain there in the first place and will know if it should move or not. (sorry I forget who said this first although I do believe something similar is found in the bible.)
Although there are other entities that have always shared this planet with us that can be harmful to us (they are not evil...just simply not human and yes we do have power over them as well).....ghosts themselves are not something we truly need to be frightened of.
Psychics have seen little wisps of lavender tinted lights in graveyards which are also just the astral/dreaming bodies slowly dissipating over the years.

[Kind of Blue]

1. I love your posts, Winyanstaz. They're

so gentle on the mind and elucidating at the same time.

I've always wondered about those partying ghosts that I encountered in San Francisco. Certainly it was in my astral form. I was never sure if they knew they were dead or just constantly repeating a portion of life they really really enjoyed, or both - how boring, though. This post sheds some light on them and I guess my ghostly form, as well :) Thank you.

[winyanstaz]

5. and thank you....

I really do appreciate knowing if someone finds a post interesting.
I have a few ghost stories and later may share some...just for fun :)

[Celebration]

2. Interesting, THANKS

:hi:

[winyanstaz]

6. Your very welcome :)

[rosesaylavee]

3. I grew up with ghosts and/or whatever that was that we shared our house with

and enjoyed reading the above. One of the manifestations in our house was something that liked to push people off beds while they were sleeping... this is our best story as we just recently, in the last year or so realized there were three instances of this experience over two decades ago and the three of us hadn't shared it together until two Christmases ago. (So take that naysayers, nyah nyah nyah :)) Does that figure into your thoughts on ghosts? This manifestation would happen in the middle of the night while the person would be sleeping and would wake up in 'transit' across the sheets... which of course would cause the adrenaline to flow a bit. But no build up of fear to begin with... We had other unexplained manifestations but this was the most physical and only happened in one room of the house.

[winyanstaz]

4. oh yes..they can move things...and sometimes people...

but the ones that powerful are rare.

[rosesaylavee]

9. And whoever that was was just one of the entities there...

It was a rare place and strangely, tho it scared a lot of us living there at the time, we all miss it.

After we had left - our mother sold the place in 1986 - we discovered that a few of us had had the same recurring dream about an inner room emanating from the same wall area in the living room (where there was no doorway). In my dreams it was either a step down into an expanded living room containing all white furniture with a baby grand (not at all related to my mother's decor) and a cave with an older native american in it. Historically the neighborhood was originally a native american burial ground but as far as we could find out, no one else was having the manifestations we were having . We were the third owners of the house which was built in the 20's and after we moved there were new owners every other year. And the previous owner to our purchasing didn't know what we were talking about when we asked or so they said. We figured no one else had an appreciation for odd happenings like we did. Needless to say we found Poltergeist to be very disappointing and I remember actually hoping to find some similarities when I saw that movie.

[winyanstaz]

10. You brought up a very important point in your post there :)

What you experienced may well have been because of previous use of that land.
There are power spots on the earth that are and were used as entrance points for astral travel.
It sounds like you had one under your house.
If you had been more aware at the time you may have meet a medicine man that perhaps would have taught you.
It is not too late to try to astral project back there. Just try thinking about going back there every night for a month or so as you are falling asleep.
That could well end up being your power spot if he will accept you.

[rosesaylavee]

12. Will give it a go and see what happens

Am seeing my siblings for post Christmas get-together this weekend - may find out other memories about the 'House' someone's been holding onto. :)

[rumpel]

7. I totally appreciate all you said

I have experienced them, too. It was not because the house was haunted, though. I just see, hear or feel them.
At some point in the mid 20's I decided I am going to ignore that part, because it would give me goosebumps afterwards. And yet, I still see them occasionally.

[winyanstaz]

8. The astral dreaming plane is all right here..same as the physical plane is...

And since the astral dreaming plane is the closest in vibration rate to the physical plane..we can see somewhat on/into the Astral plane while still on the physical..because of the third eye.
Every one of the five senses we have on the physical plane, we also have on the astral/dreaming plane as well. :)
What this means is...sometimes as we are waking in consciousness we can get glimpses of things on the inner planes..while we ourselves are still in the physical body.
This has been the cause of many a diagnoses of mental illness in the past by well meaning doctors that simply don't see or are no where near waking up in consciousness and so have never experienced a metaphysical experience in their lives.
It can also be distressing for some to suddenly see some character walking past or doing something and then see them continue on through a wall or simply disappear or whatever.
Some people freak out..some lose their minds altogether....some shut down their Seeing or other spiritual gifts just because they don't like it.
Some learn to deal with it and control it at least to some extent....
Those on the astral plane are here with us.........walking around/through/beside us all the time. We are all occupying the same space but at different vibration rates and so normally we are not aware of each other.
(The Kingdom is at hand)..was how one enlightened being put it so well. :)
It's when those vibration rates sometimes overlap that we have experiences and lessons and little glimpses of something "more."
However..as the awesome energy beings that we are...we need awesome lessons. :)

[rumpel]

11. What do you think of the concept of those ghosts

that do specifically come to you?
I think I have encounters of more of those than those that are specific to localities. However this would mean that there is conscious communication between both fields, and then, that they have better control and/or knowledge/awareness of the dimensions than we do?
When I used to draw or paint, sometimes they would faintly appear in the drawing, usually in the background of a theme. Someone else would notice them. People like my great grandfather, whom I have never met or even seen in pictures, would appear, and we would say, he is probably telling me that he here and he is watching over me. :)

[winyanstaz]

13. the planes are not so much as seperated.. as they shade into each other....

I had to give up bartending years ago because I found it too disturbing to see things jumping from one drunks head to sit in another.
I usually did not see a form but saw a dark "whisp" or shadow that would move.
What we call earth-bound (entities that are not willing to pass or usually their astral corpses)spirits like to hang around bars where people are easily "possessed" and they can experience the physical world for a while.
Sometimes we also have loved ones that want to stay close by. I call them guardian angels and if you have a large M on either of the palms of your hand...you have one.

[Fire Walk With Me]

14. As an alcoholic/drug lover and lower companion seeker

I've had to learn some cleansing techniques. My favorite shamanistic practice is to visualize inhaling green light through the nostrils, down the two channels alongside the spine to the base, then on the exhale, visualize black smoke rising up the center channel and out the top of the head.

I like what you've said about magic being only as powerful as the practitioner. :hi:

(The house I grew up in had a vortex or something at the bottom of the basement stairs. I was always frightened of that area...and this sense did not diminish over the years. Once, a kitten I was attempting to adopt completely balked at going into the house, through the door at the top of those stairs. Utterly freaked out. Had to take the poor thing back. :cry:)

[winyanstaz]

17. I like that visulization :) that would work very well.

[Fire Walk With Me]

19. Definitely.

I did not "create" it; I learned it, to give credit to those who deserve it.

[Kind of Blue]

15. Well, thanks again.

What do you think of this, Winyanstaz? This afternoon, I took a real quick nap - less than 30 minutes - before going back to work. I had a dream - kind of like a nightmare though. Upon falling out, I was immediately with 2 women on a bright sunny day. They were familiar but I do not know them in real life. We were at the older of the two's home that I'd never visited before. They decided to run out to get some snacks. I knew that I was dreaming and went with the flow.

I'm looking around the place lost in thoughts about the space and how great it would be for parties. I was drinking a cool glass of something when all of a sudden, a tall, slim elderly woman kind of gathered from air particles into being, like sand taking shape when tossed about in a dust storm, and she headed gleefully to open a closet door. I could see her very happy to get something out of that closet. I stood there watching, frightened to death when she sensed me, turned around and came at me, very angry that I was there. I willed myself to wake up before she could hit me.

I hardly ever have dreams of ghosts, so your writing of the different 'vehicle' bodies, planes shading into other really helps put some of these dream experiences of mine in perspective.

[winyanstaz]

16. When we know we are dreaming/lucid dreaming...we have such awesome power....

That it will blow your mind :)
It helps to know about it though so we can use it when we need to.
For example:

We can channel chi right out the palms of our hands...just like in the movies....:)
We can also send out a blast of energy through any of our main energy centers/chakras. Use the chakras that corresponds with the thing you wish to do.
We can change our size. Yup..or shrink the other one down :)
I tried that once when a very rabid and angry large dog was after me on the dream plane..but I knew I was dreaming..and just like in the Harry Potter movie..I said "Rediculousa!" and turned that rabid huge dog into a teeny tiny pup. :) yup..it will really work! I thought that was way cool.
We can decide any place we want to is "down"...you can decide which way gravity is :)...you could have walked up the wall, across the ceiling and left..or even just passed through the "walls".
One of my favorite is to throw love :) hahhahaaa..it is just so amazing what happens when you throw love at the bad guys. heheheeh,,
I have had them break down and cry...or run screaming away like I was trying to harm them or something.....just because I tossed a little love their way :)
I think you may have seen the control freak that is in your house. I thought it was the man as he is a very nasty fellow and I saw him but I didn't see her. I think it is her causing the trouble and you saw her.
Reason I think it is her is she got mad when she saw you were aware of her.
Don't be afraid of her. She really has no power over you and you do have power over her.
Why do you have the power and she does not?

It is simple.
The darkness CANNOT stand before the Light.

[Kind of Blue]

18. Winyanstaz, I'm just a little spooked.

Are you sure you are saying you sensed a control freak in my house, Kind of Blue? The dream-ghost woman was disturbing and I do believe that I indeed surprised this person - surprised myself because I definitely knew that I was dreaming and seeing her just didn't compute.

If you really did sense this then it may explain some rather somber turn of events in my life this week and I will start absorbing and releasing more love instead of worry and fear.

No matter what, I thank you again, Dear Girl, for the good advice :hug:

on edit: I went to talk to my husband about this. He says when I told him the dream, he immediately thought of his late grandmother because the description fit. But he didn't tell me this until I told him of your response. She lived with his family for years. She died when she was over 100 and was not a nice lady at all from the stories I've heard over the years. I'm talking mean, conniving and treacherous but my husband was her favorite grandchild. My husband says that he's been meaning to get rid of her stuff this week after I told him the dream, but didn't want to alarm me because I love her beautiful yellow chair so much. Well, I'm going to let it go :rofl: and send the old girl some love.

Interesting, don't you think?

[winyanstaz]

20. I think you are on the right track...