Spiritual Wolves....

[Desertrose]

This is excerpted from a friend's latest newsletter. I'll link to her site. She is a really cool lady...keep hoping to make it on one of her trips someday.:)

This is about those who use their spiritual knowledge and power in a way that takes advantage....
http://www.kachina.net/~alunajoy/2005july-aug.html

In the 20's and the 30s, what was once kept hidden in mystery schools was beginning to be released. Many earthbound teachers made available to the masses some of these spiritual truths. In the 60's, some of these truths began to take form in the material world as an age of freedom; an age of love and peace, etc…. This "New Age" movement was to bring forth divinity and mastery within each person. It was to set humanity free from its limitations of consciousness.

In the mid 80's, something shifted in our original plan that we didn't like to see. What we started so many years ago had fallen far away from the original vision. The movement had begun to imprison devout seekers through unscrupulous spiritual wolves. Unfortunately this movement has become a safe haven for those who would want to control, limit and deceive you. Because of this breakdown of the original vision, we have had other meetings to decide what can be done about this. It is time for plan B.
Today, we hope that what we share with you, will help you flush the spiritual wolves out from this movement and your life, so that you can take back your spiritual power and take charge of your destiny. We would like to give you some guidelines, so you can discern which spiritual teachers are worthy of your trust and clear out others that are not. We hope to help you discover which ones are the spiritual wolves in sheep's clothing. Plan B not only helps you take your rightful spiritual power back, but also deepens the original vision beyond what we first thought possible. With plan B, you will not only be informed and wise about the light, but you will also be savvy as to how the darkness can deceive you by using it. In their convoluted deceptions, you will become stronger.

Unfortunately, a majority of the New Age movement has become just like the rest of the world; an industry and a money making machine that has no real compassion or caring for the flock. We want to say right here and now that it's not wrong to make money if you have a gift or calling to share with the world. It is the world and the times that you live in. What we are talking about are those that use your trust, purity, and your unconditional innocence, not as a power to be reckoned with, but as a weakness to be abused and taken advantage of.

First . . . Spiritual wolves know the unconscious program called "It is not spiritual to disagree with spiritual teachings or a teacher". In your world, you say it is "ALL IS GOOD". Unfortunately, the wolves in the flock know this about this program. They know that they can do what they want to, and you will stand by and pretend to radiate light when inside you are feeling something is really wrong. They know that you will not stand up to them, because you will be instantly shunned by your spiritual family for speaking out, and for "rocking the boat". They will say you are judgmental, and not unconditionally loving. Didn't I (Jeshua), we (the Ascended Masters) show you many examples of how to stand up to injustices? Did I/we ever say it is all good? You are part of this collective and what you do within this collective is how the world will shape itself. If you can see something as false, it is your job, your destiny, to turn your back on it and starve the vital energy source right from its hungry mouth. You might even feel the need to stand up and strip away the illusions for all to see. It will be your choice which way you go.

lots more...

We want you to know that there is no greater teacher than yourself, but also remember that you do learn from your friends and comrades on the path. There are a multitude of great teachers out in the world with your best interest in mind. Supporting these ones is supporting truth. Having like minded souls to help you remember is so vitally important and gives one a sense of community.


Our last thought is also a reminder . . . remember you are your own best teacher . . . but if you do reach for help outside yourself, as you often do, please be discerning as to whom you let in and what truth you accept as your own. Don't stay somewhere you have outgrown. Don't be blinded by a wolf in sheep's clothing, or fall for the smoke and mirrors trick. Don't be afraid to stand up to the wolves. You will be surprised how quickly they deflate when you shine the light of truth on illusion. Their power was stolen from you and others, and is not authentic. With accelerating energies on the planet earth their days are numbered anyway. But until that day when only light and truth prevails always walk your path with love, peace, compassion and impeccability, whether you're a teacher or student, or even an unaware humble master!

Couldn't copy the entire article...but please..if you want to read more....go here http://www.kachina.net/~alunajoy/2005july-aug.html


Blessings :grouphug:
DR

[Matariki]

1. working toward a new model

http://www.osogd.org/

the name is brilliant and says it all ;-)

and also, my comrades:

http://www.templeoflightanddarkness.org/index.html

[Desertrose]

8. Thanks, Kineta.....

will check out your links :)

wow...its been many years since I've read anything about the Golden dawn.....

:hug:
DR

[Matariki]

11. the first paragraph of the article you posted

reminded me of the goals of the group i linked to, as well as my own goals and the folks i work with. I find the article's claim that a 'decision' was made about revealing 'spiritual secrets' a very interesting one. I posted a very similar statement a few months back and got in a bit of a 'flame-war' over the post. Nonetheless, there's truth here, imo.


I particularly like this quote from the Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn's website:

"In the sense of making it more prevalent, our primary goal is to normalize Adeptship."

[LaurenG]

2. Desertrose you are like a breath of fresh air

I am so happy that I found this group. This is exactly what needs to be said about the "new age". I was taught very early on to trust myself, what I felt and what I "knew". It's our only way out. Thanks again.

[Desertrose]

5. hey..I just pass on information I feel is good...

so you are welcome.

Glad you found this group too. We sure gotta lot nice intelligent, creative and well informed spiritual people here. Lots of experts on many different things too.

I agree, I think too, the best lesson we can get is to learn to trust ourselves.
:hi::hug:
DR

[loudsue]

3. Wow! Thanks, DR! That was a great article!

:hug: And the timing on it couldn't have been more perfect! :loveya:

I've been in melt-down mode for the past 48 hours, and I needed to come back to center.

:evilgrin: That's why I came to the Astrology forum! :hi:

Thank you so much for sharing that piece. In this crazy world, it's sometimes easy to forget where we are, and where we're headed.

Hugs!

loudsue

:kick::kick::kick:

[Desertrose]

6. Hey you, woman...hope you are doing better now....

:hug:
Glad this helped...wanted to post it sooner but ...well I guess today was a perfect time :)

Boy, I know it is a challenge to stay centered in these crazy times. So much going on all around us to pull us off our center place. Takes deliberate focus to remember what we've known for so long and not get caught up in all the bad news we hear 24/7.....

I like Aluna's stuff. She is a cool lady...very open and honest.

Hope you are doing good....nice to see you around the forum:)

:hug::loveya: :hi::hug:
DR

[loudsue]

15. Thank you, my friend.

I'm doing a LOT better now. Working on a project with people I've worked with, off & on, for 18 years or more.... all of them VERY right wing extremists, and a fundie or two. Extreme sexism. (I'm the only woman, as is usual in my job.)

Had a HUGE melt-down with 'em yesterday, but spoke with my spiritual support group friends, and then came to this thread today. :)

I came back to center, and worked it out with them. Tonite, we all went out to dinner, and danced some, and came back to a place of commeraderie... working together again, to get the project completed.

Whew.

Embracing them as PEOPLE, and moving forward, while I'm away from my husband ( :cry: ) , feeling isolated at times, but pressing forward with my head up.... it's just been a bumpy road.

I know I'm lucky to even HAVE work, when there are so many that are without right now.... and work has been really slim since bush took office. Because of the lack of work, there is a lot (a WHOLE lot) of discrimination present, that for many years was not there.

With Libra rising, I really don't like confrontation much, but I've had to kick some butt and take some names since I've been on this project. Unfortunately, with some men, that is the only way you can win respect. It's too bad that my work can't just speak for itself, and the politics be damned. The problem is, I wish people were more grounded in substance and reality than in games. But in reality, that's not how it seems to be in my line of work. There are many others, I know, who face the same problems. In my soul, I just want harmony and peace. But unfortunately, the world doesn't always cooperate.... some people THRIVE on dysfunction, challenges, power struggles, and drama. When someone brings the hammer down, with clarity and honesty, it threatens a lot of people.

:shrug: Just another day in republican-made paradise!

Thanks, again, for the great article! And for the comfort and support you always offer just by being you! O8)

:hug:

loudsue

[Desertrose]

17. awww honey...glad you're feeling better....

I can't imagine working with so many rw's....I am not good at game playing either...gets old fast....but sounds like you are managing ok all things considered...but here some more :hug::grouphug::loveya: for ya.

Hope you get to see the hubby soon....
:hi: loveya :hug:
DR

[loudsue]

18. Thanks, DR.

:grouphug: Your words make me feel all warm and secure inside. :hug:


O8) I Thank God/Goddess for you, and your wise, kind and gentle way! O8)

[Eloriel]

4. Thank you, DR!

Always good advice, and important as ever.

The GOOD teachers will tell you pretty much the same thing: you are your own best authority; your are your own best teacher; don't believe or accept ANYthing that doesn't resonate with your inner self, your heart.

[Desertrose]

7. found this interesting since there is a lot of that spiritual wolf stuff

going on in this town especially. (Maybe that why she wrote it)

We are known as a metaphysical town (one of the more kinder descriptions :evilgrin: )
and I see a lot of this going on...but not just here either...its across the board and I guess its part of basic humanity....to take advantage of others if one sees an opportunity.

I agree completely...the good teachers will always say the same thing and will not try to take or usurp the individual's power....anything else is just BS.


Cool you found a home for the puppy. You do such really good work :)
:hug::loveya:
DR

[Crowdance]

9. Sandra Ingerman is talking about this, too

Must be a timely meme. She discusses it specifically in regard to shamanism, but it has the same theme, here (scroll down one screen):
http://www.shamanicvisions.com/ingerman_folder/05august.html


She talks about the importance of not looking for quick fixes, and of everyone continuing to do their personal work. I believe that, when we stop working on ourselves, it's so easy to become victim to negative thinking and action. I expect the wolves started out with the best of intentions somewhere along the way, but lost their connection to the authentic work.

[Desertrose]

16. Hey Crowdance...I thought that too....

glad you brought it up....


 

As long as we see ourselves as separate from each other we forget  that what we do to each other we do to ourselves. And as long as there is so much inequality there will be separation and hate. As long as there is fundamentalism around the world there will be separate camps and religious wars.

 And as long as we do not honor our connection with nature the elements will keep coming through as hurricanes, tornadoes, fires, and earthquakes to remind us how out of balance we are.

 So what can we do? We can continue our spiritual work. We can find peace within. We can go inside and get very still. We keep praying and connecting to the web of life and doing our work to experience harmony within no matter what is going on around us.

Was over in Santa Fe this past spring with a friend who took Sandra's training.... She seemed to get a lot out of it...hard work though as you know for shamanic training!!

:hi::hug::loveya:
How ya doing????

[Crowdance]

19. I'm doing great!

Preparing to head out for another week of shamanic training/transformation. Some people call it vacation; we call it boot camp! Check out my teacher's site here: http://www.shamansense.org/

Turtle has been connecting me to the Earth so strongly; I expect to bring tremendous energy to this week. Thank you again and again for my beautiful, earth-loving rattle! (and the big muscles I'm growing in my arms....)

I spent only one weekend with Sandra, but it was a very memorable one. That woman instantly, and in the heart of stillness, filled a room with such powerful energy my hair was standing on end. Very powerful, authentic woman, acting with such integrity. I work closely in one of my Circles with a woman who trains with her, so I get the third-hand benefit of some of her teachings. It is rigorous stuff.

[Desertrose]

20. what a cool website....loved the name...

Last Mask.....very fitting :)


Looks like fantastic courses......especially Healing the Ancestral Line. I sure wish I had the time & energy (physical & financial) to do some of these things.....so glad you are doing it!!!! :)


Thats so cool that Brother Turtle is helping you with your work. (Dang he's a big fellow, isn't he? LOL)


Have an incredible time at "boot camp"....I have no doubt it will be extraordiary in many ways!!

:hug::hug::loveya
DR

[KittyWampus]

10. The First Point Is Well Taken. And I'll Mention That My Attempts To

point out the misinformation given by an author peddling his Snakeoil on this forum was roundly rejected by both the Original Poster of this particular thread and quite a few other DU'ers.


"First . . . Spiritual wolves know the unconscious program called "It is not spiritual to disagree with spiritual teachings or a teacher". In your world, you say it is "ALL IS GOOD". Unfortunately, the wolves in the flock know this about this program. They know that they can do what they want to, and you will stand by and pretend to radiate light when inside you are feeling something is really wrong. They know that you will not stand up to them, because you will be instantly shunned by your spiritual family for speaking out, and for "rocking the boat". "

M. Sharp the author repeatedly mischaracterized my critiquing of his words and was totally unable to rebut my stand on Principles.

In this regard please read my signature line. There's a whole level of difference between the Psychic and Sprititual.

[Desertrose]

14. I'm sorry you feel that way about him.

I have had no problems with Mr. Sharp or his information. I have been receiving similar info for a long time now. I certainly do not see it as disinformation. We are all coming back to our true hearts and selves by many different paths. There is no one way or right way. Sometimes people just don't get along...doesn't make one right or the other wrong. Just working different ways to the same thing...source/creator/god.

I really don't remember exactly what the problem was between the two of you but hope we don't have to rehash it .

I certainly agree there is a difference between psychic and spiritual...I have been on the spiritual path my entire life and have gone through many different teachings, all of which offered me valuable lessons & truths that became part of who I am, before I moved on.....

as to your sig line, that is your truth but hopefully you realize that doesn't mean it has to be everyone's.

Blessings
:hug:
DR

[Eloriel]

21. Okay,

hope we don't have to rehash it

Probably a good point. So I'll refrain from adding anything more than my own "yeah, me too!" to your response.

[Desertrose]

22. but it ain't up to me.....

maybe the discussion needs to go deeper :shrug: after all, I'm not the "forum nanny" ....tee hee I like that one....

woman, if ya gotta speak, then who am I to say don't.


:hug::loveya:

( just saw MS over on the UFO thread in MR)

[Matariki]

12. thanks for posting that link Desertrose

I *really* liked the 'new teacher' article. i admit i have a great deal of skepticism toward 'channeled' material - i'm assuming that's what these article's are(?) but i appreciate intelligence and good sense *wherever* it comes from.

[Desertrose]

13. I know many people seem to ...and with good reason

be skeptical about channeled material that is.

There are plenty out there that may not be pulling info in from the highest source but again I feel that is part of our lesson on discernment and to learn/realize that we have all the knowledge and wisdom we need, we just have to tap into it and to learn to trust ourselves. That doesn't always come instantly.


I agree that good sense, intelligence and truth are valuable no matter the source. Truth should transcend its source.

I always pick out the "truth tidbits" and use them, the rest I just let go.

[Cleita]

23. I never really thought of the forces that have us by the

jugular in these dark days as spiritual wolves. Thanks for the information and insight, DR.

[davsand]

24. The ones who say they are the exclusive holders of truth scare me off.

The more vehement they get the faster I run...

It is a running joke between me and an old pillow friend that the only difference between New Age and Pagan is a few decimal points. When a quartz crystal has a price tag on it that far exceeds the cost of a trip to find it/dig it up, you are seeing that principle in action. (Frankly, I flinch at paying for them at all given the fact that I see them as a gift, but I also understand that ethics do not preclude a living.)

Seems to me that the ones who work the hardest to convince you that they ARE a teacher or that only they can lead you to enlightenment, THOSE are the ones to look at very carefully with your mind's eye and heart's truth.

I have always seen this search for understanding as being a lot like a big lake. Some folks are riding around in big boats (maybe the Christians and other organized religions fall into this) with the paddle wheel turning and the music playing. Others are hanging onto floating limbs and driftwood paddling away for dear life, while even more are in row boats and sailboats and kayaks. There are even a few that are sitting on the shore...

I think your teachers can help you chart a course, but in no way can they be the boat for you. You have got to do that all by your lonesome, and I think the nature of your boat can change over time.

It might be a funny viewpoint, but it sure has helped me sort out the good ones from the ones I was not meant to study with.


Laura

[Desertrose]

25. Always told my kids that if someone tells you THIS is the only way

that you can think....to run. Pretty much just what you said too:)

and I learned by observing that if someone has to "tell" you what he/she is....they probably aren't.

as in:
I am a healer
I am a shaman
I am the reincarnation of the 12th dynasty king of all the nine universes
(OK some are more obvious than others :eyes:

Now if others say that about them with out being prompted, thats when I take a closer look.

Truth has its own voice and actions will usually give someone away if they are not living in their truth. We are all lightworkers and are getting much better at cutting through the BS.

I agree teachers are really just another tool to help us learn and remember what we somewhere, already know.

:hi::hug::loveya: