Well...? what's the VIBE on the SOTU, folks...?

[FirstLight]

Astrologers, please take heed of the date and time and all that wonderfull info. We need some actual feedback from the Spiritual and Visionary community that IS this wonderful group.

So far we have been off about a few things, perhaps because we are letting our self filter the information through the lower chakras. If we can really look at this through our 6th & 7th, we may have a better time seeing it from creator point of view...
(that's my take, I have been working alot up in that area and it seems less fuzzy up there ;) )

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I haven't watched the whole thing yet. Don't know if I can bear to at this point, because I am one of those Impatient Americans who wants results yesterday! That said, what I have gathered from the snippets is the fact that he is still a wonderfully moving orator... but he may be naieve in thinking that his eloquence will win over the bastards.

Either that, or he is crazy like a fox and using it as a distraction so he can blow past them and do the lay-up (he, basketball reference, he)...

that was the vision i saw just now while contemplating it...my own lower vibes have a totally different judgement on things and I am going to try and keep that edited ;)


Your thoughts....vibes, dreams, etc. on this?

[Fire Walk With Me]

1. I believe that he is crazy like a fox and is working in our greatest good

but that =the majority must work with him= in order for his initiatives to take hold.

Seeing as he stated in a my.obama email that his initiative will not gain wide favor during his lifetime, I take this as given. Like the Founding Fathers, he is planting seeds, setting up guidance to the greater good. Note how long after America was founded upon certain principles such as "All men being equal" it has taken for it to even begin to take root and come into action.*

2012 does not mean instant paradise. It means the potential for paradise, if we work to create it. Most folks are busy creating the same old stuff, but now with more and more energy behind it.

I have no idea if this is Divine Order or not (and slap me silly if I ever say that I fully understand the Will of God, in those words) but as Karen Bishop calls this "The Fall"....Remember, That which a thing is, increases in this energy. I have had darker and darker stuff flying out of me =as I have been willing to release it and thus change my behaviour=. Those who are unwilling to change "may" cause trouble as the tension between such personal vibrations and the Earth vibration increases.

It is all up to us. For better and for worse. I'm praying to anchor the higher dimensions throughout Earth (and they are already available, at least the 4th and 5th, which are quite evident; I don't know if I'd recognize the 6th and beyond if I encountered them directly). At least we may plant the seeds of higher realm experience and hopefully thus, higher realm craving.

Sound vague? Of course it is. We can create anything right now. It's entirely up to us. Will we? It's possible. Is it definite that we'll all choose to create paradise and not waste God's astonishing gift to us? Well..."I have found, you can find happiness in slavery." -nin

* Of course:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..." -The Constitution of the United States

Edit: "God, please bless and guide American politics to the greatest good for all involved." Repeat as necessary.

[MorningGlow]

2. Not so much a vibe as an assessment

I LOOOOVED the fact that Obama called out the repubs and his other detractors many times, in a sort of "I know perfectly well what you're doing and this is how I'm going to communicate it to the American public if they don't know already" way. It also confirmed what I suspected--that the down side of a government such as ours, with a balance of powers, is that the president can have all the great ideas in the world, but if people from another branch (I'm lookin' at you, Senate, and you, SCOTUS) decide they're going to act like pouty children and obstruct real progress just to be doodyheads, they will, at every opportunity. Hence the situation we're in at the moment.

Now what I want to see is Obama doing that dodge around these assholes to accomplish his layup--the things that he--and we--know to be the right actions to take. But like I've said before, he's more forthright, not at all a "backroom deal" type of guy, and that could be to his detriment. He wants everyone in DC to act like grownups, like he's doing, and they just...won't. So I'm hoping he'll figure out the secret to getting the naysayers by the nads and getting them to do what he wants. :D

[FirstLight]

3. My mom mentioned that he invoked the power of the Executive order

really?


I actually WISH he woud act a little like Bush and take his RED PEN out when those shit bills come to his desk and say, "uh...NOT!"

"guys...it's supposed to look like THIS!"

haHA!The pen IS mightier than the sword!

Here's Hopin' :toast:


but i still want us out of afganistan too :(

[MorningGlow]

4. I know why he doesn't get out the red pen

Honestly, he really, REALLY reminds me of how I spent my one and only year teaching high school. I had all the seniors in the school (small school--four classes covered them all). I came in in October, replacing someone who'd been there quite a few years but who had run, screaming, to a more sensible district up the road. I also was really young--closer in age to the students than their parents--and correspondingly stupid (that's where Obama and I differ). So I decided to be honest about the situation and make the students my allies (but not my buddies). I appealed to the fact that they had been in the district all their lives, but I was new--I asked for their help, and I treated them like the adults they were supposed to be, expecting them to rise to the occasion. Some did, but many didn't. (Most tried to stay neutral and blend into the woodwork.) The ones who didn't were bitter about having a new teacher, and some of the girls were jealous because I was young and they saw me as "competition" (yeah right :eyes:). Sound familiar?

Honestly, when he said in the SOTU "I don't quit", it reminded me of the day my students waged a particularly nasty onslaught and I responded quite sharply, "I'm not going anywhere, so don't waste your energy."

Anyway, speaking from experience, I can say that Obama is still trying to get the repubs to join in of their own free will--still giving them a chance to act like adults and play nice. If he doesn't give them enough of a chance, they'll go running to Faux Snooz and whine that he's cutting them out of the government. If he gives them too much of a chance, they'll act like my nasty students--bite the hand that feeds them, take advantage...and go running to Faux Snooz and whine that he doesn't know what he's doing (which they have been doing already). Now, if he's smart, he'll have consequences in place to employ if they don't step up soon.

Me, I quit after the first year. But Obama is far, far smarter than I am, and far more tenacious. It's gonna get interesting, I think.

[Fire Walk With Me]

5. "Obama is still trying to get the repubs to join in of their own free will.."

Very true. And just like the craven act of the SCOTUS, they will have less and less ability to explain themselves adequately aside from "We're greedy control freaks who don't care about you at all".

"Faux Snooze" :rofl: :hi:

[MorningGlow]

6. "Give 'em enough rope" and all that

Perhaps Obama is just sitting back and waiting for them to hang themselves--all by themselves, so his and other Dems' hands will be clean. With so much hubris (and not enough brain power), it's a very good possibility.

I can't take credit for "Fauz Snooz"--too much DU humor to mine! :hi:

[JanusAscending]

9. No one wants us out of Afganistan

more than I do. Remember my precious grandaughter and her fiance are stationed over there with their Army regiment. I have no clue where she is, or in how much danger they are, but the sooner they are safe at home, the better I'll feel. I have to keep reminding myself that this is what they signed up to do for their country. Hard to blame anyone one for their choice.

[JanusAscending]

7. Force yourself to watch it....

the whole thing if you can. Pay special attention to the last 10 min. or so. I was bawling like a baby. I don't know if any of the rest of you noticed this, but it was so quiet in the room you could hear a pin drop. All I heard was him, making a point...and between each sentence his hands "thumping" the podium like a punctuation mark (a period) I was mesmerized by the sound of his voice, and his hands making this sound in between each sentence!!! When he was done...........I fell apart, just melted and thought "how can anyone in their right mind doubt his intent, and sincerity.?" We evidently have a lot of insane people in D.C. as we do in the media. I watched it on MSNBC, once the commentators shut up!! Before that I had it on CSpan. I will NEVER give up on Obama, I have all the patience in the world where he is concerned. I just keep him in my prayers and keep believing in the Christ Light to protect him and our country. The rest can go to the dark place if that's what they choose!!! Their loss, our gain, IMHO !!

[Blue_Roses]

12. me too! I was breathless!

Those last ten minutes had everyone spell-bound! What grounded me in reality was the passion with how he spoke. He truly wants the best for this country, however, we have a group in Washington who continue to act like the spoiled-baby-boomers that they are--kind of like a kid who whines when dad takes the keys away for coming in too late.

I also think Obama allows his "higher power" to work through him, which explains his humility. I pray for him daily. He has a tough job, so I too, will continue to be very supportive.

[FirstLight]

8. And what about TODAY'S little event?

I am seing what MG said above about Obama basically proving that the GOP can't be worked WITH...so fine we NOW will work without them!

perhaps that was the last chance for togetherness...now he is gonna do the Blow-By!

or maybe he just did..?

[OneGrassRoot]

10. I'm so out of it, I need to watch both the SOTU and whatever...

happened today.

Someone needs to create a weekly "for dummies" summary of things WE would deem important, not what MSM deems worthy.

:hi:

:hug:

[eilen]

11. He gave a good speech

and that is what I expected. He is an amazing communicator. However, we need to listen to what he actually says and not build on them what we want to hear.

However, speeches are nothing without action. He spoke of jobs. I want to hear more about tax breaks being eliminated for companies hiring H1B's. During his speech I was seeing articles about the jobs bill becoming weaker. He talked about exports but had no details, no plan about re-manufacturizing (is that a word?) our economy. Currently our economy is 70% consumer driven, most of our jobs are service jobs so I would like to know how we are going to compete with slave wages across the globe. I would like him to have a meeting with labor leaders and workers asking for advice on how to fix things instead of bankers and corporate tools. I would like to know how he plans to bring peace to our nation so that I don't have to worry about my son dying in some godforsaken corner of Afghanistan. I think he is a smart man. Can't he visualize a different way of resolving our problems than with war?

I am no longer pinning any hopes on him that he does not say, without qualifications (for instance, as in public option). I do not like many of his compromises and little has been fought for when it comes to the common man in regards to protection from being forced from their homes, hunger, and living wage jobs.