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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 11:39 PM
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So, I'm not surprised.
Nor am I particularly upset by last night's results.

I can't tell you exactly why, but I must repeat that I just did not put all my eggs in Obama's or the Congress's baskets..so to see that both seem to have taken a tarnish does not really grab me one way or the other right now.

I must say that personally, if it is true that Obama is a light-worker himself; (and I am certainly open to that probability; but I never claim to know anything for certain about anyone without personal interaction - and sometimes even with such) then it seems his mission here is to remind us to look to ourselves and each other/our more immediate communities, than to expect much huge change and leadership from those in 'power'. Sure, sometimes it frustrates me that the message seems to be that we have to do ALL the work - and that those in 'power' cannot be worthy of the investment of our time and trust at all - but it becomes increasingly apparent that to do so would be, frankly, lazy...and we will not be allowed to be lazy :)

As much as I wish that this heavy lifting would be done in some part for us; it now seems even more obvious that all of the power structures are unstable (no matter if they are D or R or even I) and need restructuring or something even stronger.

Or, I could be completely wrong. We obviously (as a country/group of people) need some kind of reinforcing lesson about something. I'm just not completely sure what that lesson is. I'm not as emotionally invested in the drama about it as I was before...and I don't really think that's a bad thing. I voted; I paid attention. But I refuse to FIGHT AGAINST everything. No need to put even more frustration and anger out into the ether.

Again, just my .02.
Yours?
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 01:08 AM
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1. I am not that upset, either.
First of all, I was prepared for it. We have not lost everything. That would have upset me and caused me to get out and fight against things.

We have the Senate and the Presidency. There is still hope to do more with the Supreme Court. And I think the teabaggers, who were saying even last night, that they plan to hold REPUBLICANS accountable, will cause so much infighting in that party that they will not be able to get much done. We will have to remind them of their broken promises in two years.

I still believe that so much of the anger I was seeing was manufactured. I had real anger after the 2000 election. Most of us did.

Anger or grief will make me get out and do more than I do already. I see no tragedy and no reason for fighting.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 03:57 AM
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2. Bluestar posted this in Mysticalchick's thread about lightworkers:
I think it's very interesting and applicable to your post. I don't know anything either, but this resonates. I've copied and pasted Bluestar's post below:

http://www.akashictransformations.net/mc/page/ARon

It's someone who reads the Akashic Records and is giving a reading for Obama and the elections. Here are some major points from the article:

1. Obama is a catalyst for change, he doesn't make the changes happen. He is here for the world, not just the US. He is here to give power to the individual to make changes themselves in their own lives.
2. He fulfilled his karmic contract shortly after the election.
3. Elections have swung like a pendulum for 30 years. The pendulum is swinging shorter and shorter now and party changes will happen every 3-4 years, instead of every 8-10 years. Within 10 years the political ideology will settle in somewhere in the middle.
4. The Ascension is creating this instability. As more people take back their own power it makes those around them act crazy and unstable.

This all coincides with what my guide has told me about Obama. Instead of being the "change we are looking for" he was placed where he is to stabilize and "hold it together" while change occurs. That is why he is so conciliatory with Republicans and makes those on the left so crazy at times. As the shift plays out people act crazy as they are looking for their "savior"--sounds like religion, huh? When they can't find it one place, they look in another.

:hi:
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:53 AM
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3. Thanks for that link. n/t
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:55 AM
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5. thanks, OGR...
that matches with what I'm feeling. Obama (and, frankly, W) are here to push us to be the change. But I don't think Obama's allowing the bankster criminals to roam free and reap more profits than ever -- all at taxpayer expense -- while so many are thrown out into the streets is particularly stabilizing. I think it is de-stabilizing...and will force more change. The more out of balance "the system" gets, the bigger the blowback will be...

On point #4, I think what makes people act crazy and unstable is fear. As more and more take back their own power, they lose their fear. but those that haven't taken back their own power and don't know how to...they fear terribly those who have.

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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 03:27 PM
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9. Regarding people looking for a saviour--this is the closest explanation
I can see that explains why people would vote for Obama in 2008, then look for someone else to save them in 2010 when things got worse. They are flailing around looking for someone else to save them, and pick (unbelievably) the Republicans! Of course it could also be the knee-jerk reaction of people wandering around in darkness who were alarmed by the display of light in 2008 and determined to convince others of their point of view.

I know I have a cousin I've always loved (and thought she was normal) who, after 2008, became a campaign manager and blogger for a tea party nut who ran for Congress in Kansas. I haven't confronted her, but in reading her blog she apparently has no idea why her love of Tea Party ideals makes people think she is filled with hate, racism, etc.

Another example, my sister, who is the most loving, nurturing person I know has decided that Nancy Pelosi is the enemy and Obama is evil. She will not share any information about why she believes this, but aligns herself with the merchants of hate, the Republicans. I recently confronted her and we had the only fight of our entire lives over this issue. Interestingly, I stuck to my guns and we eventually had the most open dialog we have ever had. She is now interested in what I have to say about spirituality, the location and situation of our recently-deceased sister and what my belief system is. I believe her association with the evangelical church has totally blinded her to what the Republicans stand for.

These folks have all been blinded by Illuminati energy and don't see that what is in their heart is in conflict with their politics. That is how the Elites have maintained power and control. It is all blowing wide open now and is the reason for the instability. By hearing the truth from us, they can turn to the light but so many are afraid to do so.

I'm trying to speak out where I have hidden things before. I think this is part of our Ascension as lightworkers have had to hide our beliefs, lifetime after lifetime in order to survive. It's now OK and safe for us to speak our truth and not give in to the fear--of survival, the reaction of others or how the right-wingers can hurt us as they no longer can.

Bluestar
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 08:02 AM
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12. interesting. good stuff
4. The Ascension is creating this instability. As more people take back their own power it makes those around them act crazy and unstable.

this is really important to me. thanks.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:48 AM
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4. my concern is the crazy at the local level...
Where we ended up with an extreme rightwing governor combined with a rightwing majority in the state house. The good news is I doubt he'll be able to push his agenda -- drilling for oil off Maine's coast and turning Belfast into a commercial port with oil pipeline -- through in 4 years and I'm expecting what the akashic record site said...that every 4 years the pendulum will be swinging as people keep looking desperately for solutions from the top. When they realize he's as helpless -- or more so -- in this crisis, they'll switch again. In the meantime, the dems will hopefully put together a stronger team to shove him out. At the national level, I don't really think it matters which party "wins" because the banksters control them all now.

In the meantime, I postponed buying oil, thinking the stock market would crash one more time after the elections. That may not happen, so I may regret that decision. I tried to crank the propane direct vent heater for the first time this year just to take the chill off the bird room...and discovered that the wires that connect the thermostat came off, so now I have *only* the electric heat in my sunroom. I have a little space heater -- running that for 30 minutes did the job. I don't mind using electric -- before this election, a lot of stuff was put in place helping Maine to start generating electricity via wind. Hopefully the new governor won't be able to stop, or even slow, that train down.

And everything that is happening is pushing me to change, to cut back, to find new ways to save and do for myself. Next year I'll be growing large amounts of food. Not just tomatoes and peppers and summer squash. I've been trying to figure out what to do with the huge area in the back that I rototilled. Pumpkin and winter squash patch came to mind. Low maintenance. Lots of food. Need space. I can get locally grown potatoes and buckwheat.

A little at a time, it's coming together. I just hope when the shit seriously hits the fan, my neighbors stop being total assholes. I have met a few of them that are a-ok. They're 2-3 houses away, but they're normal people... I think the ones across the street will be ok too.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 03:56 PM
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11. Yes, I'm with you on the gardening..
We've got a nice, large flat sunny space in the backyard just begging for some raised beds. I'll be checking craigslist for castoff lumber and a saw in the early spring, and hoping I won't get a black thumb.

Yes, crazy at the local level is a definate concern. I tried to get as many progressives voted in as possible; but I DO live in NC; lol.

I'm also hoping to be able to progress to going off the electric grid sometime in the next 5-10 yrs total. I'd like to do it sooner; but money constraints are a factor at the moment. Of course; all that could change if the monetary system changes.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:45 AM
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6. I'm with you, LG
I really wasn't surprised, and deep down I felt it really didn't matter. But it wasn't quite the cynical view of "oh, all politicians are the same, no matter whether they have an R or a D after their names"--it was more like...the powermongers can play their games in Washington and in the individual states, but me? I'm just going to keep on living my life.

I know--it's like that scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, where the peasants didn't recognize King Arthur. Because it wasn't relevant to their immediate lives.

ARTHUR: Old woman!
DENNIS: Man!
ARTHUR: Old Man, sorry. What knight live in that castle over there?
DENNIS: I'm thirty seven.
ARTHUR: What?
DENNIS: I'm thirty seven--I'm not old!
ARTHUR: Well, I can't just call you 'Man'.
DENNIS: Well, you could say 'Dennis'.
ARTHUR: Well, I didn't know you were called 'Dennis.'
DENNIS: Well, you didn't bother to find out, did you?
ARTHUR: I did say sorry about the 'old woman,' but from the behind you looked--
DENNIS: What I object to is you automatically treat me like an inferior!
ARTHUR: Well, I AM king...
DENNIS: Oh king, eh, very nice. An' how'd you get that, eh? By exploitin' the workers--by hangin' on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic an' social differences in our society! If there's ever going to be any progress--
WOMAN: Dennis, there's some lovely filth down here. Oh--how d'you do?
ARTHUR: How do you do, good lady. I am Arthur, King of the Britons. Whose castle is that?
WOMAN: King of the who?
ARTHUR: The Britons.
WOMAN: Who are the Britons?
ARTHUR: Well, we all are. we're all Britons and I am your king.
WOMAN: I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective.
DENNIS: You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes--
WOMAN: Oh there you go, bringing class into it again.
DENNIS: That's what it's all about if only people would--
ARTHUR: Please, please good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle?
WOMAN: No one lives there.
ARTHUR: Then who is your lord?
WOMAN: We don't have a lord.
ARTHUR: What?
DENNIS: I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.
ARTHUR: Yes.
DENNIS: But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting.
ARTHUR: Yes, I see.
DENNIS: By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs--
ARTHUR: Be quiet!
DENNIS: --but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more--
ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!
WOMAN: Order, eh? Who does he think he is?
ARTHUR: I am your king!
WOMAN: Well, I didn't vote for you.
ARTHUR: You don't vote for kings.
WOMAN: Well, 'ow did you become king then?
ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering semite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king!
DENNIS: Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
ARTHUR: Be quiet!
DENNIS: Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: I mean, if I went around sayin' I was an emperor just because some moistened bink had lobbed a scimitar at me they'd put me away!
ARTHUR: Shut up! Will you shut up!
DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!
ARTHUR: Bloody peasant!
DENNIS: Oh, what a giveaway. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 01:33 PM
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7. Makes me giggle every time!
Love it, love it.
Great analogy reference (?!something like that). :hug:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 02:26 PM
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8. Pendulum swinging back and forth ever so quickly, settling at the center
where we are our own decision-makers.

Yes, I'll agree with that. The republicans aren't going to find an easy time of it in the next two years. "Unstable". More will be revealed, more will pendulum. Those who imagined that the 2008 vote was permanent, are waking up to the fact that we need to keep creating the positive (or someone else will create something FOR us).

Whew...
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 03:53 PM
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10. Not shocked, either. Not surprised. Sad.
And fearing, based on the blase reaction I am seeing from (some) Democrats, that the next big political event is going to shock people. And good luck to the country after that happens.
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