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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:05 PM
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Here's how I think the planetary transits work in terms of "good" or "bad" results.
At least it's the best analogy I can come up with:

Let's look at what is happening now in early Capricorn. Pluto is around 4 degrees and Mars is approaching conjunction and at 1 degree now.

If your chart or your nation's chart or your dog's chart has something SENSITIVE at that point, it's going to be hit by Mars and Pluto. If you don't have a planetary point there that is sensitive, it is still occurring in your chart in a much more general way.

If that spot represents an OLD SORE SPOT that has not been resolved, you're most likely going to have unpleasant results. And the longer that sore spot has been stagnant and unhealed, the worse it gets. That takes no rocket surgeon to figure out. The exact conjunction of Mars and Pluto will be on Monday, Dec. 13. But, Mars almost always triggers whatever it touches when it is one degree before conjunction which will be Sunday, Dec. 12. Like clocwork - you watch and see. If it hits early in your life, it's simply because the sore spot has gotten so big.

These very results may in fact be seen as "bad" but in the long run, might turn out great because the "junk" had to come to the surface for healing. That's what Pluto does along with the instigation by THE instigator, Mars.

We've all had situations where we held on, hoping that the "old rotting floor boards" would hold on for just one more day. Then, other days where it all collapses. It's not the floorboard's fault; it's us for not dealing with the issue much earlier. In a healthy fashion that didn't have to get "bad." It's not Pluto or Mars' fault either, because their main function is to keep nature rolling along, and that includes the decay part of the cycle.

Now, you might get injured if the floor boards let go and you fall - yes, you may. But, in most cases (unless there is very heavy past karma involved) we knew "IT was coming." There is no IT. There's only dealing WITH IT, or trying to ignore IT. All ITs are really US or OURS unless we try to disown it, which is not at all suggested.

So, if we deal with it, and it's good, then the current Mars-Pluto transit may be experienced as being "good." That is a very good indication that you have been doing well in terms of "cleaning up your act." I see it all the time. It's called people living in sync with their life. It's all relative. It may FEEL like some outside force is bringing us good or bad outcomes, but that is not how it is.

Again, these planets are PRO-OUR-EVOLUTION. They will do what is necessary to get us back on track in a balanced way or they will bring us deleterious results in because we need to get out of the picture. Imagine if the garbage man passed up your house for 2 or 3 years. I think you got the point.

I hope that helps you to understand the dynamics of how these beautiful planets work.

:grouphug: - Starself
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:16 PM
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1. Thanks for the information, Rick.
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 01:17 PM by I Have A Dream
This is going to be "interesting" for me. Both Pluto and Mars will be exactly opposing my natal Mars and it triggers my entire Grand Water trine kite. Sigh... I'm ready to do the work -- I just need to figure out what it is. :shrug:

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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:27 PM
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2. Very good Stu
Mars= do it Pluto= reach deep and bring out your passion

You are READY, that's why it's there. There may not be a specific thing you need to do, since your Mars is in the 8th, and PL/Ma is coming from your 2nd, it means: assert thyself and adjust how you perceive your self-worth is affected when you combine with others.

That's generally it. What do you think? :hi:
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:20 PM
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3. Another way of looking at our "sore spot"
is a collection, or NEST of negative feelings or thoughts. That's a tough one. Purity is purity, Pluto is the great cleanser.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:27 PM
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4. hmmmm how do i tell if it is a sore spot?
(other than the fact i have been a freaking basket case recently?) :rofl:

My venus and sun are in early Capricorn

and well, ya... December always seems to be a 'rough month' for me...

lots of stuff i can;t even begin to list, feelings are raw, and feeling like i can;t make a 'good christmas' for my kids seems to be at the top of the list...though i know there is more to it than that.
and for some reason i am not looking forward to my bday (not that I ever really do, it always seem to be dissapoointing, nobody ever asks me out to play or anything for new years...ever!)

so ya...can you spell some of the planet stuff out for me? i feel like a freak these days...
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:48 PM
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5. Mars and Pluto at the bottom of your chart
indicates that you need to be "repotted". Seriously. Your past no longer works. Pluto alienates us so we can see that we CAN do the work ourselves. Pluto wants us to look within for our power and our answers. Pluto transits indicate that we ARE READY and that our power has arrived. Repotting means, "I can no longer live in this same old toxic soil." Only you know what that means.

You can tell if it's a sore spot because it feels sore.

It's that simple.

In my humble opinion, life (God) will heal it if we just get out of the way and allow the process to happen. Mental activity won't help. We're all the same. Heart and love heals, nothing else. :hi:
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:28 PM
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6. Powerful words, Rick!
I feel like some of the transit-y things you mentioned, already happened, and yet the problem is still persisting, although presently, monetarily there is a small but brief break.What does it look like from your perspective of my heavens?? :hi:
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:41 PM
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7. This will go on FOR YEARS to come
This is a major ERA we are in. It will keep repeating, and be triggered by various fast-moving planets like Mars.
It "persists" because you can only peel off the old paint layers one bit at a time, I guess.

Being WITH the process is all that matters, then the planets support you. :hi:

Hell, they keep me busy! Sure, it "already" happened, it started 1/25/08, remember?

YOURS is happening in the ninth house. That's the house of higher mind or philosophy. With all the Neptoon (selflessness) that you have in your chart, it simply means to start being more "self"ish, more allowing of what you want, less likely to hang on the cross for any and all.

Good luck.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 06:03 PM
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10. Thanks, Rick!
1/25/08...I wished I'd kept a diary! HAHA!
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 07:28 PM
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18. You have one
zoom way way out, and look at the overall patterning of your life (and all of us) since 2008. You'll see it.
Look at the massive transition of "death and hopeful rebirth" in the USA itself! :hi:
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 05:37 PM
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30. Interesting, alright!
I'm quite ready for the hopeful rebirth or at least I think I am...dang!!... now I probably need to examine that slight hesitation! ARGH!
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:45 PM
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8. very interesting... indeed
repotting = changing my name? = telling my 18 yr old to shape up or get out, despite the blowback from my OWN mother because she is *still* punishing me for how MY transition to adulthood went down...?

= reclaiming how MY own LIFE looks for me and the 2 children i have yet to raise, despite the fact my son and mother both resent me for their father's(the ex's) transgressions...like 'I brought it on the family....'

ya...

wowsers... no wonder my emotions are so flared up!
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 06:32 PM
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14. It has nothing to do with other people
It just looks that way. They are merely players in our own script.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 07:10 PM
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15. Can I be publicly dense for a moment?
I've heard that phrase before, "get out of the way," and I'm not sure what it means in practical terms. I'm just now beginning to understand that there's a lot I can't control and I need to accept that; is that it? But--isn't that letting other "forces" or whatever take over?

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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 07:21 PM
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16. A difficult question to answer, I think
"getting out of the way of ourselves"

It has been explained in thousands of ways by Jesus, Zen, all religions, philosphies.

"Unless ye become like a child you cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven" all the same.

I have experienced it, but don't know if I can do well explaining it. My best shot:

As long as I am hung up on "Rickness" I lose touch with the "I AMness" of "me".

That is not gumbledygook either. When "I" am ok with everything around "me" everything is ok. When I am not, it is because I have made up the fact that my OKness is dependent on thatness. Or, outside myself. The "outside" world can only be what it is.

The MYTH is that you CAN control anything. You in essence cannot. That's why all wisdom is preset with the words "Let it be" because it IS anyway.

Life happens, we are witnesses, nothing more. The rest is illusory according to Zen, Christianity (in its purest form), etc.
The myth is that we are separate. We are not. The WISH for separateness is what "initially" gave rise to the dream or maya or what we call the world. It's all imaginary, until the day comes that we awaken.

So, the fact that I get in my way, or try to propogate or propel "Rick" just gets in the way of Rick just unfolding as another arm
of God. Just like all of us.

The myth is that we can guide ourselves better than HE.
When, in fact, there is No One here except Him. The rest is His dream that we have, in a way, taken too seriously.

Those are a few ways I can say it. I'm sure there are many, many people here who can say it with other words, songs, writings, movies, art, etc.

Christ said, "I and My Father are one". Therefore, if there is just Christ, there is no unison. Jesus had to "get out of the way."

I'd love to hear other people's ways of "explaining" it. :hi: There are no "other forces"
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:45 AM
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23. Good stuff to ponder, thank you.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 07:28 PM
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17. Ooh,
now this really resonates: heart and love heals, nothing else. Thank you. :hug:
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 09:38 PM
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19. "Resonate" what a great word!
Ooh Ooh, resonate all over yourself! That kinda resonates. :hi:
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 11:33 AM
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28. pssst.... the words "toxic soil" hit me hard
Today I start the 'clean train'...no pot, (cigarettes & booze too if i can really make it stick)

from today to jan & beyond my comittment is to be 'testable' for employment.
no doobies till gainful employment
god help me!

(you know i am gonna need you guys bigtime!)
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:48 PM
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9. Well that sounds like oodles of fun!
:rofl:

Hey Rick, I was just wondering today ... this year, especially the latter half of this year, I've spent a lot of time and energy "reinventing" myself, mostly physically. Is that part of it? Or am I just having a midlife crisis? :P

:hi:
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 06:29 PM
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12. it's all the same thing nt
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 06:05 PM
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11. like the garbage man analogy, and sometimes we can't
even see our garbage, so Pluto and Mars, barge in and say...hey, get to work, time to clean it up!
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 06:30 PM
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13. exactly nt
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 09:43 PM
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20. Something sensitive at that spot?
Can you tell us more what that means? Does it mean planets in the early part of Capricorn?

I am confused because my natal moon is at 29 degrees. Does mars and pluto's movement into Capricorn bring relief to me? Or are they still close enough to my natal moon for it to be affected?

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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:12 PM
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21. Sensitive means, in general,
Planets in the first degrees Cardinal, i.e., Capricorn, Aries, Cancer, or Libra.
Needless to say, Pluto in Capricorn is greatly affecting planets in the early degrees of ALL signs by major or minor aspect.
Since Mars is triggering from early Capricorn also, it is instigating its effects also on late mutable planets, i.e., late Sag, Gemini, Virgo, and Pisces

In your chart, certainly your Moon in late Sag has been through an awful lot for about the last 4 YEARS. You are probably quite used to it at this point. If in fact one can become used to PL. I would say you are probably in STAGE 4 of the PL transit. According to my definition:

Stage
1. Denial, something needs to change
2. Acceptance, "OK, I'll get with it, It sux, but I'll deal with it." Much "death" of some type happens in stage 2 with litte or no light at the end of the tunnel
3. The work continues, and light becomes visible at the end of the tunnel.
4. Success and riding the wave of the successful PL cleansing. PL has been assimilated! You are now more powerful and self-reliant, (or you have failed greatly and become a shell of what you "used to be." This is quite rare but sadly does occur.)

Your Venus at 8 is a little bit outside the orb of this reaction, although it's starting to "Light up." It will become PLized soon; about another year.

PL/Mars are inconjunct your Sun in early Gemini. That's a 150 degree aspect. It is significant but isn't quite as strong as the conjunction, opposition, or squares. Even so, it will press you to transformation as any PL transit does.

Your other planets are, I guess you could say, out of the picture for now. In about 2 years, PL will cross the bottom of your chart and you will find it time to be repotted too, as in the message I replied to earlier to FirstLight. :hi:
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:20 PM
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22. thanks for the explanation
yes, I have been through a lot over the past four years and don't think I've reached stage 4.

Looks like the repotting will more major upheaval in the next couple of years.

I need a rest.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 10:24 AM
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27. Yes , it will be upheaval
Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 10:24 AM by Ricochet21
but think of it as rebirth! truly!

read today's post #25 from a client of mine
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:36 AM
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24. Energy Shifts and why I feel like having a good cry.
3. The work continues, and light becomes visible at the end of the tunnel.
4. Success and riding the wave of the successful PL cleansing. PL has been assimilated! You are now more powerful and self-reliant, (or you have failed greatly and become a shell of what you "used to be." This is quite rare but sadly does occur.)


Okay, Here is where I am grokking on your points here...

First, finally it seemed like I was at #3 and getting stuff done-- clearing out enormous amounts of stuff physical/nonphysical, developing a plan, etc. #4 Seemed just in my reach, I have been writing, planning a blog and hoped to build up a following, build the foundations of an online presence and business. Continuing with my paring down-- try to sell the stuff I don't wish to give away, get the pictures scanned and uploaded/backed up and passing them on to other family etc. We (my husband and I) have been making plans to move -- I would put the house up after ds graduates, and until then, tie up all kinds of little issues with the house to make it ready, all different things that ds needs to be ready to go away to school (license, car, job etc.). get the possessions down to what will fill a POD for storage etc. etc. We plan to ultimately lead location independent lifestyles until we find somewhere we really like and want to stay. But first, plan to live in small apt. by my Mom who has a chronic illness, Doc says she is fragile.

So, to ensure I can have the funds for student driving course, car, graduation expenses, and student housing.....
I had talked to a manager about getting quals to fill on some of the many shifts they seemed to require staff for despite not "needing to hire" anyone. I found I needed for this because our shifts were cut back (leaving me wanting 2 shifts per pay period). I had decided "okay, I'll do this again-- I'll get back on the floor, deal with that stress etc. because at least then I'll be able to pay for xyz, tuition for my kid etc. Believe it or not, I was actually looking forward to it.

Well, my boss calls me in and basically tells me the cost of my needed training can't be absorbed by our department and there isn't likely a manager of a unit that would be willing to take on that cost considering I am only looking for a couple shifts per week (I was willing to up it to more shifts and be available fulltime for whatever training they felt I needed to do). Plus she asked me straight out if I had plans to move in the future with my husband working out of state. I'm an honest person so answered honestly. I told her that I planned to put my house on the market in the summer however, I did not expect that it would sell quickly, houses in my area tend to take about a year to sell. She conlcues that I could likely leave in the summer because she read some article stating real estate was doing better??? (puff pieces on the real estate market in our local newspaper). I tried to counter that with making the point about market sectors and the category of real estate--- the number she was quoting was too general to make the conclusion she made and our township is raising taxes by 9.8% etc. but she did not want to hear what I had to say. So basically, the hospital does not believe I am worth the investment of "training" (why I need to "train" for something I have done for 10 years is mind boggling) the critical training I would need would be the core-- cardiac telemetry. But this hospital like most all hospitals is very entrenched in the way they do things and will not consider alternate approaches. ANYway....

I felt pretty miserable about this. In addition, my energy level has been down the past 10 days and instead of being energized and sorting and culling, I have felt more a need to hold on to things. (where did that come from?). I feel like I have lost my momentum. With the 10 tons of snow falling, and relative socio-political shit flying, all I want to do is curl up with a good book and shut out the world. And I think I'm getting a cold. After the talk with my boss, suddenly I sense the negative aspect of Level 4 and trying to avoid it.

I am hoping this door being shut is not emblematic of my ability to get work when I move down to Tennessee. I am 45 and perhaps they don't want to invest in training me because I am older? I don't know why it should matter. Most nurses are in their middle age. Or maybe, I should take it that I've been there, done that and it is time I do what I really should-- write scads more. Work on wellness coaching and creativity/home cottage type stuff. I guess I feel discouraged right now because I am concerned my husband will be upset about my work situation, I'm feeling kind of down in the dumps and unmotivated. I know what I have to do but am having terrible difficulty in pushing myself to do it.

I suspect this month is a tough one. Usually after Christmas I always feel a great energy to clean up and get things together. I wonder if this is a merc retrograde issue or something bigger r/t Capricorn/Saturn? That light at the end of the tunnel? It seems dimmer now.

Well, I thank anyone who is reading it and able to sort through my rambling jumbled state of my life here.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 10:22 AM
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26. I am not too concerned about your state
because you are doing all you can do. That's what seems to matter to the outer planets i.e., that you try. You are definitely in stage 3 in my mind. I see no possibility of 4, but I am not omniscient.

Seriously, many clients report your style of difficulties now. Remember, much of individual "stuckness" now comes from the collective sickness that is rampant. We can't have collective sickness w/o getting some individual stuckness.

The reason you do well "after xmas" is that the Sun crosses the top of your chart, which is favorable.
Your entire chart is controlled by saturn. And that Saturn is on the operating table right now by Pluto, Mars, Uranus and Saturn itself. Meaning: up until now YOU HAVE LET EXTREME CAUTION rule you. That's the number 1 human illness.

However, by virtue of the fact that you are letting go of stuff, the main #1 indicator, you are doing the necessary PL work.
I am very encouraged by your situation. I don't KNOW, but I feel good about all of your effort. You will get loose of it all.
Your PL, Venus, Uranus in Virgo is very impatient. You want immediate results right now.

You can't give in to the incessant pressure of Virgo planets to GET THINGS DONE. You ARE getting things done on the physical plane but you are expecting "why aren't I free?" It doesn't work that way. Keep doing as you are but what's really important is that you LET GO OF THINGS BECAUSE YOU ARE READY TO, not because you SHOULD. "SHOULD" is the enemy keyword to all Virgo planets.

Once you get those two things separated, it should get easier. As I said in the last newsletter, as we get closer to March 11 when Uranus reenters Aries, it will get easier. THAT is when you really take off, as many of us will. That March 11 date will mirror the intial revolution that started on 5/27/10


You have a PHENOMENAL sense of service to others. Have faith that HE/SHE/IT will take care of you. You cannot control this. That's the key point. Call me if you wish.
Blessings


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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 10:00 AM
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25. Read this, an example, I just got in from a client....
Rick, talking with you is always so informative and having you as a conduit to whats "going on" is always helpful with understanding the twists and turns the planets create and how to "flow" with it. I believe my progress was based on getting rid of all the blockage that was stagnating me for so long...and then undestanding how to just then let it go! It has opened up my runway, for new and exciting adventures.

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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 05:31 PM
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29. How do I figure this out?
My natal chart says North Node at 00 degrees Capricorn, written interpretation, prefab spit-out paragraphs.

Asc node in Capricorn 0.47

Placidus orb: O
Capricorn in fifth house 6.15

Mars in Taurus Ninth house
Pluto in Leo

========
Does this tell you anything?

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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 07:59 PM
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31. I have no idea what that is
Pluto is squaring your Sun from the late 4th house, almost into the 5th house.

With your natal Saturn across from your Moon in Taurus, it indicates the REAL ARIES in you is having a hard time getting out!
This usually comes from, no kidding, parents who always said SHHHHHH, or in some way found your FIRE to be threatening.
Therefore, you learned either put your own light out or at least are very cautious about letting it shine.

With what PL is doing as well as URANUS IS HEADED RIGHT FOR OUR SUN, this is very exciting! It means that at some level, you are ready to shoot thru all that past caution, status quo, sameness, sameness and start owning the fire inside your Aries Sun!
Lookout! :hi:

Yes, 0 Capricorn also happens to be where your N. Node of the Moon is.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:46 AM
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34. Thanks Rick!
That's very cool. The career I ended up having, which was NOT creative, really fit into my outward conventional appearance of a Virgo rising.

I've always been a showbiz person. Took YEARS of music lessons, loved it, mastered two instruments, was in orchestra in high school and college, sang in church choirs, etc. Later took up acting as a natural offshoot.


Parents didn't think I could make a living in music/art. They told me I had to get a science degree, and not a social science degree, since they thought sociology/psych weren't really science.

My bachelor's and doctoral degrees did not get me a single job. Only the vocational degree got me a career and due to the stress from working at the courthouse, and being griped at by the occasional attorney or judge with anger management problems, I was quite burned out before I was 40. A lot of other court reporters resented me because I got two higher level degrees on top of the associate's degree. They didn't understand how higher education would make me a better court reporter, when they were mostly glorified secretaries.


If I had it to do over I would have gotten a BFA in painting. Fortunately I had a good art teacher in junior high who encouraged people to do their own thing. My thing at the time was psychedelic dayglo posters, commonly known as Fillmore posters (Fillmore Ballroom E & W). I was too young to be a hippie in the 60s. And I love Art Nouveau, which the psychedelic style is derived from.


What did I get degrees in ??? Boring stuff. AAS in Court Reporting, BA in Biology, Juris Doctor in Law. My dad was an attorney and I thought I was gonna practice law. That did not work out either.



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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 09:24 AM
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36. I wanted to get a degree in art and creative writing as well
But was told to do something "practical." I graduated high school in 1983, the economy sucked goose eggs. No jobs for the young. I was kind of pushed by my parents to go into the military. I joined but really it seared my soul so I concentrated on partying and have great fun & experiences. I was poor as a church mouse but didn't care! The military did not approve and promptly ejected me. I went to college but continued having fun. Eventually I had to "grow up" and be serious. Do serious things. I put it off as long as I could and I was in my later twenties. My cohorts were all busy building careers and becoming big important people. I got married and had a baby. Then went to nursing school rather than teaching because it was shorter (only 2 years) and nurses teach everyday... so much one can do in that profession... yadda yadda yadda.

In retrospect, I should have gone for the gusto in art school in the early 80s. The student loans and Pell was still relatively healthy. Even if I could not have found jobs doing exactly what I wanted, I would have made many personal connections that would have lead to something way less depressing and demoralizing than hospital nursing. Of course, if I had gotten into the sewn products industry I would have become jobless anyway as all industry r/t fiber left the country.

I wish I had gotten through my bachelor's (BFA) and Masters degrees. Last year I finally paid off my student loans but now it is time for my son to go to college. I feel like I had my time and passed it up. The tuition cost is too high now to return for my vanity. I've decided to just do what I wanted to go to school for without going to school for it.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:38 PM
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32. How does this look as far as the US's chart?
Curious to know how these planets firing up has do do with the current 'Dem revolt' and the question of how the rich get richer and the poor get poorer...
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:09 PM
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33. PL being opposite the USA's
Venus in Cancer is very serious but pales in comparison to the upcoming opposition to the Sun in a few years.
Opps to Venus are causing "revolutions" in our financial situation. The rot is being exposed at an unprecidented rate. The recovery is a myth that must be maintained else no re-election. As I said before, when the cancer patient is going through a serious operation, it's premature to talk about the recovery - even though that's what Cancerian Americans want/need to hear.
The best thing is to keep digging out and exposing our financial weaknesses. And replacing them.

This is why we are losing control of the money markets around the world, how long can we mask the fact that we are bankrupt.

Next comes the Sun, that's our very identity. Nuff said.

No magic here, it's all been said before, just as you have said, are we going to let AMERICACO rule or AMERICA.
Realistically, just how do you get the rich out of the pockets of the politicians? It really is an age-old question and is that simple. The difference "this time" is that you can't bs Pluto. "None shall pass!"

p.s. The Dem revolt, if you call it that, pertains to the Uranus approaching Aries. Again, it's the bought-off blue dems that we must turn around. It's all $$$
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 06:06 AM
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35. I wish...

There could be a movement in which We the People would join voices strongly enough to let politicians know that we will vote for them ONLY if they take zero money for their campaigns from corporations. In fact, the less advertising a politician has (other than free advertising at a grassroots level by volunteers distributing flyers and going door to door, and online viral campaigns), the better.

The amount of money spent on this last election was beyond obscene, yet people still accept it as necessary and business as usual, as though it can't change.

The inability for people to envision, let alone act on, real change blows my mind.

We'll only vote for politicians who take no business/corporate/lobbying money and those who support overturning Citizen's United, media reform and campaign finance reform.

They are The Ones we'll vote for.

We have to remove the corporate stranglehold, but joining together in unison is such a challenge. I still say with the availability of the Internet -- which is a modern phenomenon enabling us TO join together in unison -- we can figure this out.

We can figure out a way to have a positive impact and shift things on a large scale by joining together, as we simultaneously work locally on community.



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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 11:32 AM
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37. I vote for
ALL donations to everyone are to go through an anonymous accredited TRANSPARENT center and given to the recepients who are not allowed to know who gave the money.

That'll stop it all
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 11:42 AM
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38. That Citizen's United ruling was more appalling than I think we realize...
It affects all of this, with many tentacles reaching out to tighten that corporate grip on us. :(



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