Does anyone pick up what's going on with Obama?

[Sanity Claws]

I am one of the people who are appalled at the tax compromise that Obama worked out.
Does anyone pick up what's really going on here? Is there something going on behind the scenes that I don't see? Pressure on him by TPTB?

I ask because I am having problems believing how wrong I was about what his term would be like.

[get the red out]

1. I have an opinion, though no special abilities.

I think everything that has happened since he was elected smells of TPTB, personally. I really feel like his election will be the last one we will see that could be called even passably fair. He is probably struggling to hang onto anything he can since, despite the demographics being against them, the Republicans can have all the power they want in this country thanks to TPTB. Corporate money can buy lies on TV all day every day. There may never be enough independent thinkers again to get anything done through politics. And if there are I have little doubt that the big dogs behind the scenes will use "stiffer measures" if it comes to it.

Obama can have just a little of what he wants, just to keep us peons from wising up. There needs to be a short break between Repukes so that we all forget about the wars anyway, then time for more wars and more loot for Halliburton and their ilk. Onward Christian Soldiers.... sings the black project choir.

[Ricochet21]

2. He is going thru a major Neptune transit

that will last a long time, I'm sorry to say. He is being deceived by those around him. He is also falling into a typical Neptune trap where he rules out aggression. He has to be aggressive to deal with the wolves at his door. He is in dreamland. My 2 cents.

[Sanity Claws]

4. Tell us more about Obama's Neptune transit

What house is it in? What natal planets are affected?
I assume you are looking at O's chart and not the USA's chart.

[Ricochet21]

10. it's starting to square his Midheaven

from the 1st and is sitting on his S. Node. Then it will square his Moon in Gemini!

The midheaven is "where he is going" therefore, it is we are we headed?

The president of any co. or country exemplifies the body during his/her time in office.

He is trying to head us toward SPIRIT, shared resources and govt, etc. but the country is not evolutionarilly ready for him
he is playing the role of the martyr now. He knew he was in store for this. He is light-years ahead of other presidents but doesn't resonate with "Mightmakesright" type thinkers, you know, the ones that watch Fox and Mr. Peace, Glenn Beck-the-insane.

It'll be ok

It will get worse for Obama, much worse, but we have to have an EVOLUTIONARY crash before we can see how truly bankrupt we are, and I'm not talking about money, I'm talking about morally and spritually. WE all know this.

Then, we can get on board! Keep at it ASAH! :hi:

The reason we are all collectively so uncertain is because:
1. These are new roads we are traveling
2. We are leaving behind the lies of the past, you know, the crap the churches had us swallow for so long.

This is the New Renaissance - it has its martyrs

[BanzaiBonnie]

17. This is interesting Rick

I just read something he said about how the Republicans Do want what's best for the American people. Some words to that effect.

What my senses were telling me is that he is echoing what is in our future. It follows the NVC stuff I'n reading and working with right now.


I know this looks bad to some, but it may be leading us right into our future. And it may be the right way to go even though it looks bad for now.

[Ricochet21]

18. what is NVC?

[BanzaiBonnie]

37. sorry, I should have written it out..

Non Violent Communication ~ Marshall Rosenberg

I can't believe I had not come across Rosenberg' writings before this.

[rosesaylavee]

52. Reading that too... just finished reading his

Nonviolent Communication text and workbook with a group last night. We agreed that we're going to start with his 'The Surprising Purpose of Anger' next month after the holidays. Good stuff. I am not a master of it by any means. :P

[Why Syzygy]

54. Something feels like

propellant energy. Very much forward motion. The rocket has been launched.

[Gin]

19. he ruled out aggression even when in the Senate....no drama Obama

is worse than I thought it would be....being president shines the spotlight on the strenghts & weakness of the person in that position...for Clinton it showed he had morality issues....Obama appears to have weakness in dealing with others....it's easy to give away the farm...and he seems to take the easy way out.

I voted for a democrat and got the best republican president ever.

[southerncrone]

39. Oh, SH!T!!!!!

Could he just go play w/the kids for a while & let Biden take the helm......
We cannot afford lalaland now. :(

[Matariki]

48. Just like Sarah Palin, he has Sun square Neptune in his natal chart

That was always a potential cause for concern, imo.

[crikkett]

62. why? how?

:popcorn:

[Fire Walk With Me]

3. I would like to believe that the increasingly positive energy will make it ever more difficult

for the darkness to cause harm as it has been doing. Of course, in the energy of co-creation, those who wish to destroy will do so, but at deep cost to themselves...

Please let me know what you (everyone) thinks about this...I feel like I'm one of the only Obama supporters left. PC said that he is a true teacher. I see that some teachers must goad their students into action, if they won't get with the program, and we most certainly have failed to provide him with the support required for an en masse movement toward the positive. Obama may be teaching us healthy compromise, and the higher-dimensional characteristic of inclusion. PC mentioned, IIRC, that he would be putting all manner of persons in to his staff, and he certainly has, hoping for everyone to be shown that we can work together for a common good. It appears that we have chosen bipartisan struggle over the higher concept of helping ourselves toward a common good. In the future, there should be no politicians, only ourselves taking responsibility for ourselves with universal mandates and support for what is good and healthy. If Obama isn't attempting to direct us to these sorts of things, what is he doing? Am I off my rocker here, or is there so much trouble as people don't see what he's attempting to do for and with us? WE have to participate, and we haven't been, expecting him to do all of the work.

Obama has been absoltely correct in certain observations regarding overall trends and possibilities, and that is where I put most of my attention...he was correct regarding "this (2010) election...deciding the country's direction.." And now we have a new direction :/

[FirstLight]

5. I don't know, but

The latest thing that just came out of the White house is that Holbrook's last words about 'you've got to end this war in afganistan' was a JOKE! :wtf:

I am wondering whether he was replaced by a pod person somehow, because this is just so nuts i am shocked. NOT the man we all voted for!

perhaps the PTB really did sit him down in the early part of his term and tell him in no uncertain terms that he and his family will meet with an untimely demise of he doesn't play by their rules...
maybe it is all part of the shift and the demise of the US as a whole, for the corruption to begin to eat itself ...

:shrug: got me, I'm at a loss

[OneGrassRoot]

6. I'm at a loss, too.

He doesn't "feel" like the same person. He looks and feels so beaten down. I never thought Bush looked or felt beaten down, so I never had tremendous compassion for him.

I'm not happy with many of the choices and actions Obama is making lately, but I do have compassion and -- yes -- hope that something will happen to shift things or bring truth to light rather than the extreme clamp down on truth that continues.

I'm not even trying to approach things from a political/legislative perspective any longer; instead, I'm trying to brainstorm about ways to circumvent "the system," and thus in the process -- if enough join together -- eventually alter the current system or create another altogether.

Alternate realities. ;)

I will say I still support Obama in the sense that I want to give energy toward him doing the right thing. I support him doing the right thing. Of course, I am beyond frustrated because I don't feel that is what is happening with the big issues lately; his administration is providing more contrast of what we don't choose to experience.

They're doing good things, too, but the things many progressives don't agree with are taking center stage because they are rather HUGE.

Bottom line, I'm also at a loss. I continue to support him, as a human being, however.

[rucognizant]

61. bush wasn't beaten down because he is one of TPTB

Yes certain things did surprise him...but as a beneficiary,. he adjusted!
I agree about Obama......................I think his hands are tied badly, &I think he expected more out of us than he is getting. ( QWe judge others by ourselves.)He expected us to be brighter and better chess players than we are. & help him make a CHANGE!

[Ricochet21]

11. We all have to be

less reactionary

It only harms us.
Take a wider view.
shhhhhhhhhh

[Kind of Blue]

63. Thanks.

:thumbsup:

[kimmerspixelated]

75. That's what

I've always thought.The mafiosos got to him, whatever flavor they are.

[Delphinus]

7. I am so glad you asked

this question. As I was driving doing errands yesterday, this is exactly what I asked myself - WTF is going on? I was trying to remember the good things Matthew said and remember how excited I was about going forward with Obama as President.

[Ricochet21]

12. delete

[I Have A Dream]

14. She's responding to the Sanity Claws' OP, Rick.

Are you perhaps confusing this with your thread about Sun signs? If not, as Roseanne Rosannadanna said, never mind... :D

[I Have A Dream]

8. Don't know.

I'm more discouraged now than I've ever been since I've been politically active. When Bush was in office, I at least felt as though things would change if we could just manage to get a Democrat elected. Now that we have one, I don't see what can be done. Until now, I have pretty much tried to give President Obama's administration the benefit of the doubt. However, to me, this tax cut situation is beyond the pale. I feel as though the scales have fallen from my eyes.

I don't know what is going on. I don't know if it's been a sham all along, whether President Obama truly believes that this is the way things have to be, whether he's being coerced, or something else. I'm not judging President Obama himself at this point except to say that I no longer feel as though there's any hope that things will change unless there's a major paradigm shift in the way Americans see the world. I had hoped that they'd wake up when things got bad because of Bush's bad policies. Instead, they just blame the Democrats, as though they have completely had their memories erased. (I can't tell you how much I absolutely abhor and despise Fox News. :grr:)

:cry:

Oh, and just as I was getting ready to post this, I realized that Stevie Wonder's "Saturn" was playing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLHI-Y_RJGA

That song is spot on about a large percentage of Earthlings. :(

[OneGrassRoot]

9. ...

"...there's any hope that things will change unless there's a major paradigm shift in the way Americans see the world."

I hear you, my friend.

:hug: :hug: :hug:

:loveya:

[Ricochet21]

15. absolutely not

the shift has to occur OR ELSE WE STAY MIRED IN PLUTO'S POISONOUS FINDINGS.

We CANNOT stay in the past, that's why God gave us you and Wishadoo along with other things like Starself, etc.

We must spit out the bad taste.

WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE FACT THAT LOVED ONES all around us are sinking. We can love them and be love around them.
That's it.

:grouphug:

[Ricochet21]

13. I don't KNOW if we've been had or not

I've been watching this question (His tSQUARE to Neptune in his ninth house) since the beginning. I don't want to guess.

The point is he only point, are WE going to continue to allow CORPORATE America to own us or not? That's the PLuto question that will
dominate all until 2023.

Puppets are puppets; we must find a way to stop this or we all go belly-up, I think.

An astrologers dilemma: What does one do under a major Neptoon transit?

answer: Always, let go and let God.

That's the only way I know to answer Astrology's toughest question.

That does NOT mean roll over and play dead, that means: use love, that's all there is
all of us

:hi:

[kimmerspixelated]

16. Use Love, that's what we have to do...

Can there be LOVE in the WH?? I guess this could be the start of a a punchline, but I really do wonder how things are ever going to be different in this country. TPTB, I have thought all along- the mafiosos had him by the short hairs. Obama is a good man caught in a trap, at least it feels like that.
But I don't think we will see any hope in any future elections. The power behind the Fall of 2008 is history. If Obama couldn't help us, who could??

[Ricochet21]

20. If there can't be LOVE in the WH

then, it's empty. Because the Course in Miracles says that there is love or it is false and doesn't exist.
It is an illusion.

We have only one choice. Bombard the WH, Congress, everyone with love. Whatever form it takes. Taking sides and fight has historically been proven to NEVER WORK. IT NEVER WORKS. IT CAN'T because it is divisive.

We must make a way that we turn the tides and get everyone on board. THEY ALL KNOW ANYWAY that only love works.

Maybe that will the stepchild of Wishadoo.com WWW.ONLYLOVEWORKS.COM (the web domain IS available, the the way)

what an idea :hi:

We must stop thinking in their ($) terms and start thinking in (heart) terms.

[OneGrassRoot]

29. It's not available any more...

;)

I resonate with words, and thus collect domain names like others collect trinkets. ;)

Maybe Only Love Works shall be our collective project, Dear Sir.

I've been almost obsessed with HEARTS WIDE OPEN for the last year. ONLY LOVE WORKS is a similar vibe.

Something delightful and profound this way comes....

:hi:

[Grateful for Hope]

22. I heard a segment on NPR as I was driving home from work tonight

It was about the uptick in consumer spending this season, with a twist. It appears that change is already occurring (as compared to the Fall of 2007 and before) in respect to how they spend. It seems that we are coming out of the recession because people are now spending again. But, people are spending much more wisely than they did prior to the Fall of 2007. They have paid off debt, they are comparison shopping, and they are setting limits on the number of gifts they buy for their kids, etc.

I think change is already occurring. It's in small incremental steps, but it's there.

As far as Obama is concerned, I think he is doing the best he can. It's no secret that he is a strong proponent of "community", and, I think in his mind this means compromise -- even if that compromise means that there has to be agreement to things that are reprehensible in his mind in order to "win" what he really cares about.

I might be dreaming, but I continue to think that he believes in what he is doing.

:hi:

[I Have A Dream]

33. I really want to believe in him, Hope.

I HOPE you're right! ;)

:hi:

[mysticalchick]

21. SC, good question ...

... and I'm glad to hear what others think about it all. It hurts my heart to think that he could turn on us, those who know change is needed and fought for his election. I still refuse to believe that (little Obama-bot that I am) because so much from so many sources that I trust has indicated otherwise. Matthew, for one, David Wilcock, for another and Nancy, over at Starlight Press, who looks at things astrologically, is yet another. None of them say this shift will be easy. NONE. I keep thinking what happens if those of us who are holding up the light put down our torches? What then?

My solution is to trust what I feel even when a million people are telling me otherwise. I don't read a lot of blogs right now because the fighting is just horrendous. I get that people are angry and upset. I cannot believe we are where we are. Yet, we are. So, I hold my light up where I can and keep walking. IHAD holds hers, OGR hers and so on and so on. This year, I've tried to do more to benefit those locally and I've donated more than I ever have. Holding up that light.

So, keep sending light and love to President Obama. I think at heart he's a good man in a very awful position albeit one he asked for.

[Grateful for Hope]

23. So agree with this:

"So, keep sending light and love to President Obama. I think at heart he's a good man in a very awful position albeit one he asked for."

:hi:

[Saokymo]

24. He looks so tired now.

Not just tired, but weathered, beaten down. You can tell the poor man is exhausted by the job he took on. He's surrounded by such a thick cloud of constant noise -- public perception, media spin and more than one shady adviser -- that he's become disconnected from the rest of reality for it.

If I could give him one thing and one thing only, it would be a quiet moment to allow him to get back in tune with the higher truths. There is still hope. There is ALWAYS hope. We just have a long, hard fight ahead of us before we get there.

[OneGrassRoot]

27. I agree...

about him looking so beaten down, and about there always being hope.

:hug:

[NuttyFluffers]

25. OK, i'm sooo far out compared to others. Obama is here to crash land the country safely.

i've felt this since his campaign. that's why i was sad and glad to vote for him. even when stuff was occurring to show him to be far too accommodating and centrist for my tastes, i laughed with others confident in Obama getting elected -- but for a very different reason. whereas people believed in him fixing things, i always thought that ship has sailed and the best we can have is a calm and steady pilot crash land this burning plane we call USA empire. further, his level-headedness and compromise in the face of direct exposure of evil should galvanize people to wake up. there is no way to be happy about either thing: crashing and burning, or exposed that it's all a sham -- but what is necessary does not always lead to happiness.

we need an unflappable pilot to keep alive as many victims on the plane as possible. and he's perfect for that job.

i am disgusted by all these compromises and capitulations to evil because that's what the time is for. we are here to vomit out all the accumulated evils of our age. part of that is drawing a line in the sand and stating what you will NOT abide by. yeah, yeah, yeah, love everybody, shine it from every pore, shine it from your ass, etc -- but please, you can still shine love at people without having to embrace and sink into oblivion with them. it's just common sense. there will be many people who WILL NOT go gently into that night -- and no, you have no power to force them along with you. all you can do is know where YOUR LIMITS ARE.

and i found mine. and i have to process this disconnecting from groups and ideals that no longer work. perpetual compromise is one of those for me. you can only join in oneness as long as the harmonics are compatible. otherwise one resonance MUST drown out the other. and if that means you have to isolate yourself from discordance in order to find your sense of resonance, then so be it. because without such you'll find it impossible to attune yourself to similarly compatible resonances and thus create a choral harmonic. basically, it's time to discard the bad people and thinking in all our lives, and replace them with more nourishing people and ideas. it's time to stop being in love with the evil and the hateful, and replace it with being in love with the good and the loving.

so i see Obama here as someone to gently land all this craziness while we all learn to disconnect from the discordant poisons in our lives. no, that never meant he was here to bring us to material prosperity -- after 1999 i knew in my heart of hearts that that will never return to us as long as this TPTB system remains. i cheered when Obama won because it meant there'd be no civil war, violent dissolution of empire as it would have under McCain/Palin. but i never believed we'd rise again and shine like some post-WWII phoenix. his job is thankless because he's here to disillusion everyone, for our own safety.

but that does not mean i have to stifle my sense of self and merrily go along. i don't support making nice with these politically venomous opponents -- but then i am not karmically tasked to do so. i am thus tasked that if i don't like what's going on, it's time to find like minded others and ORGANIZE. that's what we are all tasked to do (those of us not having to pilot the flaming plane). we are tasked to be offended, to reject this sick order, and to choose love instead. our connection in love will sustain the survivors as they crawl from the rubble of the crash landing. only then can the rest of the space family, spirits, and whatever can welcome us into their loving arms.

we are tasked to turn our back on stinkin' thinkin' and practice new lovin' feelin'.

[Sanity Claws]

26. wow -- that is interesting

I agree with so much of what you said and just never put all those pieces together like that.

[OneGrassRoot]

28. I love you...

No, seriously. This is brilliant on so many levels, and I think I agree. Especially the "shine it from your ass" part. :rofl:

Yeah, I don't think I ever believed Obama would DO anything specifically to save the day; though I have had faith he is one of those who is preventing something more horrific. We're the ones to do it. We really are.

:hug:

:yourock:

[BanzaiBonnie]

30. Thank you NuttyFluffers

What you've said is really helpful in looking at the big picture.

Just as Bush was the right person to throw fuel on the fire to the old ways, Obama is the one to bring this ship in.

If I'm looking at this play out from my head, it looks bad. If I look at it from my heart... I still believe Obama is being true to who he is. Although I see him being fooled by some stinkers.

[liberalmuse]

32. I have to agree with this.

I think many of us knew that what you are saying here was true, but didn't want to believe it. It's karma, or whatever one wants to call it. This is one reason he was one of my last choices for President, but once I got behind the man, I was very impressed because in spite of everything, this man strives to do good and be honorable.

Oh yes, I'm struggling with disillusionment, but that's my own damn fault for expecting a human being to become a superhero. My god, we human beings have been doing this crap since the beginning of time - Zeus, Jesus, Superman, Spiderman, etc. - desperately seeking "Salvation" outside of ourselves. We want someone to save us from ourselves and the sh*t we've perpetuated by our own short-sighted and misguided actions because we don't have all the facts and our minds tend to make up fantasies and we're convinced it's the truth. But that isn't going to happen.

It's a cliche that even President Obama has repeated, but we truly are the ones we've been looking for. Am I happy with what I'm seeing coming out of the Obama White House? No, not really. But I'm not going to demonize the man. He seems to be the scapegoat for everything we've allowed to happen, yes, WE, and all the instant gratification we've traded again and again in lieu of long term security. It sucks to reap what you've sown, and that is why human beings like their scapegoats, human sacrifices and saviors. Otherwise we'd have to look within, face some real hard facts and make some difficult changes.

[Ricochet21]

34. I don't know how you did it

but that's precisely what all the charts add up to and show.
Very well done. :hi:

[Bluestar]

35. You are sooooo correct, NF

I was told by my spirit guides that he was here to give us a "soft landing" because that is what the people of earth chose.

To add a little more, I agree that we have been looking for a savior and have said that on this board before. In the new world, there are no saviors, as we are our own saviors. We weren't ready for it before, but we are now.

I think it is not so much about sending love (shining it OOYA or otherwise) but more about understanding and using our own power. When we stand up to these dark souls we must exercise our love-based power, not send love and then cower at the punishment they will deal us. We are infinitely more powerful now than we ever were, as the energy shift has rendered the dark souls power-less. Perhaps Obama is supposed to learn the power part from us. When we are finally fed up enough, lightworkers on an individual basis will stand up to the dark souls in their own world. Obama will see that grass roots movement and will start exercising his own power. At any rate, we are not to look for leadership, we must provide our own.

[southerncrone]

40. NF, what a wonderful way of describing this.

I've felt like BO was given the flashlight to shine on all the critters hiding in dark places, so all could see them. His job was to expose them. This is what keeps me hanging on to hope that we have not been sold down the road. The Scorpion in me can't help but be a tad bit paranoid that we were sold some "magic beans", instead of gaining a leader who will give us HOPE.
There have been too many "concessions" made that simply give the Repukes what THEY want, while we progressives (who sent him $ & worked to elect him) are left hanging.

My hope is that there is a "method to this madness". Some how things are being lined up behind the scenes & we will have a great "unveiling" of the evil ones & their deeds. Like this is a giant chess match & we can't see the outcome yet, but BO's strategy is complex & on target.

Perhaps we must become completely disgusted & disenchanted w/this system (including BO) to make changes that need to be made. Maybe this will be part of the complete dismantling of this system so a new one might be built. Just hope we do have a softened landing.
Just found this in GD...seems to fit my theory:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x8902


For starters, we need to reduce our dependence on China. Stop buying stuff made there. Do without, if need be. Start up small shops locally to replace what they are making & sending here. It can't be about profit, but cutting off the steady flow of our $ into their war chest. I feel there will be a big turn around in the next year concerning our consumption of their goods.....people will finally wake up.....just hope it isn't a form of disaster.

[lildreamer316]

41. Now that's a perspective I can get on board with.

Thank you for saying it so well. :hug:

[bigmonkey]

49. Obama's not going to get us flying again, but he's the man we need to safely land the flaming plane.

That's how I'd compress what you're saying. Really good, that resonates with me. I really have no appetite for rear guard actions, but I am glad someone does.

[silverweb]

69. A wonderful analysis.

I've felt for a long time that Obama knows he will not be able to really change all that much, but he is determined to at least keep the ship of state fairly steady in rough seas.

Your analysis and metaphor are far better because there's a resolution (landing safely) rather than just hanging on.

Brilliant. Thank you!

[Cleita]

31. I've been feeling that he has been compromised

somehow. I don't know if he received threats or if he got a different view of how things are when he entered the Oval Office and became privvy to our hidden national secrets. He's also in over his head. No matter how intelligent one is, there is a lack of experience in governing that he brought to the job and he has relied on advice from so-called experts who actually don't have the best advice to give. That's what is coming through to me although I haven't really looked for insight like meditating or doing a Tarot throw. Maybe when personal things around me calm down to a low roar and I can concentrate on it I will try to go deeper into what is going on with him. Also, I don't believe relying on the Clintons for help is his best option either.

[glinda]

56. Am getting the same read. I also see dark energy and conflict. But still somewhere a

small lit flame of hope.
I do not think he is as strong or experienced as some thought. He is awfully quiet. Almost like a silent by stander. Which in fact he may be now that the Banks and Wall Street actually control the WH. So he has to try to guide from an outsider position but look like a figurehead.
I have sensed for about 5 years now, massive change. Not good change. Then again, we have reached the critical pivot point. Do or die. Will we as a world, make a movement to enact change or will we just end up under the same path which will lead to spiritual and physical destruction?
We in the most important time in World History. It will take a mass consciousness to rise above it. An awareness of all integrated together for the larger picture. And then it will take swift action.

There will be much blood along the way. But there might be a new world if we deem it so.

[BanzaiBonnie]

36. Thanks to those who have responded to this post

I love that so many of you chose to respond to this.

All the comments taken together help give a bigger picture than if there were only a few comments. It takes all of us together for the whole experience.

[nenagh]

38. I found myself wondering about the same question, but from a diff perspective.

I read that Pres Obama has given up cigarettes, and so wondered if he had been prescribed a Smoking Cessation aid to help him stop the cravings for nicotine. A side effect of the medication I'm thinking of can be weight loss.

I dispensed medication for years and some people did very well on this medication, but a great friend of mine who also worked with me in the Pharmacy tried this medication to stop smoking. Her craving for nicotine stopped after a number of days. Great.

Unfortunately this lovely woman underwent a personality change when on the medication for nearly a week...she became quieter, almost withdrawn, more irritable and she nearly became somewhat suspicious.. her laughter disappeared. It fell to me to tell her as a friend that the drug was making her different and when she went off the med and back to smoking she returned to being the same cheerful person she had always been.

But why I write this is because my friend may have sensed that something wasn't right.. but she really had no perception of the depth of the change she had undergone.

I do sense a change in Pres Obama: Where has his joy gone? and because of his struggles with smoking... and my friend's experience.. just wonder if this is a side effect of trying to stop smoking.

Edit to say that a person prescribed this common medication for Smoking Cessation is on it for many months.. commonly 3months.

[OneGrassRoot]

42. That's an interesting possibility, nenagh...

For some reason, for people in positions such as President Obama, I tend to neglect considering there may be straightforward physical reasons for changes we perceive.

:hi:

[nenagh]

43. Hi OneGrassRoot...

It is not that I disagree with any of the above..

Since having cancer, and being lucky enough to attend a lecture series called 'The Healing Journey' which often ended in meditations, visualizations with the thought of... bringing in the light.. For a long time I couldn't find the light :(

So now, I am searching, and reading and learning .. and enjoy this forum.

But, wondering about Pres Obama, and reading about the efforts his Dr's seem to be putting into getting him to quit smoking..

I really could not help but worry about the above. With Dr's wanting him to quit.. who is there to say, this stuff is changing your personality.. or to be more CT.. interfering with his real cognitive abilities..

I remain worried, from my perch just north of the St. Lawrence Seaway.. and try to send positive and even healing thoughts to you all who struggle and try so hard...

Take Care and Best because I'm delighted to say I was Born in the USA :)

[OneGrassRoot]

44. Bless your heart....

I didn't realize you're in Canada until just now. Brrrrrrrr.............

Thanks for being here and sending positive vibes our way.

Warm hugs sent your way....:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

[nenagh]

45. Thank You OneGrassRoot..

It is frigid outside.... but I am lucky.. to be here :)

It changes a person's perspective.. and I have much to learn..

The journey is creating much satisfaction.. and thank you all for creating this forum where you all can recharge your batteries... I have noticed just how supportive you all are of each other..

And that is wonderful. Take Care. And thanks for helping me learn.

It is here that I first learned about Matthews Messages :)

[glinda]

57. I forgot to add that I had wished him to get a drug test from an outside source. I see indicators

of personality and drug interaction. But never before did I equate this with the cessation medication. Would make sense.
As someone who has had Chemical issues around me my whole life, I am sensitive to this. I see this in him and have for a few months now. His ability to perceive reality is affected. I just do not know how much.

[BlueIris]

46. After it's over, I'll post what I "know."

For the last two years, I have been getting the distinct impression from my own intuition that it is not safe to post what I have been picking up about him or his situation. (So please don't PM me.)

As I've posted before, these impressions are not pretty. I will be very interested to see what others have to contribute at that time.

[mysticalchick]

47. After what's over, BI?

Wasn't sure what you meant as far as a time line and I won't PM you, I promise!

[BlueIris]

51. I have a strong feeling

that we are about to get an explanation for a lot of what's gone down these past few months. After these revelations have come out, I'll post my impressions.

[Fire Walk With Me]

53. People =know= that there are ugly, greedy people and structures in place in this country

and that these are plotting with similar people and structures around the world...but to actually see it, to have some level of actual proof of any amount of the ugliness going on "behind the scenes", would and will be shocking. Like getting the wind knocked out of us. America has a tremendous amount of change to do, has a lot of very negative karma...keep praying for it to be with ease and grace.

[MagickMuffin]

50. Yes, Obama and the rest of us

As a candidate Barack campaigned on Change, Hope and the Yes WE can slogan. I watched every rally he held on C-SPAN, never missed a one. Even went to see him and people were lined up for blocks to get in. It was truly amazing.

During all of his speeches he would talk about the Change. He always stated that Change Starts From the Bottom UP. He didn't ever say I am the change you are looking for. He instead explained how change works. He told us to get involved within our communities. To help wherever we could. He never said change would be easy. He always said change is hard work.

I find it funny and kinda sad that people never LISTENED to what he was saying at the time. Instead they bitch and moan about how they voted for change and they aren't seeing any change. Yet, have they gotten off their collective asses and donated time to their communities?!? Have they gone and volunteered to help out those less fortunate than themselves?!? I can't stand to come to DU very much especially the political forums here as I see so much hate and misdirected anger. And most of this discontent was there before the election and never went away. I don't know if it's because of Barack's skin color ( yes there are racist within the Democratic Party, I know I talked to them over the phone and they flat out told me they were not going to vote for that N****er ) or because they wanted Hillary so badly that they never gave him much of a chance.

I often wonder what and how much concessions Barack made to Hillary to get her to drop out at the Convention. I think he probably made a lot. Especially since he placed so many ex-Clinton staff in Cabinet positions. I lost a little bit of my hope when I saw how many Clintonites he placed within his Cabinet. I think that is where the compromise started. Unfortunately, he wanted to change Washington, but realized that as a single person he could not do so. It's interesting how many GD-DUers think things would be different if Hillary had won. I promise you it would have played out just as it is being played out now, or perhaps worse. Who knows?!? I do know it wouldn't have been that much different.

As far as the current compromise Barack made concerning the tax cuts. Yes, it pissed me off that the wealthy once again get away with being selfish. Yes, it benefits mostly the wealthy republicons in Congress as most of them would be effected as they are multimillionaires, that's why they fought so hard for this. But, looking at the bigger picture which is what Barack did, he did so to provide UI to millions of Americans who would have lost their benefits and would have suffered if he didn't make this compromise. So, we must continue to look at the bigger picture.


But as NuttyFluffers stated so well, We must be the Light to shine throughout the darkness. We must offer our Love and Light to those who are without Light. As I have stated before as a Rosicrucian during our meditation period we are to send Love and Light to ALL humanity. I struggled to think about sending it to the hatemongers. But I found that it was easier to think about their hate as a mental illness, and therefore I could overcome this obstacle within my own failings. Before I came to that realization, I would see myself floating above the Earth and see myself pouring a bucket of raindrops / teardrops of Pure Love and Light. These droplets of PL&L fell on everything. It provided the Earth, the people, the animals, the plant, the heavenly bodies of water, and the minerals with the much needed PL&L that I could muster. Now, I can send this same PL&L with the same intensity to even those who make me wish they could really look into their hearts and Change their hateful ways. Regardless, I send them Light hoping that just by me sending it that it will penetrate the darkness just a little bit. It certainly can't hurt, and who knows if we each continue to shine Light and Love to these people perhaps it will eventually have an impact.


I will continue to support our President. Even though I don't agree with everything he has done, I think he is trying to do what is the best for America.


PS: I have also seen ASAHers spewing hate toward the President. It really makes me sad that they have such a hardened heart :cry: I send them Pure Love and Light as well, as they might seek the benefit of my gesture and realize being President is never easy and can't please everyone individually.

[Fire Walk With Me]

59. ...

:thumbsup:

[FirstLight]

55. My friend/mentor had a good observation

she said he is not old enough to know how to take his ideals and hold them strong and get them turned into something concrete. it's a 'wisdom-keeper' thing, that he lacked the experience, not so much in government, but just LIFE experience of how to hold fast and be concrete in his own self.
like he is still too 'malleable' to be a leader...

does that make sense to anyone here?

[Ricochet21]

58. Thats EXACTLY what I

see in his chart, hard to put into words.

[Lindsey]

60. NF, great take on this. Thanks. n/t

[Celebration]

71. yep, I agree

He's more in alignment with his wife who started the organic garden at the White House than with the Monsanto crowd like the Sec of Agriculture he appointed, but he tries to straddle the fence. Just too wishy washy..........

[Why Syzygy]

64. Almost a year later ..

and a year of many many challenges... where are we now?

[OneGrassRoot]

65. I don't know what/how to think/feel about Obama as president...

not on a personal level as it pertains to him.

I still think the system(s) must change; whoever gets into office is, essentially, a puppet, in my opinion. Some can be worse than others about social issues, but when it comes to our foundational systems, it's going to be essentially the same until those systems are replaced with ones of integrity.

That said, I do think that the disappointment many feel toward Obama, having expected him to make more changes that many wanted (myself included), has been a key trigger in the development of Occupy.

As trite as it sounds, his inability or unwillingness -- depending on one's perspective -- to manifest large-scale, sweeping change has been a catalyst for the YES WE CAN movement.

It really is up to us, and it's like people finally realized that when Obama didn't do what many wanted.

For that, I am tremendously grateful to him; I have a feeling that may indeed have been one of his primary goals here on Earth, perhaps even consciously. He has, inadvertently (?), been a catalyst for tremendous change from the ground up.

:)



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[Proud_Lefty]

66. Beautifully said. Thanks.

I always felt this way, but could never spell it out so well. :hi:

[findrskeep]

67. I totally agree with this theory 100% OGR...

Just recently I've noticing Obama seems to be "taking off the gloves" at least in how he's speaking out. And all of a sudden I heard, "We are the ones we've been waiting for"..the same thing Obama used to say during his campaign and also the message from the Hopi. I do believe he was the catalyst for a lot of people waking up, finally stepping up to the plate, i.e. the OWS movement. It feels to me that now that we're starting to stand up to the PTB, that's what has given Obama the go ahead to begin to get a bit more firm, at least more than he has been. However, IMHO there's a lot more room to get a lot tougher. But regardless, all of what is happening now and up to now is designed for the sole purpose to get us to wake up. The divide is getting wider, the polarity more extreme and it will continue.

[MorningGlow]

68. Puppet-in-chief

Absolutely, OGR. I have always felt that he firmly believed in everything he said while campaigning. But, as I've said before several times in ASAH, when I saw him walk down the hall just before his inauguration, I KNEW a large change had taken place in him. At first I tried to explain it away as his being overawed by the gravity of the situation, but I knew that wasn't it. He was downright terrified.

I "saw" why immediately: After he won the election, he was taken aside by TPTB and "schooled" in how things work (just like every president in the past 60 years). And he was also told the price he would pay if he didn't toe the line--the health and safety of his loved ones. Since then he's been walking a very fine line--trying to get things done while not jeopardizing the safety of anyone he holds dear. It's an uphill battle, and it's exhausting him. Sucks, but there it is. He simply CAN'T speak his mind, do what he wants (even if he were the only person calling the shots; let's not forget the votes of the House and Senate--we're not a dictatorship), or do what WE want him to do.

Our government is not "of the people, by the people, for the people". It's "of the fat-cats, by the corporations, for the 1%". Obama knows this, but his hands are tied.

So yeah, we do need a new system from the ground up. As soon as humanly possible!

[Proud_Lefty]

70. MG, this is also spot on!

Watching Obama's journey has been disheartening. He promised such change, and right after his inauguration, he started implementing many of them. He had more than twenty of his promises underway within a month. But something abruptly stopped him and these changes from moving forward. Then the Fox News/Republican politicians/Tea Partiers' vilified every single positive change Obama worked on. Not only were these positive changes stopped, Obama was somehow hated for trying to do positive things by the right and hated by the left for not pushing his promises through, even though he had come to realize that it doesn't work like that and won't ever happen like that under the current system.

I've always had the feeling that Obama really cares about doing what's right. He seems to work very carefully to get us closer to what we want without taking himself out of the game. It's not easy and he seems to be the perfect person to be in that position right now.

[Ricochet21]

72. Looking back on it now, I still see it the same

Obama brought in the Jupiter/Neptune/Chiron era. As soon as he did, Teddy Kennedy passed the torch and passed away.
This doesn't mean that Obama is a saint; far from it. He heralded the MOMENT. This is largely indicated by a T-square to Neptune in Obama's ninth house - the house of philosophy. I've been asked so many times about him, and indirectly, about this configuration.

Obama wobbles because of his Moon in Gemini at the bottom of his chart. But, the Neptune in the IX indicates either he's really
channeling peace or is very deluded for power itself. A similar power need of delusions by Neptune IS found clearly in Beck and Palin's charts.

Whatever. Obama came to us when WE were ready to start hearing Neptune's spiritual call. He need do no more. Remember this very clearly, whatever happens to any leader's chart happens to the country as a whole.

With Neptoon, it's a always a crazy mixture between delusions of grandeur, getting lost, uncertainty and answer the call to the Universe. All at once.

[wovenpaint]

73. Agree completely

I too noticed the look on his face and have been saying this same thing all along. He has to do what he's told..."they have his family".
So, I try not to feel betrayed-and stubbornly cling to hope for a better future...
:hi:

[kimmerspixelated]

76. Yes, for this reason,

Sometimes, I think everything is falling into place just as he had actually planned. With an eye on the end result, you don't worry about the methods or the hows. He may get more of what he wanted for us by quietly cheerleading US to our own victory.

[get the red out]

78. I agree

To be honest, I do not expect much out of any politician. Well, I take that back, I expect a LOT out of Republicans; like racism, sexism, Church and State becoming one under Xtian Fundamentalism, an end to reproductive rights, immigrants treated like animals, the poor in general treated like animals, the list could go on with what I fully expect from Republicans.

From Democrats, who do not own the media, are battling big monied interests, have to deal with corporations now being considered people, and having to get re-elected so they can at least be officials who aren't as bad as Republicans? I have trouble expecting much there.

The 99% folks have my hopes up a tad more than they have been; and I think they are having an effect (positive) on the President as well. I just haven't believed we still had a functioning democracy in quite a while, so staving off the Fundamentalists a small bit was all I hoped for.

[japple]

74. Just look at how much he has aged in 3 years.

[DeSwiss]

77. I'm trying to remain: ''in it, but not of it.''

- So to speak......

We guide ALL to process ALL information through the heart and to see the TRUTH that is below the smoke and mirrors for all is NOT as it seems across the world. The leaders that have left the planet look like they have been “taken out” when in TRUTH the vibration they held is not supported by the new. This will increase and look “normal” dear ones, it can be no other way. Those who were misled by illusion of the ascension which would see paradise laid out at YOUr feet in an instant are now beginning to realise how illusion took their power from them. The power that is NOW is the power that is worked with dear ones. The paradise is in full view but those in illusion will not be able to FEEL it. Everything is in full view; it depends on the level of filter the human applies to the view. Do you understand our analogy dear ones? Do you understand our words?

To fight over wrong and right is to try to live in illusion and that energy is no longer supported by the new. We ask that ALL are aware of this and ALL begin to focus on the human life experience that they wish to create. Much is lost in the sense of power to be pulled back into the illusion of same, for it does not exist dear ones.

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The American Presidential Election in 2012

Now, before we end this essay. We will speak briefly about the election occurring in November of 2012 in the United States. We will not predict a winner, but we will tell you that it is an extremely important time. We will say that President Obama is a soul of the greater light, and offers a better road for the United States. The election will be difficult for him, but the better probability lies in his re-election. But it is not a certainty, many factors are at play. The future is ever a moving target, and in this scenario it is not our role to foresee the outcome, for this outcome remains a choice, and is not yet determined. We will say that Obama is a man that is more concerned with the care of all of the citizens. Yet the United States is still many decades away from having a true representation in its government.

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[kimmerspixelated]

79. Thanks for the site link!

The information presented there was very enlightening and interesting.

[DeSwiss]

80. You're welcome.

- This one which I also think is relevant to this topic, is from today:

We wish to address faith with you. For most of you, faith is all you have. You have not seen us, not communicated with us, have no real knowledge of our existence outside of these messages. You have not been taken aboard our craft, have no real way of knowing whether any of the messages that have come through, be they from the Federation or from spiritual sources, or otherwise, are anything other than the imagination of those who write the words down on paper. Yet, you accept them because your heart tells you that they ring of the truth you have been denied from other sources. This is faith. It is no less powerful for you than it is for any one of a religious persuasion. And in that sense, you must always stay vigilant about what is heard from us and from those who would purport to be us and also from those who rightfully criticize these words as outsiders.

You have taken on faith your task to move forward into the new age of existence. Either you will be proven right in the coming year or so, or you will have to re-evaluate everything that you are. Either way, you have woken up to a reality beyond your wildest imagination. A world not filled with static things, but of movable energies that coexist with your

We stand firm in our position that everything we have told you is real and is of the truth. You must accept what you can and discern the rest as you see fit. On this point you have the free will and the choice. Only you can make these decisions. Do you stand behind a leader of a first world country who we have repeatedly told you will be the one to lead you successfully out of the grips of the Illuminati, or do you succumb to the pressures of the “real world” and believe what is told you from those sources? Again, the choice is yours. And remember always, you create your own reality at all times. Let there be no mistake about that. You are in charge of your own destiny. No one else.

You will shortly be seeing a major display of our ships in a large city of a European country as an affirmation from us that we are here, we know your concerns, we know your fear, we know your pain and your discontent. Let this be our measure of comfort for you, our friends It is always darkest before the dawn. This was never to be an easy trail to follow but you have done so magnificently. We cannot be more proud of you. We have just such a little ways more to go and you will indeed begin to see that we mean business.

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