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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 06:51 PM
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Here is why the Lunar Eclipse combined with transiting Pluto will manifest on 12/25
1. Pluto is sitting around 5 Capricorn, and has been more or less for months.
2. It sets off a "force field" (for lack of a better term) in the last few degrees of Sagittarius and the first 7 or so of Capricorn.
3. Its force field stretches its effect to the opposite half of the zodiac, the latter degrees of Gemini and first 7 or so of Cancer. Same is true for the right angle (square) late Virgo, first 7 of Libra and late Pisces, first 7 of Aries)
4. So, we see the existing persisting tension of Pluto in those degrees. It's like a sore spot, four of them in fact.
5. The Lunar eclipse happens tonight at 29 Gemini, triggering all 4 areas.
6. THEN, over the next 5 days, the Sun will travel from 29 Gemini to 0 Cap, to 1 Cap, to 2 Cap, to 3 Cap and finally to 4 CAPRICORN.

At that point, The Sun will be within one degree of joining up with Pluto at 5 Capricorn. This will RELEASE the effects that the Lunar Eclipse is having on those 4 spots. The Sun and Mar are triggers that alway trigger from 1 degree away.

This will continue on 12/26 as the Sun joins Pluto exactly, but usually, the significant date is when it is nearing from 1 degree, or, Christmas Day.

This is powerful for everyone, but especially for anyone who has a planet in one of those 4 areas or the midheaven, or nadir, or ascendant or descendant.

I would have drawn a diagram but it takes too long.

The eclipse IS NOT OVER when you see the Moon reappear, it's effects go on for months.
As has been said, it can bring about "wonderful" or "awful" or "mild" results. In my opinion after years of research, I think eclipses are impossible to predict. Since it happening during this phase of "the death of codependency", I think that same theme will be extended. Look for BIG turning points within families in terms of those who are too dependent.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 06:33 PM
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1. Thanks, I musta missed this post before.
Are my planets in one of those positions?
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:43 PM
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4. No
your planets and angles are not directly involved.

Even so, these massive forces express their energies in four houses of each of our charts. :hi:
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 06:02 PM
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13. Got it!
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 06:53 PM
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16. Good
now explain it to me :hi: :rofl:
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wickfordbard Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:04 PM
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2. RE: great post, Rick
Thanks. Good information. As usual! :)

Happy Solstice!

Cat
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:42 PM
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3. Hey CAT
THANKS, and a Merriest of Christmases to you!

Rick and Cheryl
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:23 PM
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5. My sense...is that those of us who don't release those dependencies
will have a bumpy ride, and if we DO let go, the possibility for growth is enormous.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:42 PM
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7. That's exactly what I've been saying for months
BUT, it has to come out of other people's mouths though. Then it's not THEORETICAL. It's personalized. People can identify with it more!

You said it precisely how it works. Perhaps many more are "feeling it" because now they're ready to deal with it!

Great news.
Simply great!

Enormous means you GET YOURSELF BACK! That's huge! :bounce:
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:56 PM
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8. "GET YOURSELF BACK" is exactly it!
I am at a new beginning. Me again.
And it is because I "woke up" due to a co-dependent relationship, but then had to make the CHOICE to release it and grow through it.
The co-dependency served to both wake me, and then renew me, ONCE I LET IT GO.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 10:29 PM
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10. I'm so glad for you
tell everyone!
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:28 PM
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6. Thanks! now I understand why you said Pluto was bombarding my sun.
Good explanation!
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 10:12 PM
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9. But--
is "dependent" the same as "co-dependent"?

Sorry, just trying to figure out whether my own situation will be affected by this. I think all the posts about this period have made me look deeper into alternative paths, but, I still don't see a way "out", as it were.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 10:32 PM
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11. Yes
same thing

We talked about this.
Wishing you the best of luck.

:hi:

I know that sometime the 3 options seem to stink, but you can get thru
My girl always tells me; no matter what the situation:

1. Change it
2. Accept it
3. Leave

sounds simple, eh?
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 07:57 AM
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12. Thank you, Rick.
Your girl is wise, and so are you.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 06:48 PM
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14. Hell yes, Rick, BIG turning points w/in family/dependents
happening now. Need tranquilizer, have only 0.5 mg (2 year old!) + doc appt in a.m., hope for survival. PRAY family members benefit from the turmoil.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 06:53 PM
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15. Let it go
let it happen
let it become what it is
what is has been

be willing to see what is
it will work out
it didn't work out before (pre-Pluto)

because someone was insisting that it was other than it is

The bad Scorp in your life is there on purpose
He brings you the challenge to show you how powerful you are

when you accept your power
as Pluto transits are for "when your power arrives"

he will disappear

remember, his co-dependency is ending too
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 07:12 PM
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17. HUGE thanks, Rick.
Edited on Wed Dec-22-10 07:17 PM by elleng
:hi:
:thumbsup:
:hug:

Just received, from older daughter!

Dear family,

I am writing to put an end to this. The last few days have been painful and emotionally exhausting, and I can no longer fight or engage in these harmful relationships. I will not defend myself or point fingers at anyone. Not a single one of us in innocent in the ways that we treat each other. There is no longer a reason to go back and forth and throw hurtful words at each other. I will privately soul search and answer to my own reason and logic, and I hope that each of us will do the same to try to understand our own reasons and motivation for causing pain to family members.

Life is short and I will no longer spend my time sad at the state of our family. I will instead spend the remaining time before my marriage to Ed begins as the generally happy and content person that I am. I will one day start my own family and I will learn from old mistakes. I wish the same peace for each of you.

Terrible and irreversible damage has been done by and to each one of us. This is not how I choose to spend my time or define my life. I will not impose my thoughts on any of you, as I do not expect for any other person to view things in the same way that I do. Please leave me out of any future family interractions so that I can begin to heal and move on.

I do not blame anyone for the pain that I have felt; it is my own responsibility to seize my happiness in life.

I have discontinued several modes of communication with the family. I will not be reachable for some time.

I hope that everyone's new year brings peace and closure.

Love always,
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 11:45 PM
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19. Wow, what a phenomenal example of what is happening across the board
it's in the collective and was "triggered" by the eclipse.
I am glad for you and her. Relief is needed.
It could have been much worse.

I hope you heal from this quickly
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 07:47 AM
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21. Quite something, isn't it?
'Healing' in progress, and hoping for her younger sister.

Thanks, again.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 11:59 AM
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23. She could have hung on
to the old, and not let it go, and then, oh my, it would have gotten worse.
By going with the archetype, she defuses it and relief ensues.

I truly hope it's all best for your family.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:42 PM
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24. Thanks, I'm sure it will be better,
as she's learned some 'truths' the 'bad' Scorpio has kept her from learning, and if she goes with truth, only good things, imo.

It WILL be best if older's renewal is shared with younger sister. That may take a while.

Thanks

:thumbsup:
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 07:59 AM
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22. Wow, EllenG ... that is amazing!
:hug: 's and a peaceful holiday to you.

O8)
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 12:44 PM
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25. Thanks, Myrina, and to you, too.
:hug:

:hi:
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 07:46 PM
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18. For the first time ever, my extended family is
meeting on the 26th for a holiday get together. Oh. My. I hadn't put that all together until just now. I hope we have worked out all our kinks. Or, I guess we find out.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 11:47 PM
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20. We're all connected
I hope you have a great time!
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 06:18 PM
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26. So Ric...I have a Scorpio daughter
and her behavior lately makes me think her planets are the ones you mentioned.......I guess you need a DOB and time?? ...I am really enjoying this thread and the comments...Ric you're really digging this, as I would imagine this is more than just a little fascinating from your side, right???? I am also watching another familial drama that concerns a Scorpio...
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 07:27 PM
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27. Yes, send me her data
I enjoy it for many reasons. I like having a steady, constant group of people who have been reading the newsletters for a while. I need to access from you how you see things. I work largely intuitively and empirically. So, I like to see the archetypes approach, and go thru and see how you all react and classify such.

Besides all the fun and just nice people.
Plus, everybody is so bright here, I learn.

:hi:

now, if we could just make it limited to just aquarians, I'd be fine with that! Joking! :rofl:

I'd like to do a poll on people's favorite signs, but there's only room for 10.
On my radio show in 1984, I did an astrology roundtable. Back then, we had people submit POSTCARDS (remember them) with their birth data. I chose the most Aries-like of the Aries, Taurus-like of the Tauruses, etc. We talked for 3 hours calling each other by the sun sign name. I have it on tape here somewhere. It was interesting how each sign saw the others.

I've had to do a lot of abstract thinking the past 2 years, along with Cheryl, as we are bringing to a close this book about the SIGNS, not the Sun-signs.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-10 04:54 PM
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30. Cool! Very interesting!
Okay 11/5/96.. Have fun...and Rick it's almost Xmas...there is a family member on their deathbed, but I think that it was inevitable, not part of the THING that's about to happen, but I must say some physical pain I am associating with stress seems more intense today!! I hope it will be better tomorrow, but your predictions make me wonder!
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 12:04 AM
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31. Send me her
name and birth time, am/pm and city please!!

Tanx
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 12:04 PM
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33. Don't be misled
there isn't necessarily a THING that is supposed to happen today. That's not how it works. More often than not, it's an internal THING.

an awareness

a light bulb going off, if you will

Hope it is Merry for you! :hi:
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 07:30 PM
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28. I hope I didn't mislead anyone
the particulars in the planets are in no way taking closer aim on Scorpio people. If one had to say where the real pressure is in the zodiac, it's in the Cardinal signs, i.e., Aries, Cancer, Libra, and Capricorn.

We're the lucky ones. :smoke:
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 10:05 PM
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29. Oh dear...
<--- Capricorn Sun with Libra Moon and Cancer rising... triple whammy? (Hubby is a Scorpio... daughter is a Sag...)
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 12:12 AM
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32. And I'm a Cancer sun, Capricorn moon & Libra rising
my brother (also a Cancer) just got some very bad news about his health. The situation is dire, but not without hope, but I have become overemotional and very weepy about it and cannot hang on to the positive possiblity. Usually I cope with things a bit better.... Then there's the tendonitis in my foot that has gotten much worse.

I'm not that well versed in astology - but could these all these physical problems be a result of this?
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 12:05 PM
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34. I'm sorry to hear about your brother
yes, these planets are PROBABLY the triggers, but a more in depth look at your chart is necessary.
They have their "good" side too. I hope you rebound soon.
Merry Christmas to you
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 12:56 AM
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46. Just back in from a wonderful time with my extended family...
Edited on Mon Dec-27-10 12:57 AM by rosesaylavee
Lots of people, not enough room... and even a one year old baby added into the mix of eccentricity. Everyone behaved, everyone shared stories, food and I think everyone had a good time.

Rick, I am having a wonderful week. Very relaxing and enjoyable so far. No traumatic relevations, no angry people. I hope this just continues because I could get used to this.

And I'm double Capricorn. Thought I was going to get hit hard by this stuff... Yay. I was wrong. :)
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 12:36 PM
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35. For exactness
the Sun will be one degree from Pluto Christmas night, tonight, around 7:30pm Eastern. :hi:
May it be great for everyone.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 08:08 PM
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36. I know two people who went to the ER today
One guy is a friend in another city has had to do that about every two or three weeks for the last couple of months.........and my grandkid's grandfather on the other side of the family. Both have been through a lot medically recently.

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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 08:36 PM
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37. Let's only hope they're ok
Edited on Sat Dec-25-10 09:25 PM by Ricochet21
I wish them the best
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findrskeep Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 09:12 PM
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38. Rick, I have to tell you....
my son ended up working today, Christmas day...he's not even home yet because he's working a double shift. Needless to say, I was upset at him not being home for the first time ever on Christmas day. That, on top of last week him telling me he was thinking of joining the army, well, you can imagine how I felt about it. When I came downstairs this morning, there under the tree was a card for me and he had written inside of it, "Mom, I know how much you love me and how much you care, don't worry I won't leave you". It also said, "I love how you care about things much bigger than yourself" which to me said, he gets me. I stood there and just cried. Not that I want my son to be tied to his Mom forever or anything weird like that, but because I thought I had lost him, lost who he was..we were always so close and he was always such a gentle soul. But seeing that card made me realize, he's still the same and hasn't changed like I'd feared.

Also, he left a card for my husband, not his biological Dad. But he's been with my husband since he was 5 years old. He's never called him "Dad". On the envelope, it read "Dad" and on the inside he wrote "Thank you for always being a great Dad to me and being there for me". He's never verbalized that, ever, even though it was somewhat implied. So then my husband cried too...lol.

I've seen this thread throughout the week and wondered a little bit about what that will mean for me and this situation on Christmas Day...after this past week's emotional roller coaster I wasn't sure I wanted to know. So I just logged on to see what everyone is up to on ASAH and when I saw this thread, it gave me chills! I remembered what you had written about the climax of the eclipse being today. I don't know if what happened here in our little world today is what you're talking about, but I'm sure feel much better today than I have in over a week!

Thanks again Rick, I just wanted to share.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-10 09:21 PM
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39. Astrology is hard to follow
When someone is "braced" about upcoming planetary events, one panics. New astrologers do so for years, then you learn that it's just life.

THis is a very good sign for you. The "situation" could have been gobbled up by pain and dysfunction; it was tested.
Instead, your purity, including your husbands, saw you thru it. This again is he purity of Pluto. The crap has fallen aside and
you see the truth.

Time to celebrate.
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 09:00 AM
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40. My cat Lewis died last night
He was sick, but I didn't realize how sick, and I guess it was all too much for him. I'm wrecked by guilt for not taking him to the emergency vet yesterday.

No idea how old he was because he wandered up into my back garden 4 years ago -- kind of beaten up and neglected -- so I took him in and took care of him. He healed up nicely and was very happy here.

Such a good boy.
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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 12:31 PM
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41. I'm so sorry
I love cats. Tip your hat to Lewis :(
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 12:33 PM
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42. Oh, Kookaburra...
I am so sorry to read this. My first thought tho is Lewis had a much better life and probaby a longer life with you than he would have had otherwise. Hugs to you!
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findrskeep Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 01:48 PM
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43. I'm very sorry kookaburra....we have two kitties
and LOVE our boys, so I can imagine how you feel. Much love and healing energy to you.
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 02:40 PM
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44. I'm so sorry to hear about Lewis, Kookaburra.
I very recently lost my canine companion of 18 years, and was also wracked with guilt over being unable to do anything for him (since it was the middle of the night and we also hadn't realized how sick he really was this time), so I understand what you are going through.

We have four cats who live in the house (and one who lives upstairs with my daughter), and they have been such a comfort to me. The one who has been the most comfort to me, however, is one that your description of Lewis reminds me of. I say he "came with the house," since that IS how he came to us. He had always lived outdoors just "in the neighborhood," but now he stays with us, although he still comes and goes as he pleases since that's what he knows. He has been a sweetheart, cuddling with me in the evenings. He is so grateful to have a place that is warm and dry and safe that he can go to where he is loved and cherished for the unique being he is.

I say this because I am thinking that is how your Lewis must have seen you as well. He had a wonderful home with you, where he was loved and cared for. I am sure that he loves you without question, still. Without you, his life would have been so very different, as would his passing. Take comfort in knowing that you did the best you could, and that was more than he had likely ever gotten from anyone else in his life. He IS grateful. Of this, I am sure. These animals such as Lewis (and my Stellan Stanley) wander into our lives and share their joy and love with us, and when they are done, they know and move on. Perhaps Lewis felt his work with you was done.

I know my words are small comfort. No words can ever really express the feelings we have at times like these. But know that my love is with you, and that Lewis is, I'm sure, very happy for the love and care he had with you, that he would not have otherwise had for those 4 years he was with you.

Don't beat yourself up (it took me many days to stop beating myself up when my Cody died as he did). Lewis knows he was loved, and he understands.

Bless you and Lewis. Sending you healing light and warm comfort.

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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 12:34 PM
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47. I am so sorry, Kookaburra...
:cry:

Bless Lewis (who was loved beyond measure -- a lifetime's worth -- in the last four years), and bless you.

May he frolic pain free, with grace and ease, now. May you be comforted, knowing you gifted him with pure love and all that entails while he was here physically with you.

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

:loveya:




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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 06:30 PM
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45. I have felt nervous during solar eclipses.
I remember that the day in the summer that Andrea Yates drowned her kids, there was a solar eclipse and I remember being jittery that day.

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