I haven't wanted to bring this up

[Celebration]

But, oh, well, here goes.

The reason that I am so deeply disturbed about the imagery that Palin used in the "crosshairs" is that it reminded me of radionics. Radionics means different things to different people but there is always a "target" (guess who) and a trend (guess what). Yes, sometimes *rates* are used. Keep in mind that people use "black box" radionics, which is a kind of placebo form of the real thing, but it works just as well because it is pure intention. The black box type of radionics has morphed into the type that is more like a vision board on a computer screen, often with flashes of things going on.

What I am saying is that the map created by Palin reminded me of a vision board. The intention was supplied by all the people viewing it, even if Palin's intention wasn't literal.

This *is* about creating their own reality. It all makes me wonder if there weren't some people doing additional black magic using the computer imagery as a jumping off point.

Anyway, I am somewhat nervous bringing this up, even here. But then again, I am drawn towards dangerous ideas.

What do you all think, and............what can we do?

[mysticalchick]

1. Glad you brought it up, Celebration ....

.... I am with you on thinking that it's entirely possible. We may never know but even exploring the idea is a good step.

What do others here think?

[I Have A Dream]

2. I think that it's a very appropriate thing to bring up here.

I don't know what to do, but realizing that this is possible is very important.

[Fire Walk With Me]

3. Palin and her people are armageddonists.

I would not put past them, mental malpractice.

Just remember that karma has sped up and will continue to speed up. Even techniques of averting karma are of little use at the judgement.

[BlueIris]

4. Oooh, tough issue. Based on personal experience, I feel I must advise

anyone who wants to "get metaphysical" on these hate mongers to proceed with extreme caution.

The only time I can truly say I was ever, well, psychically "burned," was while trying to engage intuitively with the Bush Administration. (I was trying to send them positive energy in the hope that it would deter war with Iran.) I was so disturbed by what I "got back" that I've never done anything like that again.

Whenever I need to send energy toward a positive outcome, I try to focus on the people working for solutions (sometimes these people are even Democrats.) I also do more than a little bit of shielding before I reach out, and most of the time, I will outsource the job to other entities if I can ("Hey, Guides, can you talk to the Guides of X, Y or Z and see if you can get some movement?")

Proceed with caution. Engaging on a psychic level with Crazy Folk is not for sissy pants.

[Celebration]

5. I'm not going to engage in psychic warfare............

I am a sissy pants about that, LOL!

I would probably do better if I could engage guides, but that hasn't happened.

I'm just really a bit frightened of the intention that may have been put behind the imagery once it was posted. I don't know if it was intention alone, or was it something more formal that was done? I don't know.....I just have a feeling that the "vision board" put up by Palin is connected to the rampage, but not in the ordinary sense, but at the very least in "the energy is out there" sense, but perhaps something far more sinister.

Maybe when something like this happens in the future, and there is another negative "vision board" posted that is potentially viewed by hundreds of thousands of people, we can interact directly with that to sort of transmute the energy. Okay, that just came to me, so I am glad I am thinking as I am typing.

[Fire Walk With Me]

6. See? Your guides -are- present. All you have to do is ask and be willing to accept the answers.

[BlueIris]

11. For the record, I wasn't suggesting in anything like warfare...

I wanted to warn people who are thinking about sending even a little bit of positive energy the way of someone like Sarah Palin that I've had bad experiences attempting just that rudimentary action. I think engaging with them on any intuitive level is a dangerous (and pointless) idea.

[Celebration]

16. That's interesting

Psychic warfare would probably work better than that, but would most likely (hopefully, even) have its own set of consequences. I've decided not to try to fool with the people in any way, and just stick to the vision boards they knowingly or unknowingly create.

[Celebration]

19. sheesh, now that I read the piece linked below

They really DO even call it spiritual warfare!!

I now know why the mainstream PTB wants to keep the metaphysical information out of the hands of we peons--too many are so irresponsible. It's kind of like their version of gun control--belittle any spiritual efforts to change things, in order to discredit the information and keep people away from metaphysical knowledge through fear. But, see, it hasn't worked, and we get people that Palin identifies herself with practicing "spiritual warfare" anyway, targeting things like Mormon temples on maps and then releasing the "demons".

So there is spiritual warfare going on anyway, holy crap!

Most of DU would just think it was weird and odd and disturbing.........what they don't realize is that this stuff can work, unfortunately.

[mysticalchick]

9. Yeah ...

Rose Rosetree has done empathic merges with W and said it was not something she'd recommend for ANYONE - even a very skilled empath. I don't know if she's ever done that with Cheney but I have to imagine that it'd be 100x worse than dubs. I mean, he's the mastermind of it - Dubs was just the puppet. (Well, that's MY theory.)

So yeah, I hear ya, Bonnie.

[BlueIris]

10. Since you mention Mr. Cheney...

I have never actually picked up any energy around him. Which may be because of my limited range as an intuitive, or may be because of something our own Celebration has observed, namely that all of Cheney's major chakras are dark. I've always felt, based on the non-presence Cheney is to me, that sending light there would be pointless.

[Fire Walk With Me]

12. Cheney is mostly aggression, force, and domination.

But that's pretty obvious.

I had considered putting up a web site during BushCo, "Hug Dick Cheney", where you could "press" a button which would add to a counter of how many hugs were sent to Dick Cheney. Never got further than that :)

[Celebration]

7. ha, you could be right

I don't "personalize" things like God or the Devil, or guides. The exception is entities, but I don't even think of them as beings..........But guides are probably just guides, the "inner voice".

I'm a bit weird about this but sometimes I reach back into fairy tales for answers, oh, and myths...........So Pandora's Box has always fascinated me, as has Sleeping Beauty. The consequences of pricking the finger were greatly lessened by a sort of anti-spell, but not entirely. Honestly I don't even do this kind of thing.......but I would like to amplify our intentions to mitigate whatever the evildoers are up to.

[Fire Walk With Me]

8. Pray together to uncreate all conspiracies harmful to mankind.

I'm not certain what the exact karmic return would be from this.

[get the red out]

13. Thought form?

I was wondering today, before I read this thread, if some kind of "thought form" might have been created by the Palin imagery and the right wing/teabagger hate-mongers that found the weakest link it could inhabit, in the mentally ill gunman, at just the right time.....

[Celebration]

14. yeah

Once that energy is out there, well, like she said, there can be consequences. If we see any other widespread negative imagery let's call people's attention to it here so we can send love to the image.

I wonder if anyone else is giving serious thought to these ideas? There are lots of people who know much more about this kind of thing than I.

[FirstLight]

15. ooh boy, did you see this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x592105

Palin doing a little "spiritual mapping"

wellwell...

let's keep sending light and love to those places to counteract, right?

[Celebration]

18. WOW

All I can say is just WOW, and when I first typed the wow, want to know my typo? SOS!!! (lol)

When people fool around in groups of people who do this kind of thing, especially fringe elements, they often just have no idea the portals that can be opened. I think we probably now have the connection between the map and the incident. I will give SP the benefit of the doubt and assume that she did not personally mean for something like this to occur. Can you imagine, though, how scary it would be to have someone like this in office????? Just wow.

Good catch. I am officially REALLY creeped out. Scary enough that people are out doing this kind of thing anyway, but add that to a presidential candidate??? OMG.

[get the red out]

20. They make dark magic

They can call themselves "Christians" all they want but stuff like this is evil, plain and simple, Jesus did the opposite (not claiming that I know that much about Christianity, but I know this at least). I just feel like if you are praying for negative, it isn't the God of love you are reaching out to.

I have felt for a long time that the stuff on right wing radio possesses people in some strange way, mainly because I have witnessed it in action, someone feeling and thinking logically on the weekend then that going the opposite when they listen to Rush on Monday. It reached unbalanced people even more than common Republicans, with devastating results. People who would pray negative prayers are unbalanced in some way, they have to be, they are looking for some power they don't have and reach out for one no one should have. Sick!!!!!

[Celebration]

21. yeah

Opens portals and entities are attracted and attach. People can really spiral downhill unless they stay grounded.

Occult knowledge + Sociopath= Destruction. Not all possess the occult knowledge, but enough of them do, apparently.

[MorningGlow]

22. You betcha (oops)

They do indeed. Any "Christian" who prays for harm to come to someone they don't like, for instance. And some of them do it ALLLLL the time.

[Callie McAllie]

17. I'm glad you said this

I had the feeling after that "blood libel" comment that she was speaking in code to some kind of evil underground. It occurred to me that they always said when the devil appears on earth, he will be attractive. They just didn't mention that he would be a she!

[FirstLight]

23. Sister Sarah = Esther from the bible

You guys have heard that they are equating her to the biblical Esther, right?

Well I was just thinking that there is alot of talk in church groups about the 'antichrist' being like a spiritual leader that gets everyone to follow them...and why not a woman, that is, after all, the ultimate opposite of christ. a hatemongering female who gets others to follow her because their peace = war
...it's like watching the doublespeak of 1984 all the time with this bunch.

creepy :scared: