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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:50 PM
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Can you feel it?
Talk about a seismic shift in the collective! Yes, it's tense, it's chaotic, it's stressed, it's at times violent (though largely out of self-defense). Most of all, it's PASSIONATE.

I feel so incredibly blessed to be alive right now. I've never felt that before. I feel that now.

I find it very hard to be centered and focused, with the world as we know it shifting beneath our feet and before our eyes. So, I'm just focused on my heart being wide open and trying to go with whatever flow may be available in the moment.

While some are sensing fear and destruction, I sense -- I feel -- a collective Love, a Oneness, like I've never experienced.

Voices are rising...people are waking up, feeling empowered. Joining together to rise as One Voice.

Blessings, blessings, blessings to All.

:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

:loveya:

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Ricochet21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:55 PM
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1. Yeh, uh
well, uh, sorta, kinda, huh, yah, fer sure :hi:
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:12 PM
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2. There you are, you planetary rascal!
Well, I am feeling hopeful enough, but yesterday everything felt bundled up and super tense, and today, there was a point this morning, where I looked up and felt like I was supposed to be feeling or receiving something. No, I thought it was a remarkable moment, but I'm not sure what to call it...???
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:21 PM
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3. Here you go, OGR
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:37 PM
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5. Nice!!!
Love it!

:loveya:

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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:46 PM
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6. OMG!!!!!!!
Kismet!!!!!
I have had my C.D player loaded and playing The Jackson Five and Micheal Jackson for two weeks now!!!!.

Yep something very collective is going on and its Strong Mojo.
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:31 PM
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8. Synchronicity, dear Howler
It's most excellent.
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:23 PM
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4. Sign me up!
Soon as I get some sleep.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:12 PM
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7. those little darlings keeping you up at night?
:rofl: new parents, it's always hard. :hug:
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:01 AM
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9. My pain amuse's you??????? LOL!
You know White Tara I really didn't think of it like that but .....:9 :think: :thumbsup:
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 07:20 PM
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24. more like memories
that make me laugh...and maybe a bit of amusement. You know what "they" say...No good deed goes unpunished! :rofl:
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:07 PM
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25. LOL! Too True.
But in all honesty We need Quark and Rigby as much as they need us.
Only difference is those little boogers are getting sleep.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 01:33 PM
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10. Waking up is uncomfortable to many because they don't know what to do
from then on. Love is what eases the transition.

"May you live in interesting times" has a positive side :hug:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 01:55 PM
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11. Because the destructive part of it is doing so much damage to my own life,
my future, everything I planned for and everything I deserve, I can't get behind the idea that it is ultimately more of a good thing than a bad thing, sorry. But I agree with those who say things need to CHANGE, and that should have started a long time ago, not this year, and that the evil that is being exposed needs to come out. Now. So in that sense these developments are positive.

Still, though, since I think the worst of it is not yet out, I'm more depressed, anxious and apathetic than anything else. I am especially worried about some of our posters here, who I think are trying to put too positive a spin on the upcoming tragedies and are consequently not prepared for what is to come. Really worried.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 02:08 PM
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12. Well, as we've hashed out here before in ASAH...
It's my view that we can prepare for the absolute worst, yet simultaneously choose to work toward and focus on something much, much better playing out.

I see no benefit whatsoever to the masses being consumed with depression, anxiety and apathy -- apathy based on a sense of helplessness.

I am so sorry you are feeling as you do. I know you have good reason to feel as you do.

:hug: :hug: :hug:


I find myself there periodically as well, but I can't allow myself to stay there. To me, that serves no useful purpose whatsoever. I can prepare for society to crumble as best I can, but not be consumed with apocalyptic visions and instead do my best to raise the vibration so perhaps...just perhaps...the best-case scenario has a chance of manifesting.

:loveya:



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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 02:16 PM
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14. Okay, yeah, I hear what you're saying. And generally, I am the last person to say we should just
Edited on Sat Feb-19-11 02:17 PM by BlueIris
kick back and accept the worst case scenario, without even trying for something better. Of course I think we can pull a functional society out of this mess and everyone should try to make that happen.

But I'm having a real problem with the way some folks in the New Age community are still trying to pollyanna everything that is happening as simply a beautiful transformation into the new. Because I feel that's glossing over the very bad choices many evil people have made to get us here, (and letting those folks totally off the hook) and failing to prepare for the nightmare this is creating our own lives. It's a way of avoiding dealing with the pain, if you ask me. And the superficiality of some of the "it's all for the best" crap is actually offensive, IMO.

Thanks for your good thoughts about my situation, tho. I'm trying.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 02:20 PM
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15. Ahhh, gotcha....
Edited on Sat Feb-19-11 02:32 PM by OneGrassRoot
Yep, yep, I do hear you.

Not only the aspects you've said, but the typical New Age commentary of "you created this reality" can really, really get under my skin, too.

(Edit to clarify the "you created this reality" comment. While I believe that, to a large extent we do create our reality, especially in how we respond to life's events, I think it can be very damaging to hear over and over "you created this," especially when disease, death and myriad forms of suffering happen to those who have been trying their best to "focus on the positive.")

I'm all for personal responsibility (and agree with the people who created such suffering being held accountable), but some of the spiritual philosophies can just make everything so much worse, imho. Builds resentment, guilt, etc., without offering practical support (says the Virgo). ;)

I hear you, BlueIris.

:hug:

:loveya:

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 03:03 PM
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18. Think of it this way
For every instance where someone says "This is going to be bad...", "I can't help it but I see disaster coming...", "Brace yourself, terrible events are in our future...", there will be instances where others will state they do not see those eventualities. Who's right? Both.

We talk a lot about the power of intent, and that is vey real. The more someone insists that the future will be horrible, the more it WILL be horrible. The "Pollyannas" are not in denial; they truly see a much better future coming, and are also putting forth the energy to make it that way.

I agree with you that we should not let those people off the hook "who got us here" (paraphrasing), but that's the past--already done. About the future, you say "failing to prepare for the nightmare". Do you see how you are EXPECTING a nightmare, and the more you talk about that as inevitable, the more that is what will manifest? Positive-outlook people are not being delusional; they are consciously creating a more positive future.

BlueIris, you are tapping into a POSSIBLE scenario. And I understand that it is very real to you and, in your eyes, the only outcome. But as the future is as yet unformed, it is NOT the only inevitable outcome. We could have had so many violent and destructive incidents in our reality in the past dozen years, yet we have not. Egypt, for example, could have been a blood bath. But it was not.

So--which side do you want to be on? Do you WANT a nightmare scenario for our future? If so, that is your right. But repeatedly insisting that it is inevitable, and spreading "the end is near" declarations like a latter-day Cassandra, is irresponsible, IMO. "Prepare for the worst, HOPE for the best"--and work toward the best.

I would ask that you try, try, try to be open to more positive visions. See what you get. You might surprise yourself. :hug:
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 03:06 PM
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19. Very well said, MG, especially this:
"Prepare for the worst, HOPE for the best--and work toward the best."

:yourock:

:hug:

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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 03:22 PM
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20. 'Kay, again, just for the record, (and I'm not trying to be hostile, here, I swear)
I don't believe in the concept of manifestation as it is widely portrayed on this board and other boards. I don't believe we manifest everything that comes in and out of our lives. I don't believe it is possible to cause a bad outcome to manifest solely through our "negative thoughts," or that looking at the reality of a potentially very bad outcome automatically means that outcome will be as bad as our fears. Just like I also don't believe we can just manifest whatever positivity we want to come into our lives simply because. I mean, I guess we're entitled to try, but only rarely have I seen anyone just bust out in glorious prosperity and health simply because they tried to manifest those changes.

I also don't believe everyone has the ability to manifest or will be able to learn to manifest. Some people deliberately incarnate without the ability to do that, or at least, without the ability to do it easily. And seriously, both kinds of people will have to learn to bring what they want into their lives and our world based as much on their choices and actions as what they're asking for (manifesting) on a psychic and spiritual level.

But that's me. You're entitled to your own perspectives just like everyone else here is.

And I don't mean to suggest that every single last pollyanna is in denial, or deliberately refusing to accept reality. It's just that I truly fear for the mental health of the ones who are, because the outcomes I'm seeing, at least in the short term, are bad enough that I don't think any amount of "manifesting" is going to reduce their severity. The truth does not change according to one's ability to stomach it emotionally (or spiritually.)
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 04:19 PM
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21. That's fine--let's put aside manifestation then
Let me ask you another question: Do you believe that the future is predetermined, or do you believe that a variety of outcomes are possible depending on the choices we make and the events that occur prior to that future?

In other words, do you feel that the terrible scenarios you are foreseeing are truly going to happen, that there are no other options?
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 04:25 PM
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23. I think that the conversation you two are having is really good.
:thumbsup:

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 07:20 PM
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48. If you wish to specifically know more about manifestation,
read (and open your senses to) the book "The Sermon On The Mount" By Emmet Fox.

http://www.amazon.com/Sermon-Mount-Key-Success-Life/dp/0060628626

It is from the Christian Scientist school, which is correct in many ways. However, there appears to be encoding going on here; your third eye and mental screen might be hooked into functionality, without it saying that will occur, which if I remember correctly, is called in Christian Science, mental malpractice.

Do this only if you are skilled enough to remove such encodings.

Along with the mental screen and third eye, especially combining the two, will and energetic focus assist in manifestation.

And if you have correlated my postings about the last two years, you will know that co-creation is indeed the direction Earth is taking, as an absolute. This changes many things on the planet...it will become obvious to everyone eventually that something amazing is occuring and that the majority will rule with its intent. I've written of revolution fast and slow, and it is occuring in the literal and figurative sense. "Look at the bones!!!", to humorously quote Monty Python and the Holy Grail. What you are seeing, is what it appears to be despite any window dressing. Cheers!
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:06 PM
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50. Specifically regarding Knowing some of the trouble we face
makes it ever more important to fine-tune your own state of mind and energy. Working to create a positive personal space is very important, as you will get more of what you focus upon. It may seem odd to be loving during a crisis, but it makes the most practical sense when faced by feedback mechanisms.

Regarding world changes and how we should feel about them, especially any we cannot seemingly change...same thing. There are two major questions in my mind regarding global warming- will we be able to defeat it to an extent allowing for continuing presence on land, or will we indeed be required to hide in domes whilst the winds do howl around us for decades upon decades as the world heals? With the loss in population one may infer from such things?

I have sensed enough regarding the possibilities and depth of what is going on to believe that it is not fixed, not fore-ordained. It is certainly the most likely outcome =if= we do little to nothing about it. I believe that we can work miracles on this, and that enough people sensing the world Trend in terms of personal power and responsibility, can get it together to bring into being a better outcome. Look around; the will of the majority is becoming the Law. This is the Trend, so far as I can see it.

Use your intuition and ask through the pendulum. I'd be interested in the outcome as I don't know everything (just act like it).
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:15 PM
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51. ...
I believe that we can work miracles on this, and that enough people sensing the world Trend in terms of personal power and responsibility, can get it together to bring into being a better outcome. Look around; the will of the majority is becoming the Law. This is the Trend, so far as I can see it.


Me, too. :hug:

:thumbsup:

:loveya:

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 02:15 PM
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13. Sorry to hear you feel that way, BI
But don't forget--we get what we focus on. While we should all go into the future with eyes wide open, we also need to remember that the future is unformed and is influenced by what we expect it to be.
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 02:26 PM
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16. The way I see it
It isn't apocalyptic
But I feel The earth has to shrug The mother will do it to keep herself cool and balanced. Its not a Judgment or execution.Its simply survival.
But I also agree with OneGrassRoot and alot of other posters here.It need not be has bad as all the hoopla and fear based end times stuff.

I know that I know That this is just the end of the beginning.Human Kind is growing up and getting ready to come into its full bloom.
As Rick says It all within us to ultimately determine our Past, present, and future.
I am full of hope because i know there is a very bright and relatively peaceful future once we get past the growing pains.

Its all good.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 02:30 PM
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17. My mystery school teacher used to say that the blissed-out types are of no use to anyone.
He's far more pragmatic than I am.

A certain amount of positive energy =does= make a genuine difference in the entire world, and will increasingly as the energy shifts/feedback increases. Many will succumb to their own fear, consuming themselves and leaving the world. Some of this will be visible in "waves" and trends as the shift continues. Quite honestly, you cannot harbor fear and plug into a nearly mind-over-matter system and not suffer "monsters from the ID". Forbidden Planet...

It is possible for a majority of people to take the positive direction and despite Earth changes and such obvious struggles as Global Warming (now obvious to anyone actually paying attention), stay in a positive place, survive, and make things better. It is also possible for the majority to be caught in an increasing feedback loop of fear, and to make things worse as global changes ramp up, causing something akin to some of the "2012" fears we've all heard about. It's up to us to keep enough positive energy throughout the species and to provide positive examples that many will see the better method. People are usually quick to pick up that which they find beneficial.

There is also the damaging side; some bad intent knows how to survive into the new energy and then use it to specifically cause harm, not caring about self-damage, but concerned to cause destruction using the most powerful possible methods. It is useful to use skills to undo negative thought forms in general, and specifically those formed against the Earth and the Sun. Just something to keep in mind.
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findrskeep Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 04:23 PM
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22. Hey BI and everyone...
This is an interesting conversation. BlueIris, I know what you're seeing must be awful. And I believe that you are seeing a scenario of what COULD happen, but not necessarily the ONLY scenario.

I too agree with what I think MG said, that we "get what we focus on". I hear what you are saying BI, and I do believe you when you say the outcome could be bad according to what you're seeing/sensing. But I also believe, along with others here, that the future is not yet formed. I also believe that it is possible to have many different futures, perhaps all occurring simultaneously. There's also a theory that our past, present and future are all occurring simultaneously, right now. Supposedly we are all transitioning into the "now" time where everything, past/present/future occur at the same time. Maybe you are seeing a reality that IS happening on some level. Who knows??

I do know when you are psychic like we are BI, it is so hard to have a positive outlook when it goes against what we "know" or what we have seen. Perhaps we are being shown these horrible scenarios so that we can then focus our energy on the total opposite. Thoughts ARE energy, and if the future is not already set in stone, which I don't feel, or believe that it is, then wouldn't it be better to focus our thoughts, our energy on a positive outcome?

We can all prepare for the worst until the cows come home, and if the worst happens, well then, we have done our preparation, but that's not ALL that we can do, we can focus our intent, and our thoughts and our energy on the positive, and just maybe we can change a negative outcome into a positive one. I'm not saying to be in denial, I'm just saying what can it hurt? I truly believe that it's futile to just focus on the negative.
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:47 AM
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26. When we think of the combinaton of Quantum Pshyics and
visualization, IMHO, that's could very well contribute to outcomes (but then I believe in Parallel Universes).
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 10:55 AM
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37. It's kind of like the Y2K non-event. Many were seeing the end of
civilization and made elaborate plans for survival. Others felt that everything would be okay. I think our future will be kind of like that.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:57 AM
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42. a *lot* of work went on behind the scenes for years ahead of
of the Y2K non-event. And the media hype was really media lies. The crap they promulgated -- such as planes falling out of the sky -- was never a possibility. It was date-based software -- mostly finance software -- that was at risk. 20% of application failures based on not programming for the millenial changeover happened years before Y2K. In fact, the failure of forward-planning financial software was what gave business the heads-up. Back in '95, business planners started doing their 5-year plans and their software blew up cuz it didn't have a year 2000. :shrug:

I worked in high-tech at the time, and in fact my organization was big on Y2K preparations -- we provided the data storage for the software upgrade projects. We had many, many Y2K projects going for years before the year turned over. Software update projects in any and all applications that involved dates, and the software engineers were fully employed fixing it in advance.

It was just a major, across-the-board software upgrade. Nothing more; nothing less.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 07:12 PM
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47. There are some who read ASAH and imagine that if I post anything "negative", that it must mean that
I myself specifically intent what I've written. You obviously do not and cannot know my prayers for the planet...

I cannot begin to slap my forehead enough about that sort of misjudgement and hope that some day they can move on to something, anything, else, somehow.

Words fail me for the most part. And to think you're going to get worse as the positive energy increases...
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 08:57 AM
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27. Right now I am feeling an acceleration of events
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 09:01 AM by eilen
and energies. It is like a pressure. It has a very dark side and I understand where Blue Iris is coming from. I have a great sense of foreboding. There are many challenges ahead and it is not going to be a pleasant happy experience for many. Some of what is coming is designed to spread the hurt to the many to protect the few but the protected few will not stay protected without great cost.

There may be some problems with currency. This has happened in the past. My grandfather's savings/money lost value three times in his life. Perhaps a change in monetary policy in which the dollar is not central. Or it could be a change from the euro... I am not sure, just have a very strong feeling that there will be an upset in currency.

It will be a huge blow up and revealing much that had been hidden to the public. It may make the protests going on about contracts, SS, mortgages/foreclosures, pensions etc. a moot point. I have the sense there will have to be a great restructure, a new build which gives an opportunity for something better (or worse). Nonetheless, the fallout will be earthshaking.

I don't know that gold or precious metals will make any difference. I always thought gold was the last refuge for the paranoid. However the whole concept of money gold etc..--- these may change. There are those on this globe who have been hoarding such things in expectation of this time believing it will provide them with power and a high negotiation point. I don't have a positive feeling this will have the effects that they seek.

This has no answer for the manifestation theorists. While you may manifest certain things in your life within your area of influence, global events are of greater magnitude and it is likely to your benefit if you say, manifested good health habits and positive, supportive relationships in your life to get through this time.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:10 AM
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28. ...
"acceleration of events" and "pressure."

Yes, I agree. :)

BTW, I sent a message about seeds and blogs at Wishadoo, but I think I messed something up regarding messages and notifications. I'll send you a PM here. :)

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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:13 AM
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29. the dollar is going to be dumped as reserve currency
China and Europe are in discussions. This isn't my intuition speaking -- there have been one or two articles about it posted in the economy forum. The fallout from that will be dramatic for us.

And I agree with you about it making all the other conversations moot. That *is* my intuition speaking...actually from when I was very young. I "knew" from the time I was single-digits that there would be no social security when it came my turn to collect. But that "it will be ok."

Some have posted that there *won't* be mass starvation. In fact, there already is mass starvation going on...it just happens to be a billion or so brown people on the other side of earth, mostly in Africa. That has been much of the motivation behind the current revolution in the ME. Food shortages are real, but also the rising costs due to commodities speculation by the elite gamblers, etc.

The earth changes will continue and will be dramatic and cause great suffering for those who live in the "wrong" places, even while some go on about our business in the "safe" places. There will be more and more "wrong" places, and the suffering there will be intense. For example, it continues in the gulf, where the residents have literally been poisoned by BP's toxic attempts to hide their catastrophe.



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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 10:09 AM
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34. The Earth changes are so extreme that I don't see how any place can be deemed "safe"
:shrug:

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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:40 AM
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40. relatively safe?
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 11:40 AM by northernlights
It's safer where I am then sitting near (or on top of) a major fault line.
It's safer where I am (on top of a major pure water aquifer) then in a desert. (That would include southern California, which will revert to desert when they stop siphoning off water from the Colorado river to fill swimming pools and irrigate farms.)
It's safer where I am (on a high ridge) than 4 miles away, in a bowl at sea level.

Of course, I could still have a tree topple on my head in an ice storm. And if the Yellowstone caldera blows, then it's bye-bye to pretty much all of us. :D
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 10:16 AM
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36. Yes, I have seen even more articles on this
and not just about reserve currency. Any currency based on a resource like oil will collapse.

There is mass starvation and not just in Africa. I believe there are also epidemics/new viruses that are killing people which are being downplayed in the press. They might call it Cholera, for example-- or a drug resistant typhoid.... but they are new diseases. There is no talk about this in our press-- radio silence. Most develop in birds or other animals first and mutate. Notice we have had some big die offs of flocks of certain species with little followup. I think they are trying to figure out what it is at the CDC. Just recently in Lake Erie there was another die off. Some of this is related to the conditions left after major disasters and the lack of adequate care, sanitation and housing following. This is not d/t lack of money but d/t greed, they money was taken. The situation in the Gulf is criminal. The people should have been evacuated. I think it is the largest environmental disaster in the US. The Obama administration did not respond appropriately and I believe is complicit in the destruction of lives there -- the government did not protect the people (I'm not sure why, perhaps lack of resources and political reluctance to address reality?) and are continuing to prevent citizens from financially recovery of funds placed in trust for that purpose. What do you expect with bankers and swindlers in charge?

It is conspiring to be a perfect storm and what we are seeing in Wisconsin (which is nothing short of amazing compared to the zeitgeist last year-- no one could have thought it would happen) is going to be the norm as people are getting fed up.

There is more that I am getting but it is kind of scary/depressing so I understand Blue Iris' reluctance to extrapolate.

Nonetheless, practice healthy habits. Clean your fresh food from the supermarket before you eat it. Try to keep to organics or locally grown foods. Grow your veggies this Spring, or go to farmers markets. Exercise, take the car out less--get your bike on. Play outside. Go hiking, build endurance. Learn more about your region, where things are like boat slips, trails, campsites, fresh water. Participate in community organizing activities like common compost, resource recovery, thrift meets. Support local cultural events-- go to the symphony, the concerts in the park, the fun runs, the art exhibit events like Third Tuesdays. If you live near a university -- go to lectures and dramatic arts events. If you are in a small town, give one at your library about something you know a lot about. Find connections with people on your wavelength around your community- you know who they are when you see them/meet them. These people always look familiar, you will recognize them, even children.

It is important to keep your health, your sense of humor, self sufficiency, capacity to be transported by beauty, spark your imagination, and forge personal connections. Live a live worth living to fight for what you believe in.





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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:21 AM
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30. Something else to keep in mind about "positivity"...
I know you guys realize this, but sometimes the simplest things bear repeating.

Personally, I find it's not easy to be positive and hopeful, not on a consistent -- certainly not constant -- basis. I also don't think it's good to fake it. We have to feel what we feel. You may notice that I go more silent when I'm having a particularly difficult time; that's just my way. I deal with it and don't "stuff" it, I just don't share it.

But it seems that those who have the greatest sense of foreboding may lose sight of the fact that, trying to maintain a sense of hope and positivity (combined with positive action) is really, really, really hard work.

As FWWM said before, it's like exercising a new muscle. It just ain't easy.

I think the fake Pollyanna types who knowingly and intentionally hide their heads in the sand do a great disservice to those who have worked hard to maintain genuine hope in their hearts and are working toward creating and manifesting Love. I fall into the latter category, and I gotta tell you -- it is really, really hard.

Just as hard, I would imagine, as shouldering the sense of foreboding you feel and can't shake, yet putting one foot in front of the other to move forward.

Props to all of us doing the best we can in these intense times.

:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:


:loveya



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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:44 AM
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31. This is my view
as the pendulum swings in one direction, it will swing back. Our species is overall, an optimistic one. The phrase that I have said to myself when undergoing times of great stress and misery is "This too, shall pass."

We, collectively as a society have been experiencing significant changes that have exponentially accelerated through my lifetime (I was born in 1965). While there have been expansions of freedom for the underrepresented in our society, there have also been large increases in imprisonment, poverty, bankruptcy, disease, debt, family disintegration, mental illness, addiction, warfare and illiteracy in the face of unprecedented economic gains for a smaller proportion of society. The good news about the bad news is that a reset is sorely needed and will provide the opportunity to reverse these trends. The great unveiling of the lie and the resultant cries of anger and anguish and the new realities of living are necessary to build a better design. Remember when the Madoff swindle was unveiled? It will be like that but on a broader scale.

A legion of opportunities will be there for better lives to be made, only not the kind of life we considered to be "better" just last year. It will just be a matter of who is willing to let go of that and who will not. As Rick has said many times, we have been prompted by the planetary energies this past year to let go, clean out. Inside and outside. Remove what is not working for you-- in your home, emotionally, in your job, in your life.

Like pruning a garden and getting it ready for Spring, or a stem cell transplant ...
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 10:02 AM
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32. I agree with what you said so eloquently, eilen.
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 10:08 AM by OneGrassRoot
I think you and others see an impending collapse, leading to a rebuilding of a much stronger, loving society.

I happen to see the same, perhaps not with specificity, but in general. Perhaps the difference in our outlooks has to do with the "collapse" scenario. Releasing the old and what doesn't work, to me, doesn't have to entail horrendous, widespread suffering. That's obviously one scenario, but I believe it can happen with less suffering than is currently anticipated by some.

A complete shift and restructuring, the likes of which has not been seen in our history, is something I think we all want and feel is upon us. Yet we have no touchstone for a "positive" huge awakening and transition; there's no correlate, we have to truly imagine it. I think because in our known history there hasn't been a peaceful, graceful seismic shift, it's hard to imagine that it can indeed happen. Our minds won't let us accept that potential reality, because we've never seen it, heard of it, nor experienced it.

Maybe this is why we absolutely must live from the heart now. A huge muscle we need to learn to flex.

;)

:hug:


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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 10:11 AM
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35. To add, given northernlights' reply above....
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 10:40 AM by OneGrassRoot
I fully recognize the extraordinary widespread suffering that ALREADY exists. Everywhere.

I'm saying it doesn't HAVE to get worse. That's one scenario, but scenarios and resolutions that are completely new to humankind can evolve, imho.

:)

Edit to reinforce, as MG said yesterday (I'm paraphrasing), that we should prepare for the worst but actively hope for and work toward the best, giving energy toward allowing that scenario to manifest.

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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:46 AM
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41. What an incredible thread - great points!
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 11:46 AM by Proud_Lefty
My sister's life sucks. I've tried introducing her to tools that should help her, and she has even tried to use some of them, but none of it seems to help her in the least. It goes back to sucking really quick. I finally gave up with an extremely sad heart. Off the bat, I can think of quite a few others that fit into that category as well. It is very discouraging and depressing.

I've tried to look deeper at some of these people and try to understand why their lives only seem to go from bad to worse and even worse, with only a slight glance of sunlight here and there. In several situations, I saw these people really hoping to be at the top of the mountain without having to spend any time on any other part of the mountain. And ego was almost always involved in these particular types of people, thinking they were better, smarter, prettier and much more deserving of this lifestyle than commoners like myself. Instead of just working side by side with the rest of the world, they would do everything to find a shortcut and knew that their lives just needed that one break to push them over the top. What has happened instead is everything they touch goes bad and has been spiraling downward at faster and faster paces. The negativity blended with the ego has been incredible difficult to even be around.

I introduced one gal to spirituality and explained how to manifest what you want. She quit her job and tried to manifest a new life for herself. Instead of actually pounding the pavements, she was absorbed in meditation trying to manifest a new, more exciting job. She always went on or on in her FB blogs about how the Universe was taking care of her which confirmed she was on the right path, using examples of when myself and others sent her money to try to help her through some real tough times. I had to stop helping her because she seemed so far off base to understand my rationale for it. She eventually lost her daughters because she couldn't afford her apartment any longer, she had to live with her brother and his girlfriend. It was mindboggling how bad her life was getting and she refused to look at it and deal with it. Finally now, she got a little job and is finally moving forward, towards getting that apartment and her girls back from their dad. But it was heart wrenching to watch it from the sidelines.

There's also a lot of crap happening to a lot of other people where ego isn't involved in any way. There aren't that many jobs out there and the cost of doing anything keeps skyrocketing. On top of that, there are more people sick than I ever remember. Food, water and air are all compromised. Toss in a lot of stress and we are being pushed to breaking points. Even the most balanced people I know are showing signs of buckling under this extreme pressure.

Despite all this, I see those with positive attitudes making their journey much, much, much easier than the ones with the negative attitudes. Personally, I can't even give my negative friends much support because I can't handle any more negativity than I absolutely have to. I don't want to abandon people in their time of need, but I just can't go there to be pulled down, and I don't want to go. It doesn't help either one of us at all. Don't get me wrong. I do give these people an ear if they need to vent or want some feedback, but to wallow in negativity is a sure way to make the whole situation worse. When people smile through their pain, the pain begins to lessen and doors can open a lot easier. We also can't abandon the common sense we'll developed in our lifetime for sustaining a comfortable living.

I hope and pray that this world turns around much easier and more people than not make the transition without all the pain that seems so prevalent today.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 03:12 PM
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43. I join you in that prayer...
"I hope and pray that this world turns around much easier and more people than not make the transition without all the pain that seems so prevalent today."

:hug:

:loveya:

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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:13 AM
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38. yes, OGR
It is really, really hard work to restore positive thinking and manifest love while working through negative thoughts and feelings. I stopped posting in here for a long time because, from my exhaustion and lack of time, I no longer could count on expressing my disagreements civilly and respectfully.

And it is equally as hard to keep putting one step in front of the other when you don't see any light on the horizon, or when the light has turned out too many times to be a train coming right at ya.

I've been through both extremes in the last year. Right now I have a little window of time and energy, so I'm back for a bit. I'll probably be ducking in and out for the next couple weeks, until late March when it's back into the thick of it...

:hug: :hug: :hug:
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:23 AM
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39. I always love it when you duck in...
though COMPLETELY understand and empathize with the other times. As I said, I'm the same way.

Funny, in an odd way, the community here at ASAH (without realizing it) is a lifeline for me during those darker times when I grow silent. I have a bit of an addiction to reading various places online, regardless of how I'm feeling, and inevitably there's something that draws me in to comment, and leads me out of my funk.

;)

Godspeed to you, northernlights. I look forward to hearing about some uber cool manifestations soon as you find yourself in that flow once again.

:hug:



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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 03:17 PM
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44. I'm glad that you're at least temporarily back in the fold, NL.
:hug:

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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 03:40 PM
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45. back at ya
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 10:23 PM
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46. absolutely!
feeling energized in the collective consciousness. :grouphug:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 07:34 PM
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49. Notice how it has spread to Libya and even to Wisconsin?
Watch the beautiful Trend.
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