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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:42 PM
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Happy Mothers Day from Matthew
What a treat! I've really been struggling with the Osama bin Laden story lately, and this helped put some of it into a whole new perspective that finally gives me peace of mind.

http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=135&z=2

7. The members also agreed that something dramatic was required to get the peoples’ attention; however, because it is your world, it was up to your leaders to decide what that would be. Announcing that members of other civilizations are among you required resolving myriad details before it could be properly presented, and the suggestion that all truths be told straightforwardly was vetoed because there was no agreement as to which should be revealed first—in essence, which finger should be pulled out of the dike. Some felt that would best be achieved by announcing the death of Osama bin Laden, the officially accused mastermind of “9/11.” They felt that announcement could be veered into exposing the truth about the horrific events of that day almost ten years ago, and it would eliminate fear in the people who believe what they so often have been told: No one is safe as long as bin Laden is alive.

8. Only when that suggestion was raised did some in the group, including US President Obama, know for certain that the man had been dead for almost a decade, and those few vehemently denounced the suggestion. But since no one had any other idea that would get the attention of the world, the majority voted to “kill bin Laden” and later publicly explain why that story was released.

9. It can be argued that deception to achieve a positive goal is “better” than deception to embark upon a negative goal. It is not our desire or our purpose to judge the decision, much less judge those who made it, but only to relate the information given us by Earth’s monitors in Nirvana. They do not know how the explanation for the decision will come because the responsible parties are still discussing strategies for the next steps.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 06:41 AM
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1. "had been dead for almost a decade"
8. Only when that suggestion was raised did some in the group, including US President Obama, know for certain that the man had been dead for almost a decade, and those few vehemently denounced the suggestion. But since no one had any other idea that would get the attention of the world, the majority voted to “kill bin Laden” and later publicly explain why that story was released.

I distinctly remember seeing OBL's death scrolled on HLN in Dec. 2001. It only ran a few times and then disappeared. I haven't bothered to chime in on any of the grave dancing threads, just disgusting, imo.

Thanks for the thread, PL! :hi:

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:12 PM
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7. I did say it on one of those threads and was subjected
to some of the vilest of rude replies.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:39 PM
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8. Oops wrong post.
Edited on Tue May-10-11 12:39 PM by Cleita
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 03:59 PM
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10. I won't even argue it on DU. I know what I saw and have paid extra attention since.
Sorry someone was rude, Cleita. GD can be so vicious.
:hug:

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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 11:47 PM
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14. There's a lot of rude people in GD
I used to think it was from the stress of coping with the Bush administration, but now I realize many of them are just mean spirited. I rarely ever post out there.
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:15 AM
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15. It all fits
The powers that be keep everyone in fear so we happily hand over all our powers from the little bit we have left. When this war on terror doesn't keep us in enough fear, they find a face, give it a name to show us with a whole bunch of made up stories, which keeps the terror within us alive, keeps the industrial military complex machine alive and keeps the money flowing their direction away from us. Americans hate bin Laden based on what our government and media tell us about him and what he supposedly did. Funny how we were completely caught off guard on 9/11, yet they had the names of all hijackers and the mastermind leader within one hour of the attacks, and they never deviated from that finding after a more thorough investigation was completed! Oh yeah, that's right - no investigation was even started. Yes, there was a 911 Commission after a lot of pressure, but it was turned into a joke and no one was ever held accountable for all the flaws and deadly mistakes that happened that awful. Never understood why people accepted the official word so readily, even though it never made sense. To this day, Americans, even in my own household, believe that bin Laden is so evil that he doesn't deserve a trial, just a shot in the head. Why? Because we are to believe what we are told without asking questions, and many of us happily oblige.

On the other side of the coin, his officially announced death diminishes our fear for this war on terror. The people are now wanting to get our troops out of Afghanistan because for some reason, they feel safer than they did before with OBL's death. Something good is coming out of this. However, the lies and deceit coming out are so damn tiring.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 07:15 AM
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16. Don't forget that OBL denied he was behind Sept. 11
That day, I think, or soon thereafter, there was a statement from him saying he had nothing to do with it. Now, if a terrorist had pulled off the biggest attack on American soil with the greatest loss of civilian life ever, which is their whole reason for existing in the first place, doncha think he'd be pretty proud of the fact? And later the news stories changed to "Oh yeah, by the way, he says he did it." And yet again, in our continuing shock, most of us never questioned anything.
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 09:06 AM
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17. People only hear what they are designed to hear
I was telling my husband about the coincidence on 9/11 - Cheney's terror drills that matched the actual attacks perfectly, same day, same time, same location, same method, same building, everything, the drills that confused and kept the air marshals and military from reacting like they are designed to. He never heard anything about it and said I'd have a hard time proving it. It was brought up in the 9/11 Commission hearings! It's public record, but most people don't know anything about it.

I never heard that OBL denied 9/11, but I knew I never heard him take responsibility directly for it. Interesting. Another piece fits perfectly. I wish more people asked more questions or opened their minds to think things through. We are so conditioned to live inside our little boxes, and so many people are so happy that way.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 01:45 PM
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20. I doubted right away
I remember the first thing I said to Mr. MG when I came home after a very, VERY long day at the TV station was "Where were the intercept planes?" I wasn't political then, but even I knew that when a plane is hijacked/goes drastically off course/loses contact with air traffic controllers it's intercepted by military jets. But they were up at the Canadian border doing drills, far FAR away. And NONE were available? Not one? Way to leave our borders unprotected.

The same thing happened for the 7/7 bus and underground bombings in the U.K., by the way--the important emergency response folks were away doing drills. Stinks to high heaven (and my, how unimaginative they are, to recycle the lies).
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 09:31 PM
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12. Didn't the French say years ago that he had died of kidney disease?
For some reason I remember hearing he was on dialysis. I think it was back in 2003-2005 era.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:10 PM
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19. He could have gotten a kidney transplant but it would
have to have been a really covert transplant.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 03:15 PM
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2. Yes, I always thought he was dead too
and that they knew it. They kept trotting out those videos with bin Ladens of assorted sizes and body shapes menacing the world, it was like a bad comedy. Chimpy said that bin Laden wasn't important to him, I always suspected they thought if they admitted he was dead that they couldn't get away with their invasions, surges, and colour coded threat matrixes.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 03:37 PM
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3. Me three
So if this is a "close the chapter" bit of fiction...so be it, I guess. If it puts the rabble's minds at ease. :shrug: I like to think of Obama saying "Okay, time to end this." I really couldn't picture him going along with yet another boogie-man video; maybe this was the compromise instead of the government admitting they've been lying about Bin Laden for 10 years. Because they NEVER admit they've been lying. About ANYthing. x(
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:20 PM
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4. This is a good one, as always.
Poignant and true, I wish everyone could read this!
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 11:51 AM
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5. sometimes
I just don;t feel much resonance with the message...

and the dna piece is a little confusing to me

...but of course i like the idea that more light is coming to the planet!
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Dream Girl Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:00 PM
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6. Wouldn't that mean that OBL wives,Pakistan, Navy Seals etc. are
complicit in this? Doesn't make sense to me. Can someone help me with this? Usually Matthew's messages work for me. But this is just weird. FYI - I have believed that OBL was deal for a long time, so was shocked with the announcement of his killing.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:42 PM
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9. I think most of us with some psychic insight
have thought he was dead for some time. I can't believe we could all be wrong. Then there was the left handed thing. He was said to be left handed. The man they killed was right handed. Something is not right here. There is a Muslim thing about the left hand being unclean so you had to eat with your right hand even if you were left handed but I don't know how they determined he was right handed.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 05:07 PM
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11. Interesting. n/t
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 06:30 PM
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23. I think its the other way around.... You do so much with your right hand,
that you eat with the left... It would be the "cleaner" hand.. and in the old days with no sanitation and little bathing.. not eating with the hand you wipe your ass with would be a great way of preventing dysteria.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 10:43 PM
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13. Benazir Bhutto said OBL was dead.
Shortly before she was assassinated, she was interviewed by David Frost and said OBL was dead, in passing.
Nobody followed up on it.
I heard it on the Mike Malloy radio show.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:09 PM
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18. I remember her saying it and the media said she
meant to say Danny Pearl, the journalist. I don't see how you get the two mixed up, a fundamentalist Muslim, who wears tribal dress and facial hair with an American journalist who is Jewish.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 05:35 PM
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21. That's right, I remember that now.
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:07 AM
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22. Check out this article on the assassination
I've been reading this site for a while, and they seem to have interesting stuff to think about.

http://tbrnews.org/wordpress
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