An astrological reading on OWS? Can the astrologers here

[mother earth]

oblige for the highest good? I refuse to believe winter will kill this movement. In fact, I believe with all my heart that this movement is the beginning of a return to representation of we, the people. TIA, & Namaste to all!

[kimmerspixelated]

1. Me, too. I feel extremely excited by it all.

Like we can really make a diff! Forget the elected officials...it's always been us! There is the parallel with the universe and all things connected as well. It's always been within us!

[mother earth]

2. I feel that too, and now the masses have awakened.

[kimmerspixelated]

3. Yes, Yes, Yes!

And the coffee is already brewed and the cups are ready!

The Big Dipper is pouring us a big hot steaming cup o joe!

[mother earth]

4. I like your exuberance! I'll join in that cuppa steamin power!!

[kimmerspixelated]

14. The excitement is really hard to contain, plus

it's not every day that I'm noted for my exuberance! HAHA:hi: :hi:

[Matariki]

5. What do you mean by "oblige for the highest good"?

in relation to an astrology reading? Not understanding your post.

[mother earth]

6. Guess it's just habit, asking for something for the highest

good...take it out of the equation if it bothers you...didn't mean to imply it would not be.

[Matariki]

9. It doesn't bother me, I didn't understand.

Are you asking for astrologers to interpret the position of the planets in a particular way? I'm confused.

[mother earth]

10. No, not in a particular way, just on a particular subject, OWS.

I guess I wanted a reading on this "entity" since on some threads here, some have said they see it dying out in the winter months. I guess I am looking for reassurance that it's here to stay, that it is truly an awakening. I am looking for more of a "birth" reading I guess, if such a thing can be applied to this movement.

[Ricochet21]

17. The problem is

there can be no "reassurance"

But

It is very likely given all the givens

[Why Syzygy]

12. if I may ..

I think she means the act of an astrologer to spend their time, oblige (as a favor to the highest good). In honor of ..

[Matariki]

16. aha. thanks you. now I understand.

[Ricochet21]

7. It has been written about for the past 4 years

it is the second American revolution
It is all I have written about for a long time.
Pluto is approaching opposition to the USA's Sun
that means a new identity crisis
we have identified (that's what Pluto does) the impediments to our growth as a national entity
no surprise here
it's the BIG MONEY CORPS
The people have risen in accord with new Uranus in Aries; put the two together and you have a new revolution, a real revolution
it's in the planets and it's on earth

nothing
happens
unless
the
planets
indicate
it

and vice versa

Time to redefine who and what we are
Even to the pt of what defines a "human"
very elementary

What you are seeing is real.


OWS has just started, there is no stopping it, it's in its infancy
We cannot predict the future, but if you put it all together, it's the rebirth of the American People. my 2 cents

[mother earth]

8. Thank you. I guess it's official then, the 2nd revolution is

OWS...at least the beginning of it. Knowing that it cannot be stopped is important.

I just went back to read your newsletter, they are always great insights. I look forward to reading more on this subject.

[Ricochet21]

11. It is so hard to "predict"

we have never been here before. But, Pluto is pushing this or else it's our demise. We're doing pretty damn good, I think. Thank god for OWS EVERYWHERE.

[kimmerspixelated]

13. Pretty Damned Danged Good,

I'd say!

[sandyshoes17]

15. I've never been so inspired.

My whole life nothing has given me hope as OWS. They are the future and I thank them for each battle they fight.

[Ricochet21]

18. I feel the same

in the midst of all these "wrong" revolutions comes the "right" one

It's gonna make the 60 miniscule in comparison :hi:

[Why Syzygy]

19. IIRC

I'm pretty sure I read a comment in ASAH that since the *birth* time is not known literally, a birth chart is not really possible.

There are astrologers in the wild who have taken a shot at it (with house placements dependent on what time is chosen)
I'm fond of the sunrise time idea. They also vary on the place of inception.

http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/occupy-wall-street

http://darkstarastrology.com/occupy-wall-street-protest/
Occupy Wall Street Horoscope

So in the chart for Occupy Wall Street it is not surprising that Uranus is square Pluto by less than two degrees. Interesting Pluto has “stood still” on September 17, stationing ready to turn direct again. Pluto is the masses, and we can see that moment as people gathered in the park as a turning point, a call to the global community for action. The people gathered and stood still in the Park, ready to embark on their revolution.

occupy wall street horoscope 150x150 Occupy Wall Street ProtestUranus square Pluto was not only spurred on by the station of Pluto, but it was also activated that day by Venus. Venus is opposite Uranus, square Pluto. Venus here can represent to desire for fairness, equality and peace. These are qualities associated with the Sun sign Libra, but that is only because it is said that Venus rules Libra. Above all though, it is the planet Venus which rules harmony and peace.

Venus also rules money, so with Venus activating Uranus square Pluto the revolution is about economic equality, socialistic values. Explosive outbursts directed at the aristocracy. The Uranus Pluto conjunction in the 1960′s saw peace protests. This time around with the square there is still an underlying peace movement feel but these values are definitely more linked to the economy, particularly the perceived failure of capitalism.

Many of us have been predicting economic disaster, a complete failure of the capitalist system. Astrologers and now even some economists are saying “depression“. Billionaire George Saros wrote on September 27, “Financial markets are driving the world towards another Great Depression with incalculable political consequences.”

I believe the Occupy Wall Street movement is a manifestation of our collective fear about where the global economy is headed. The finger is being pointed before the final economic disaster. The is shown n the chart by the Midheaven (MC), usually representing the leader in a mundane chart, but in this case it would be the collective. MC conjunct the fixed star Zosma gives the “ability to prophesy“.

The movement represents not just a need for change of the financial system alone. There is the desire for peace which is linked to finance, so much money wasted on death and destruction. There is also an environmental factor, the feeling we need to move away from the burning of fossil fuels which is raising global temperatures and sea levels. We can see this in the chart with Sun opposite Ceres because Ceres is the Earth Goddess associated with environmental concerns.
Occupy Wall Street Future

All the square and opposition point to a big struggle. But that how it should be, if they were easy trines and sextiles there would not be the motivation and everyone would still be blobbing in front of the idiot box. With Mars trine the Ascendant there is the energy and motivation for this movement to keep going.

The movement will of course face strong opposition. Pluto not only rules the mass movement but also police and spy agencies. Uranus square Pluto can manifest as a Cyber spy: Thomas Ryan. The Descendant (DC) in a chart rules partners but also open enemies. These open enemies will take the form of police and behind them government and money men. With the fixed star Algol on the DC we can expect violence, batons to the head.

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As far as I'm concerned, it started at the moment Pluto stationed direct.
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[mother earth]

20. Thanks, WS, for clearing up the previous confusion & this.

I think everyone understands that a "prediction" of sorts cannot be part of an astrological reading, the reading is mainly of planetary influences at any particular time. Any reassurance I am seeking is purely on a personal level.

My gut tells me this is the beginning of a transformation that is going to be collective and while it will take years, it's incredibly uplifting to see the birthing of it. I have felt it is the real deal from the beginning. I do think the other side to this, the provocation being instigated by outside forces is a twist that is being seen for what it is and measures are being taken to guard against this. I also think if there's any lull in OWS, it will only come back stronger and more organized and will be a force to be reckoned with politically. That's my take, having nothing to do with astrology, which I leave for those better suited to that task.

[Why Syzygy]

21. I'm not much of a history resource ..

only what I hear in passing. So forgive the sloppy details.

Clif High was talking about this in a recent interview. He used the analogy of Valley Forge. Before the American Army could get on with their victory, they had to survive a long brutal winter. If a *movement* is managed controlled opposition, it is neat and tidy. Starts on Monday, all done by Friday. Fake. An authentic movement has twists and turns, bumps and slumps. It doesn't take a straight line. So far, we've got authentic :bounce: .