Something that has been bugging me

[FreedomAngel82]

I don't know if it's me being biased or what (I usually can tell but I'm not too confident on this) but it seems as time goes on that I get this powerful pull towards Kerry being president sooner rather than later. Again, I don't know if it's me being biased or what. I don't get any clear sense on the VP but I do know it'll be a shock to us all on who it is whatever that means. So I'm wondering if anybody can shed any light? Thanks.

[LaurenG]

1. I get nothing on anyone

I wish I could help. I feel like I'm going through a fairly dry season right now. It' a little scary when you feel as if you're blindfolded. This sounds very interesting though.

[FreedomAngel82]

6. Oh I know how that feels

I have a shield around me from something that happened and now I can't feel spirits quite like I used to. I can though for the most part. I've went through a "dry spell" before myself and I didn't like it. It felt weird and like there was something wrong with me but it came back soon. :hug:

[LaurenG]

7. Thank you for that hug!

:hug:

[FreedomAngel82]

11. Sure!

:D :grouphug:

[Cleita]

2. Could it be that they have been working behind the scenes

to prove the Ohio elections were fraudulent? How would that work? Would they impeach Bush and then install Kerry to finish this term? There is no precedent for this and not being a lawyer, I don't have a clue as to how they could do this. I surely wish it would happen.

[ebayfool]

14. They can't install Kerry, no matter what happens w/*ush.

Once sworn in (in January), whether fraud is later proved or impeached or whatever, *ush is officially it. If he's bounced out on his booty, then there's a chain that follows for who is installed as prez. First Cheney (or whoever is VP) is up, if for some reason VP isn't around then it goes down the line. I don't remember the exact sequence, but if you do a search it's on DU.

Scary thought ... part of that chain of command could end w/Hastert, Rice, Rumsfeld, et al.

[FreedomAngel82]

19. But according to the Constitution if

it's proven someone cheated to get sworn in they must be impeached. So if you can prove the other person won he/she will be sworn in. If we get back the House and/or Senate in the midterms we can prove election fraud with the help of John Conyers (he can bring in David Cobb, Ralph Nader and Cliff Arnebeck) and they can prove it and we can get rid of Bush that way and than try him for war crimes as well (and hopefully off to the Hague!).

[ebayfool]

29. Ummm, no - that's wrong. No matter how much we like the idea, it doesn't

work that way. As of the swearing in that took place in January, Kerry is no longer a part of that chain I mentioned above.

"So if you can prove the other person won he/she will be sworn in."


As far as in being in the Constitution that "... if it's proven someone cheated to get sworn in they must be impeached" - I must have missed that line in there. High crimes & misdemeanors, yes. Must - is more like can, isn't it? I'll have to dig out my copy & look it over again. But Kerry will have to wait for 2008, whether *ush is impeached, run out on a rail, or resigns. He isn't a factor in the chain other than what he is able to do for us as a Senator, which in & of itself is alot!

Wishful thinking doesn't make it reality. If *ush is outta there, we still don't get Kerry till the next election rolls around.

[mother earth]

3. If they ever expose the election fraud, you might be right.

I hope your feeling comes to be. It's just the way I've been feeling lately is like our Dems. need to develop some backbone and REALLY shake things up. ANYTHING is better than the silence. Seems that everyone is commenting on how even with all the boundless corruption being exposed on a daily basis, the best they seem to be able to do is still not rock the boat.

If they think they will have more numbers after November, I think they need to wake up. The voting machines haven't changed & still have a lot of the same problems. I gotta read BradBlog everyday just to keep my hope alive.

I hope you are right on and more is going on behind the scenes than we are aware of.

[FreedomAngel82]

8. It's just so strange

I've never felt this before but it's like every day the pull feels stronger and stronger. I don't get anything on a VP (whether it's Edwards or what just that it will be a big surprise whatever that means again) but I do with Kerry. I am a big Kerrycrat but this isn't that. I just feel it all over my bones and in my soul. I've never felt anything like this before. The only other time I've come close to feeling this type of feeling was a few nights before the election I got a message that Bush will be brought down. No time frame or anything like that. Than late October I had a vision of Kerry being sworn in. And also the Kerry/Edwards sign flashed around inside my eyes (ALL OF THIS is my eyes and NOT my third eye which was amazing to me) but the strange thing is Kerry's name was bright and Edwards name was just there. But at the inaugration he and Teresa did have on coats but nothin heavy which was strange because the inaugration is usually in January and it's cold than. I didn't see a VP but I did see his daughters, stepsons and of course Teresa right there with him. It was the clearest vision I've had and the longest. I got a really good look around and the people were very happy and you could just feel DC have a lighter mood with Kerry there. I have had a vision of Bush once going up the steps of the SCOTUS all by himself and than another time him leaving on his helicopter and looking really sad when he was leaving. It was like he was looking at me. :shrug: Oh and something else I just remembered is that at the inaugration it felt more like fall than early winter. :shrug: People weren't wearing heavy coats and hats or anything like that. Teresa wore the same outfit she wore at the DNC convention 2004 when she spoke and Kerry had on a long black coat over some nice dress pants (I'm sure with a shirt and tie of course and for some reason I'm seeing a red stripped tie).

[Quakerfriend]

4. I hope you are right, Angel. Sylvia Brown said that she saw

Bush would be sworn in as president but, that she also saw Kerry as president.

I gave up hope for this after the Kerry team dropped their Ohio lawsuit.

[FreedomAngel82]

9. But two strange things with this though

In my vision as mentioned in my second post on this is that it felt more like fall than winter and nobody was wearing much coats. Kerry had on a long black coat and gloves and Teresa was wearing the outfit she wore at the DNC Convention in 2004 with a coat. Nobody else though was wearing anything thick and heavy. :shrug: I could actually feel the air and it wasn't that cold at all like in January.

[MissWaverly]

13. I had a weird flash about Bush today

I saw him alone and dejected, he looked chilled to the bone but it was an inner chill and
there was like a blueness everywhere, like a pale almost like an indigo, what you see before
dawn, whether that's depression or his aura, I don't know.

[FreedomAngel82]

15. Interesting

What does the color indigo usually mean where it concerns auras?

[MissWaverly]

24. You are a genius! Check this out: on Bush aura

Looking at the color chart, the color is more like "lavender" Life Color 12. Great site
too!

I enjoy fantasy and make-believe more than the “real” world.
I have a difficult time managing money.
I tend to spend a lot of time alone, daydreaming.
I am often forgetful and frequently “spacey.”
People accuse me of being irresponsible and unrealistic.
I have difficulty dealing with everyday responsibilities.
I am an imaginative and creative thinker; however, I usually have trouble following through with my ideas.
I seem to be out of my body more than I am in it.
I prefer to work in relaxed, low-stress environments.

http://www.auracolors.com/test.htm

:-)

[crikkett]

18. I had a similar dream same morning 3/7!

it's recounted here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=17611&mesg_id=17798

[MissWaverly]

23. that is a weird coincidence

maybe if several of us have the same reading; we could put a (x2) after the subject line.

This is so weird.

Miss Waverly

[MissWaverly]

5. I haven't felt anything about him lately

But I am really hoping now that it's Al Gore, who gets in, he clearly won in 2000 and
never supported the Iraq War, I really want an environmentalist in with all this Global
Warming damage being ignored.

:-)

[FreedomAngel82]

10. Oh Kerry is an environmentalist

He does really care about the enviornment and talked about alternative resources during his campaign run. It's one of the big reason's why I'm such a fan (well one of them anyways). I don't feel anything with Gore running again. But what I do sense is he's more than likely not going to as compared to Kerry. Of course this is just me and anything can change.

[MissWaverly]

12. glad to hear Kerry is an environmentalist

I am really concerned about the environment and about nuclear proliferation and the
trashing of this country with poor economics, outsourcing and runaway corporate greed.

[FreedomAngel82]

16. Yes

He talked a lot about how his mother got him into the enviornment because she loved it.

[liberalla]

17. And isn't that also how John Kerry and Teresa Heinz got together?

They were both at some environmental thing in South America, and this is when the dating started (though they had met each other previously).

Here we go:

"It is a shared passion for the environment that brought John Kerry and Teresa Heinz together. They met at the Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, where she had been sent as delegate by the first President Bush. That was 12 months after John Heinz, a potential presidential candidate himself, died in a plane crash. She and Kerry subsequently bonded after he recited a prayer - in Latin - at a Mass they both attended."

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,1130604,00.html

I hope your right---I would love Kerry to step in. I like Gore a lot too. We definitely need someone who is concerned about the environment.

[FreedomAngel82]

20. Yes that's right!

:D And I remember watching PBS' special on the 2004 election and they talked about John and Teresa getting together and a friend of his remembering the account and John was worried people would think he was marrying her because of her being formley married to John Heinz and the money and all that. His friend told him if he loved Teresa to not worry about that. I thought it was so cute!

[MissWaverly]

25. It almost inconceivable to think of someone capable and caring

as our leader again.

[SheilaT]

21. It helps to know exactly how the succession works.

If anything happens to the president, the v-p steps up. If the v-p slot is vacant for any reason, there's a process for the president to nominate a new v-p who is then approved by Congress. If there is some terrible disaster, there's a chain of succession that goes like this:
* Vice President
* Speaker of the House
* President Pro Tempore of the Senate
* Secretary of State
* Secretary of the Treasury
* Secretary of Defense
* Attorney General
* Secretary of the Interior
* Secretary of Agriculture
* Secretary of Commerce
* Secretary of Labor
* Secretary of Health and Human Services
* Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
* Secretary of Transportation
* Secretary of Energy
* Secretary of Education
* Secretary of Veterans Affairs
* Secretary of Homeland Security

The 25th amendment (1967) clarifies all this. Here's a link:
http://www.doctorzebra.com/prez/a_amendment25.htm

No matter how much you'd like Kerry to become President, the soonest it can happen is January 20, 2009. There is simply no way the 2004 election results will be rolled back. No matter what might happen to W or to Cheney, there's a line of succession that simply does not include Kerry, except possibly if some awful, horrible disaster wiped out every member of government senior to him, so that the junior senator from Massachusetts is now next in line.

In short, ain't gonna happen.

[Sanity Claws]

22. If dems win the Senate in 2006,

who would be the president pro tempore of the Senate? Generally it is the most senior ranking Senator belonging to the majority party. Who is the most senior Dem Senator? Byrd? Could the majority make Kerry the president pro tempore of the senate, even though he is not the most senior?

Just thinking out loud.

[mother earth]

26. Just how does it all work if the election were proven to be a

complete and total farce? Yes, there's a line of succession, but if the election was truly stolen, we would be in uncharted territory.

[FreedomAngel82]

27. Beats me

All I know is what I feel. :shrug: Sorry I don't have any answers.

[SheilaT]

28. President pro tem of the Senate

is, according to Wikipedia, is elected by fellow Senators and is usually the senior Senator in the majority party. Kerry isn't even close to being senior senator.

Again, please think back to Nixon and Agnew (or do a google search if you don't recall it). The vice-president resigned (because he'd been taking illegal kickbacks while Governor of Maryland -- Agnew was an especially corrupt Governor) and Jerry Ford was nominated by Nixon to be the new V-P and was confirmed by Congress. Then when Nixon resign, Ford became President and he nominated Nelson Rockefeller who was then confirmed. Notice, despite a Democratic Congress, all those guys were Republicans.

And just because an election was a complete and total farce, they don't get overturned. Look at the Tilden-Hayes fiasco of 1876. It was a complete circus and in the end Hayes, who lost the popular vote, became President. Both 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen, I'm completely convinced of that, and yet I know that it simply is not going to happen that anything will be changed and Bush will stop being president, even if somehow Democrats got a super majority in both houses this fall. That's not the way they do things in this country.

Our real choice is to do our best to see that this fall's elections are actually free, fair, and honest, but I don't really expect that to happen. In 2008 we need a candidate who won't be afraid to tell the truth about how awful the Bush administration has been, and who won't be afraid to strike back immediately every time they try to smear him or her. But none of the supposed front runners will do that. They're too immersed in the business as usual aspect of politics. Maybe some relative outsider would fight the good fight.

As I've said many times, the people currently running this country came to power in a coup. They know that. People who come to power don't give up that power readily, least of all in anything so silly as a free, fair, and honest election.

[mother earth]

31. Thanks, SheilaT, I am also convinced 2000 & 2004 were

hijacked, but have always been hopeful somehow that it would be discovered & justice would prevail. In my heart, I know you are right & are realistic in how we should go forward. How is it that the Dems. could even think their numbers will increase, if it was stolen then, it'll be stolen again to maintain what they achieved which is complete dominance.

[leanin_green]

30. I don't know, I get a REALLY strong feeling about Gore all the time.

He just seems destined to do something very important to me. Mostly because of how he handled himself after the 2000 selection. He didn't try to remain in the spotlight or keep his hat in the ring. When he was asked to speak, he spoke his truth how he saw it. I think he has found his voice, but no one is really listening. Not enough to act on what he says, anyway.

[japple]

32. I have a strong feeling about Gore, too.

He has given some major speeches at very important forums, which were not covered at all by MSM, and he has been busy trying to make the liberal media a reality. One unrelated thought I have had: all this talk by MSM talking heads and gop parrots about "liberal media" just might make it so.