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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:18 PM
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Something Sylvia Browne said today.
I missed most of the show because I had a medical appointment, but I got home in time to see the last five minutes and at that time she said something about not dwelling on negative thoughts, because if we think bad things will happen it will attract those things and help make them happen.

I was thinking that this is what many of us are doing here at DU. We are obssessing about all the negatives of the Bush administration, especially now a looming war with Iran. Now I know it's hard to find a positive with this present government.

However, maybe we should start concentrating on possible scenarios that may make such a war not happen. I'm creating a play in my mind where enough Republican Congressmen object to this and all the Democrats do and refuse to give the WH a resolution for a war with Iran. I am also creating another play where the Pentagon refuses to mobilize for this.

If maybe everyone does this our positive energy might change what looks like is becoming a done deal.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:27 PM
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1. I think this is so true, Cleita
Even refusing to entertain the possibility of war can be helpful.

I had an experience as a little girl that made a big impression on me. I was taking penicillin, and my hands began to itch (as an adult, I developed an allergy to penicillin). After a while, I noticed I was getting large "bumps" all up and down my arms. I became hysterical, and, each time I looked at my arms, a new "bump" appeared.

Well, my mother called the doctor (in those days, they made house calls), and, while I was waiting for him to come, I heard a voice in my head telling me not to think about the "bumps". So, I purposely put my thoughts elsewhere, and, by the time the doctor arrived, the rash was gone.

Thank you for sharing this with us, Cleita.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:50 PM
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2. I've been trying this for a while now.
It's fun, and I swear that it sometimes works. Like the socio-political version of avoiding self-sabotage.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 03:55 AM
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3. I think it is probably true
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 03:57 AM by rumpel
Several books talk about thought being an energy form, writing and actually putting them to words supposedly brings it closer to manifestation.
Ever since, I have been trying very hard to be positive. This is extremely difficult, as when crisis strikes, you have to weigh all options and scenarios including negative ones. Negativity however paralyzes, and therefore any creative solution will not materialize.

If past present and future is not linear, this means the future is now and the past is now, then it is conceivable that your present thought for a future event has already manifested in the now and is in the past. A mind twister but a theory of space/time. :)

I have a very strong feeling that the Iran conflict will not spiral down that path, and in my mind I am trying to overrule the many, who say it will. Sending positive energy to those in power to be able to evolve, perhaps.
I do not believe on the global consciousness level people want another conflict, and yet at the same time they resign to the negative thought, as if it was fact.

Bush & Co unfortunately has reversed the course of Iran, which I thought was loosening it's grip of theocracy. With the invasion of Iraq he re-ignited the extremism out of total ignorance and disrespect of the history and cultures of the different peoples in the Middle East. The world is reacting out of fear of, what many believe, to be an obsessed man, so the threatened countries like Iran elect an equally obsessed man.
While the rest of the world watches, as if to say, what is this fool going to think of next.
He has never learned to walk in someone else's moccasins. People have started to see that and are now saying enough is enough.

Technically, I think the previous resolution has already given him a carte blanche, he can pre-emptively strike any country.
But high level military officials are reportedly saying they will resign, what a relief to know we have them.
I will send them all positive energy of support.
I do not think it will get to that point, but I agree, we should envision refusal to obey orders, and hopefully we the people will envision and demand the administration to resign for gross mismanagement and endangering this country and many others.

It will take a lot of healing & positive energy=thought. So let's start.

:hi:
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:14 PM
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4. Thank You, Cleita, for your most timely reminder:-)
Suddenly, I now remember that we are in a Holographic Universe - that our True Essence is God/dess-The All That Is-and our focused thoughts intended from our True Self can create a more peaceful, loving, healthy & prosperous scenario.

It helps me immediately when I turn within vs internet/tv/newspapers i.e. the deeply scary outer 3-D movie-to the feeling of the Divine Presence's Energy within=ever & always there waiting for that slight inward turn. Merging full time is my goal-but alas one forgets so easily....Thanks again for this wonderful reminder. Focusing NOW....
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 12:48 AM
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5. Clieta
Be careful because Sylvia Brown manipulates.
Feel freed to Ignore her"advice" if it causes you stress,or unnecessary shame,. Spiritual wisdom if it is genuinely spirit sourced does not have mind traps and games embedded in it OK? Genuine spiritual wisdom does not require you to become a psychic self censor and erase your own thoughts because of some metaphysical theory. That is Mentacide and it is a sign of evil.

Don't feel guilty for thinking bad stuff or feeling bad when bad stuff bothers you, it is NORMAL and natural. If you try to blot out your bad thoughts as if it is all your fault the world is the way it is,you are putting a huge undeserved unrealistic burdensome guilt trip and mind game upon yourself. And that is not being kind to your own mind.

I suggest if you want to, acknowledge the negative thoughts as part of who you are right now,accepting them as they are,without censoring them or attaching unnecessary superstitious meanings on them Or those over loaded sick beliefs from sylvia brown's warped imagination on top of it all. It's hard enough just to feel bad and think about why all by itself. Show your mind and shadow side some humane empathy.

Bad thoughts that don't pass away easy ..can be explained as a minor injury ,a hard knock from life in this world . Think of it like this maybe..if you bruised your arm a while ago and it looks ok now..and you forgot you hit it.. but today it hurts when you move it a certain way..if you don''t remember you hit it a week ago, you might wonder why does my arm ache..and you might worry about it..until you remember OH? yeah I banged it last week it's still sore... Than it's no big earth shattering deal your arm hurts you might even put a warm heat pad on it or take some motrin.. Because you know why you can care for it. The pain goes away..

Bad thoughts that circle around are like that sore arm. Expressions that were not expressed fully at the time you felt it can keep kicking until they are acknowledged. And this is NORMAL.. Try asking yourself ( Put aide your expectations and assumptions about making your thoughts be good or bad for a minute).
Ask what is moving under this recurring bad thought? What is this thought trying to relate to you really? Than once you understand what the original cause and the motive is for your recurring bad or confused thoughts,and you let go of your reaction or feelings, about the contents of your thoughts you can ,really look and observe your thought process without shaming your Shadow side,and let it have a voice and say. Your shadow having a voice does not mean it has control over you or the world understand? A shadow part only gets control if you repress it and reject it and deny it a say. If you look in the light only,the shadow falling behind you only gets darker clearer defined and bigger and by time you realize your shadow was trying to speak it has gotten way out of proportion..If you keep denying the dark a voice and pretending it is not a valid part of what you are,it will take control away from your ego to speak because the shadow self is a necessary function of the psyche..as valid as the censor and the spirit.

The shadow can help you be honest,if it is listened to and understood and accepted..that does not mean it is always obeyed. Listen however unpleasant it is for the shadow is a teacher.It can help you know yourself if you accept it and don't disown it or worse censor it or kill it by stopping your thoughts by force of a scared or guilty will.

If you work with aspects of yourself as a relationship instead of censoring the parts you don't like as if the world's happiness all depended on monitoring and regulating what the contents of your thoughts are, you will really understand why you feel bad,than the "dwelling"aspect of the bad thoughts fades away all by itself.

This is because if you listen to all pieces of your thoughts what originally motivated the bad thoughts inside comes to your conscious awareness and this is why bad thoughts sometimes keep jabbing you. When the mad,sad or confused feeling is expressed without it being 'cloaked',or as a bad thought or as something else because you are not insisting on telling yourself your own bad thoughts are what makes the world evil.It stops repeating..

Look,the world was evil before any of us were here ok? Your thoughts do not cause my suffering,your thoughts don't cause your suffering.Your mind resists being shackled to the internal censor forcing it to conform to an unrealistic ideal from a pseudo- pop-psych huckster that your inner psychic censor wishes was true and another part of you (censored) thinks is toxic to your mental health.

Don't play word/faith games with your own mind.It is crazy-making. And I really find sylvia brown to be a cunning manipulating curmudgeon and I really think she is disgusting.Her soul stinks..like old stale socks,puke, and over used cat litter to me.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 05:22 PM
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6. I know a lot of people don't like her and you seem to be one of
them, but I think there is quite a bit about her that is genuine. And yes, I do believe that she's a money grubbing huckster in many ways. It doesn't make her 100 percent a charlatan because she does seem to have a rather impressive score on being right.

I don't obsess over negative thoughts if that's what you think because I know you can't always control them.
My point was that negative thoughts can create bad vibes and situations. It's just that Sylvia reminded me of that. I find this negativity becoming pervasive here on DU and we need to take that energy to a positive place and to resay a trite phrase make lemons into lemonade.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 12:35 AM
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7. I agree, Cleita
Hatred only brings more of the same. Sometimes I see it as a game of "king of the mountain" with two groups fighting one another and no one really getting anywhere.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 09:12 AM
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8. Somehow I missed this thread. I think that there's a difference...
Edited on Sun Apr-30-06 09:12 AM by I Have A Dream
between having a negative thought and relishing/immersing myself in the negative thought. I think the latter happens quite a bit at DU. I can totally understand why it happens, but I personally believe that it does add negative energy to the situation rather than the opposite.

I think that it's very important to admit to any thoughts or feelings that we have because they will otherwise be locked away in some hidden area of our psyche where they can do all kinds of damage. However, when I have a negative thought, I try to just simply continue from there rather than basking in it or feeding the energy. (For example, if I'm angry with the B* regime, I feel my anger but I don't feed my anger by going to General Discussion or General Discussion:Politics because that just gets me worked up about it. I go to these forums when I'm feeling balanced because I can then more easily maintain my balance regardless of what I'm reading.)

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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 01:12 PM
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9. Glad you brought this back up, IHAD. It seems to me that dwelling
on things that cause negative energy is not productive. If we can acknowledge the anger, fear, or other negative energy without dwelling on it, we can keep from being sucked into a morass of despair and hate. That way we can focus on bringing in more light to the planet to overcome the darkness.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 01:37 PM
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10. I worry about being absorbed in what is happening. But I don't envy
Edited on Sun Apr-30-06 01:44 PM by higher class
the many people I know who may not have negative political thoughts because they lock it out So in regard to time spent at DU.......

I think I'm in a better place even if it fills me with negativism. Is it because I am obsessed with making sure I know what is going on, plus the grief I feel at the loss of what I treasured since I was a child? To me, I'd rather take the path that reveals the stuff that could make me negative rather than lock it out and be bombarded if things get worse - but, soar if things get better because I was there looking at the negative stuff and worrying and can now revel in the positive because I knew how bad it had become.

I now believe that peaceful protesting can be a great negative fighting act that serves several purposes in one.

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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 05:43 PM
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11. I didn't advocate "locking out" negative political thoughts. I'm sorry
if I didn't make it clear. What I meant is that if we become bogged down in negative energy, we are giving the darkeness power over us. If we try to remain neutral or, as someone on a previous thread suggested, observers, we are able to send much more healing light to our mother (earth) and ourselves. Peace.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:53 PM
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12. I think I got off on my own path - my disappointment with those who do
lock it out. It is a very fragile subject in that it is difficult to find a balance -just as you have presented the necessity of it.

Back to the struggle. I use to be a better practioner of thinking positive thoughts. I need some extra help, I think.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 09:44 PM
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13. We had happy thoughts under Clinton. Somehow we got *.
We should think happy thoughts of * and the whole group in jail for life.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:44 PM
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14. But under Clinton, few were concerned about warding off * or his tyranny.
Edited on Mon May-01-06 10:45 PM by BlueIris
I and lots of others I knew during the Clinton years were happy, sure, in a complacent, "Everything's getting harder, but better" sort of way. Lots of potential for change, even if it was coming slowly. And even in the last, dark days of the Gore campaign, no one I knew, even those who worked in professional politics, has much of a sense of what was coming. The happy thoughts we had as a society, and the optimism many felt even after the Bush "victory," weren't designed to bestow light, positivity and protection upon this society as I doubt more than a handful of folks grasped how badly it needed to be protected.

'Kay, if you can't bring yourself to get happy about the future, even for five minutes a day, which, well, I understand how that could be difficult--at least try to avoid feeling too pessimistic, terrified or otherwise negative. Imagine yourself in the light even if you can't do that for the rest of us because of your pessimism (again, understandable). The best advice I got during the 2004 campaign was from Kerry's wonderful staff, and it was right at the top of every list of guidelines for canvassing, talking to undecided voters and encouraging the uninvolved to take action they handed out: resist despair. Making us feel as scared and helpless as possible is one of the ways that * and his handlers oppress us. So, don't let them. Good luck.
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