A dream I had 2 nights ago

[WolverineDG]

I was there as an "observer" (best way I can describe it). I knew somehow I was on the outskirts of Houston, but it didn't look anything like Houston. (I have been someplace like this before, when I got a dream about a hurricane in the Gulf that no one would pay attention to for one week--hurricane Brett in 1999 IIRC; if you want more on that, pls pm me, as it's a long story)

First, "we" (but I didn't recognize any of the other people I was with nor do I recall seeing them, I just "knew" they were there) heard a loud <<BOOM>> and what I saw resembled what happens at a refinery when someone makes a mistake....they have a big fire-off on the stacks. Since my brother works for a refinery in the Ship Channel, at first I was worried that this took place where he works, but when I saw the smokestacks, I knew what had happened & so I didn't worry about it too much.

But then, all of a sudden, I see behind the "refinery" three silver clouds forming & think "OMG, no" as I watch them turn into mushroom clouds. One big one, surrounded by 2 smaller ones. Even though we were "close" to Houston, no one seemed worried enough to run, but I did & then stopped, & had this fatalistic thought "oh well, it was bound to happen anyway." I can't recall what happened after that, just that when I saw the clouds, I realized the loud "boom" that I heard was not from the refinery.

I didn't get a timeframe.

Someone please tell me I shouldn't be :scared:

dg

[davsand]

1. Did it "feel" different than your dreams usually do?

I don't know how else to phrase it, but did your dream feel more REAL to you somehow? Was it more a feeling of being the observer participant than it usually is?

For me, the important dreams are more REAL somehow than the usual message dreams. Sometimes that is how I can tell if it is my mind doing the "daily message dump" or if it is something to pay particular attention to.

If you feel afraid then it is something to pay attention to--even if the clouds and sounds in your dream are only personal messages rather than precognition.

There are some in this forum who are quite good with dream work. I hope they weigh in soon for you.


Laura

[WolverineDG]

2. it was a lucid dream

& those tend to be more "real" than others. the last dream i had where i was in a similar landscape (very barren, like i was only seeing what needed to be seen, hence knowing i was around houston & only seeing 1 refinery) did come true a week later, albeit in my dream hurricane brett made a direct hit on corpus christi & many people died & in reality, it came ashore between corpus & brownsville. i was living in corpus at the time too, so maybe it was a warning?

i hope this dream wasn't a precognitive, but it was very similar to precogs i've had before.

dg

[Quakerfriend]

3. Several months ago there was a guy who posted on DU

named "Germanguy" who claimed to be able to decode encripted messages sent back and forth btw. members of the CIA etc.
"Germanguy" claims to have been an ex agent for German gov't for many yrs.

Anyway, I remember him writing that there would be a dirty bomb "accident" in Houston on 12/26/05. I remember the date because it was so close to Xmas. I wonder if he meant 1/26/05????

Oh, Horrors.......I perish the thought.

He has his own website. But, I don't recall the details.

I will say that his writing seemed very credible!

Also, he was saying that this would be planned and carried out by our gov't (just as 9/11 was, according to him).

[Pallas180]

5. I could believe

about 9/11 - as a matter of fact, I do -

but why his home state?

I hope he's wrong and just off the wall.

It's a very frightening idea - but unfortunately it could be highly possible - and not even by our own govt.

[davsand]

6. I had that same thought when I read that dream.

I didn't want to elevate an already creepy situation (that HAD to be an awful dream) but I flashed back to that same thread and the discussions that evolved from it.

Here is the original thread from GD:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2846220

We have the asswipe polling at under 40% approval (somebody commented on that in GD today. I have no link to support that.) THAT news coupled with this kind of dream leaves me feeling a bit chilled because I honestly think there are people who would kill to help that approval rating or else clamp down on the country.


Laura

[hvn_nbr_2]

4. How do you mean the term "lucid dream"?

The conventional meaning is that it's a dream in which you know that you're dreaming while the dream is happening, but people often use that term to mean simply that it's an intense dream or something else like that. I can't tell from what you said which way you mean it.

In what way(s) was it similar to precog dreams you've had before? That might be very informative to know.

[WolverineDG]

7. lucid meaning

i was aware i was dreaming at the time, but was "awake" in the dream. as i said, the landscape was barren, being both real & surreal at the same time. "Real" as in seeing a refinery & "surreal" as in not seeing anything else remotely looking like the area around houston, yet "knowing" that's where i was.

again, i couldn't get a time frame, but fwiw the last time i had a dream like this, it was one week prior to the hurricane. i hope this isn't a precog or if it is, i only saw the worst case scenario.

dg

[yellowdawgdem]

8. probably nothing too terrible

First of all, usually when a place seems not like the real place, and the people are also unrecognizable to you, it is equivalent to dream geography/landscape, ie, Houston-like. Since you've had precognitive dreams before, and have a similar feeling about this one, it is possible that there will be some kind of an accident, or terror event in Texas, or in a Texas-like place. Also that would match up with the mars-pluto conjunction starting tomorrow- the one that keeps being mentioned. My gut feeling is, that if there is any kind of an event in Texas, that it will not be extensive or cause long term damage, such as happened on 9/11. Mars/pluto seems more prone to actual accidents, such as collisions, train wrecks, and events that begin and end suddenly. (Not sure if uranus is involved, in early pisces? )
Also, I agree that the Bush admin. would not purposely damage their own home state. If anything, maybe it could be an action by enemies of the regime, but probably not dem activists. Maybe cia enemies, or folks who are higher up in the govt. :)

[Pallas180]

9. Actually the dream may have come true already - after this dream was

posted, I think a couple of days after there was the news announcement
of the radiation link at the nuclear plant in Michigan.

A nuclear plant could look like refineries in a dream - and the radiation is there...(even though they deny it..."we closed the plant down before there was any real danger" - yup - like three mile island? and Chernobyl?

Anyway, I would associate the timing of the dream and the nuke plant in Michigan. Detroit I think it was.

Boy - if you're not keeping a dream notebook, you should be.

[yellowdawgdem]

10. Mich. nuclear plant could relate to the dream

The timing is very close, and does describe those mushroom cloud formations. I guess we will just have to wait and see if anything else happens on thursday or friday- I guess friday the conjunction is exact, isn't that right? I'm actually not necessarily connecting the mars-pluto aspect with the refinery dream. However, it does seem likely that when the conjunction is exact, there'd be a likelihood of greater violence, or bigger impact. Yeah, it makes sense to me that we should pay attention to people's dreams, I mean, if you're havin' 'em, it's for a reason.

[WolverineDG]

11. thanks pallas

i had heard about the leak at the michigan plant on the mike malloy show & had a sinking feeling in my stomach. maybe i associated the scene with houston because my brother does work at a refinery in the ship channel.

as for a dream diary, i'll start keeping one, but the only dream i recall since this one was very convoluted & ended with me trying to clean a room or a house & having to keep taking down spider webs with huge spiders looking on watching my every move...very weird & nerve wracking...but i was told, the spiders wouldn't hurt me as long as i told the truth & they wouldn't hurt anyone else who did the same. :wtf: no, i wasn't on drugs & didn't eat any mushrooms before going to bed. ;)

dg

[Pallas180]

12. I would take that to mean

that we here at DU are being monitored by Big Brother...so what's new?

we knew that. :)

[WolverineDG]

13. yeah well

it's always a good idea to tell the truth...at least it helps you keep your stories straight... :P

i've always pictured the big brother types as rats, not spiders. besides, the bb types don't care if you're telling the truth or not, only that you are toeing the correct party line. all hail great leader!!!! & crap like that.

i got the impression that these huge honking spiders were lying in wait for ANYONE to lie so they could pounce on them & are related somehow to doling out some really bad karma to deserving souls. (although with this current admin, you'da thunk they'd pounced already.)

dg