Mars conjunct Pluto and the galactic center on Saturday ???

[stellanoir]

Mars will conjunct Pluto really close to the galactic center Saturday at 5:00 am EST. That former aspect only happens once a year unless Mars retros over Pluto. Pluto in relative proximity to the galactic center only happens once every 247.7 years (not including retro cyles that can occur for one to two concurrent years within that cycle.) The last time was vaguely pre Revolutionary War, French Revolution, and Industrial Revolution times. Holy Moly.

Of course that was around the time of Uranus's discovery. Thus the operative word was "revolution."

That conjunction potentially represents the transformation and purification of and possible enlightenment of the individual and collective will.

Or as some cynical though funny people say "afgo" (another "flopping" growth opportunity)

Still, a collective effort might just quell a boatload of destructive urges. With the consensual dialogue about the war amping up. What do you guys think we can do with our group consciousness to goose a speedy resolution and inspire more folks to realize that violence solves NOTHING and manifest a true and lasting peace ? A restoration of justice wouldn't hurt either.

I sorta feel like harnessing our fingertips and hearts and minds at yet another group effort again.

Any ideas?

[rumpel]

1. Wow, Stella this must be in the collective consciousness

The past few days that I immersed myself in the Pluto 12th House, just last night, it occured to me that perhaps some of us have unfinished business from 247.7 years ago. I was in fact reading up on the wars around that time; the French and Indian Wars, the Iroquis and leading to their 5 Nation pact of peace, which is said to be the basis of the Constitution of this country.

Cassie's karmic readings got me really interested on this, as I myself moved a great distance close to 30 years ago to where I am now, which I understand moved my AC and my MC. That got me thinking on the soul level, why? Anyway...

I think, we are unfortunately repeating mistakes of past history as a collective, but fortunately many souls have evolved since -

Today, I went through my unread e-mail box and signed as many petitions that I agreed on and felt worthwhile to sign.

As a collective effort, all I can think of right now is to mediate on peace - meditate on a state of being for this country to have healed - every moment I can give
Not fear what the lunatics are planning, but knowing they have already failed to garner support & means.

[stellanoir]

2. I just read your very thoughtful response to Chemical Bill

on my "stellaphone." We had previously been joking about how we both had appointments for the past several decades recorded that we've both dutifully transcribed onto our astro calenders.

I said after I read your 247.7 reference, "Yeah I've got stuff from that period on a Celestial Guide somewhere around here." LOL

But more seriously, I've been pondering the possibility of those who have evolved, collectively consider the possibility of projecting a dream to all our leaders suggesting that they recognize the unquestionable error of most of their ways and to no longer repeat the more than obvious and pathetically non productive "mistakes of past history."

Ho Hum.

They could consider just stepping down and going away, if we would only all thought about it intensely enough.

That may sound crazy, but I've been thinking about it a lot of late, and it's no crazier than our "misleadership" has been for the past 6 woh-ful years.

Interesting about that period of history though. I heard one guy interviewed, I can't recall where, who had written about how the history of our country is generally taught as the Pilgrims>>>>>>>cut to the Revolutionary War. Ummm there was roughly a century and a half that transpired between those two events. It was interesting for sure, especially to me who has roots in the general region where King Philip's War occurred, though not to closely. Our natives were matriarchal, signed a peace treaty, and sadly died of "white man's disease."

Petitions are great in terms of a collective surge. Meditations are great as well. But I think another prayer might just be in order.

Thanks for your response. We've a day to figure it out.

[I Have A Dream]

3. I am your humble servant, Lady Noir.

I have no specific ideas, but I'll be ready to do my part once the plan is finalized. I'll happily be one of your foot soldiers.

:)

[stellanoir]

4. Dearest dream

that would be Madam Noir to you. Hurrrumph.

Just kidding. An old school chum of mine used to refer to me noar funnily that way, as Mdm Noir.

But I don't need no stinkin' supplicants or footsoldiers. (to humbly paraphrase the most hysterical Mel Brooks.)

We need collective ideas. And I'm sure you have more than a few at your disposal.

The energies available are now exquisite and quite unlike anything we've ever experienced before. I've been feeling that for almost a lunation. It's as though the veil between potential and reality is somehow subtly diminished. We have better access now IMHO. I can feel it in the sunlight. Maybe it's the sunlight. Maybe it's the comet McNaught. Maybe it's the conjunction. There's magic afoot methinks.

I know in my heart and soul that we can now proceed differently and more unconventionally.

I semi trepidatiously hover on horizon's edge waiting to pounce ever so carefully.

If only we can figure out how the heck to harness and direct those energies in a concerted way for the greatest good.

That's all I'm prayin' for and tryin' to stir up.

Love your willingness nonetheless, but I'm a collaborative type and am a lousy boss. (major schmuck)

Thanks for the support nonetheless.

[LaurenG]

5. I am totally in on this with you, Hubby and I will start tonight

I honestly believe we can make a difference Stella and your reminder here is timely and extremely important (you the see'er sees I see, lol).

But more seriously, I've been pondering the possibility of those who have evolved, collectively consider the possibility of projecting a dream to all our leaders suggesting that they recognize the unquestionable error of most of their ways and to no longer repeat the more than obvious and pathetically non productive "mistakes of past history."

I think the best way for us to do this is to gather our thoughts before bed tonight with the intent of working together as a group and sending laser beams of light to whomever is pulling the world strings. This just to soften them up for tomorrow when we "project a dream to all our leaders suggesting that they recognize the unquestionable error of most of their ways and to no longer repeat the more than obvious and pathetically non productive mistakes of past history".

I suggest we all call them forth and beam the holy light right into them. Rumpel has reminded me that they willfully cover their deceitful selves under cover of darkness, however if anyone else is willing to experiment, tonight would be the night to start to crack their shield.

Never underestimate the power of the causal plane, I would make that the place to meet during sleep, not the astral plane as it can get too unruly in there.

What say you guys? :7

[Delphinus]

6. Hi Ohio,

I'll do my part tonight!

I know it doesn't take an awful lot of the world's population to effect change - estimates have had it around one-half of one percent of the total.

[LaurenG]

9. Yay,

you are a brave soul as well. :7 :hug:

[stellanoir]

7. LOL ". . .not the astral plane asit can get too unruly in there. . ."

Hey you think it can get unruly in there? Sit tight I'm gonna put an astro thread about this aspect in GD sometime this afternoon.

I've done spritual stuff in there but never astrology. So this should be truly interesting.

Thanks for your and Mr OB's support in this.

[LaurenG]

8. You can't be a sissy and be a bright light , Stella

Let us know asap and we'll be there. What job title did you say you signed up for this time around, lol? :hug:

[stellanoir]

11. "celestial schmuck" LOL

Had to take care of some stuff in RL. . .

Something magical to do tonight. . .(might be a weak title-but I'll see what else comes up- on second thought maybe I'll go with our victory mantra from the election day thread and entitle it as "Oooga, Boooga, Woooga, Smoooga")

If you guys have the time you can suggest which title you think will capture the imagination of more views and responders or suggest other titles. Meanwhile I'm gonna craft the thread in another program and do some serious cutting and pasting.

But here's my intro at present. . .

Okay before I begin, as some of you are aware, I've posted in the past about spiritual approaches to political problems in the past and though the vast majority of responses have been amazingly positive and supportive there have been a couple of naysayers. That's fine as I do enjoy a lively cyber discussion. However, aside from an effort on the Solstice, I've rarely referenced astrology in GD. This is not intended to be a thread upon which to argue the merits of astrology. It is a soft science, an experiential art, and like any esoteric tool, is often more notorious for it's misuse by manipulators, and fatalists, than for it's true though trancendable essense.

Disclaimer: any spiritual suggestions I put forth are only intended to be SUPPLEMENTAL to more traditional forms of activism.

Tomorrow at 5:00 am EST, astronomically Mars will align itself with Pluto and the Galactic Center. . .

Then I'll integrate some of the stuff from the OP and what rumpel inspired based on her thoughtful and synchronous imput.

Should have the draft posted within an hour or so. I've been pondering this for a while.

Thanks to you all. You are the absolute best !!!

[mother earth]

10. So with you, Stella, Ohio, Dream and all! A revolution for the

greater good!

[stellanoir]

12. kicking for feedback before I post the draft.

[mondo obscurius]

13. This

This could be dynamite. They say the best way to bring down a structure is knowing just where to put the stuff. That's one thing.

The other thing that occurred to me is about what kind of thought would be most effective and likely to be understood by the receivers. The natural world has a built in telepathic net. The animals use it and it's very effective. Anyone who's lived with cats and been loved by them for any length of time can attest to how that works. Some say they communicate with images that have lots of kinesthetic and sensory aspects to them. IT make sense to me. What about taking a few tips from our feathered, finned and furred cousins and see if the earth-grid can carry and amplify thoughts projected by the group as (maybe) only two or three positive chosen images.

I know this is just a technical post and not about the contents of the message, but what about using this as a chance to try a creative approach honoring the Life of the Earth - trying to use our true inheritance as children of this beautiful planet? I'm sure the experiment would have her blessings.
:donut:
mo

[stellanoir]

15. thanks mondo dear : )

I may add my "second and fourth trick" in your honor.

"2. Visualize the planet bathed in a regal violet-purple light at least
momentarily once daily. It is s really easy to project violet-purple
light when earth icon appears on your screen. Consider scrolling down
at the link here. . . . http://www.lovearth.net/

(Violet-"Purple rain, purple""reign". . . : )

It can be that simple and easy for those who are unaccustomed to routine
visualization. For reasons I'll explain in far greater specificity in
a subsequent version, violet-purple rays of transmutational light will
gently wake up several sleeping souls and solve problems, ages old in
many places and will ameliorate even circumstances most dire. Focusing
on regions most conflicted (D.C., the MidEast, Iraq. the Gulf Coast ,
and the entire continent of Africa. . .etc) will help as well.

(For those of earthier orientations who unlike many spiritualists,
don't necessarily resonate with the violet-purple vibration, another
alternative suggested by a differing source would be to project a
vibrant green around the globe. That color will most likely hasten the
healing of our woefully damaged ecosystems and many sad and bleeding
hearts as well. )

3. Inspire as many smiles as is possible in each and every day by cracking
as many uplifting jokes as often as is possible especially with
strangers. Uplifting jokes are opposed to those that are mean spirited
and denigrating (see a certain "fearful leader"'s so-called sense of
humor for reference.) You see, the best humor is never intended to be
expense of others though sometimes and more funnily seems to be at
expense of self. Humor may be the tonic for these times and is may just
be orientation that unifies us all regardless of our religious
orientations. Some astrophysicists have suggested the the primary
chemical component at the very center of the universe is NO2 (aka
laughing gas.)

4. Figuring eight whenever you sense imbalances, and/or once daily for just
a minute or two. Here's how one can do that. . .

"Eighteen years ago I was guided to raise my hands over my head and
envision my spiritual source. In a similar manner, I have also drawn
down specific planetary and solar and lunar energies at various times,
as well. I visualize energy descending through my left arm and crossing
over to the right side of my body between the nape of my neck (where
central nervous system wiring switches over from one side to the other)
and my heart chakra. Then the energy goes down through my right side and
through my right leg down to the center of the earth where it merges
miraculously with Gaia, and then loops back up returning to earth's
surface then travels up my left leg up the left side of my body crossing
over to right side. Again it passes between my heart chakra, and the
nape of my neck, and then goes out my right arm returning to my
spiritual source. Over time and with a modicum of practice it scarcely
takes a nanosecond to enact but has greater effect if simply sustained
for a moment or two. (Has anyone noticed that we've had far fewer
natural disasters since I humbly sent this a year ago?)

Energetically it balances higher and lower energies. It can be useful
for many who feel disconnected, stressed, or concerned about the
apparent extreme imbalances between potential and form, of which Gaia
appears to be processing and releasing now at an unprecedented rate.
Whenever in doubt, maybe go figure 8.

In my heart and soul, I know that if enough true souls practice this
when spirit moves them to do so, many of the the severe earth changes
and extreme weather conditions, and their awful, and most harrowing
repercussions that have occurred, are still expected over the next few
years will be mollified, and conditions of suffering and hardship on the
planet will be ameliorated more expediently, and far more gently than
they would be otherwise if a plethora of true souls would not do so.
It's as simple as that run on sentence suggests. : )"

[stellanoir]

14. here is the draft. . .

Rip away. . .I'm going to dine out shortly but will hover for a while. . .


Here's an initial effort. This is ONLY a first draft and I'll be tinkering with it over the allowed editing period. So if anyone has suggestions, please "refresh" before responding over the next hour as it's likely to morph continually as per "stellaphonic" suggestions.

Subject line. . .

"Oooga, Boooga, Woooga, Smoooga". . .Something magical to consider doing tonight. . .

Okay before I begin, as some of you are aware, I've posted in the past about spiritual approaches to seemingly intractable political problems and though the vast majority of responses have been amazingly positive, fun, and supportive, there have been a couple thought provoking nay sayers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2589421

That's just fine with me as I do enjoy a lively cyber discussion and as the founder of my dinky little state who supported religious tolerance when most states did not, so aptly put, “to hold forth a lively experiment, that a most flourishing civil State may stand and best be maintained, with a full liberty of religious concernments.”

More from that wise one here. . .

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/to-err-is-human-to-forgive-is-divine-but-this/397173.html

However, aside from an effort on the Solstice, I've rarely referenced astrology in GD. This is not intended to be a thread upon which to argue the merits of astrology. It is a soft science, an experiential art, and like any esoteric tools, is often more notorious for it's misuse by manipulators, hustlers, and fatalists, than for it's true, though trancendable essense.

My most successful clients have intuitively known when to buy, move, sell, move, merge, and marry. I've only needed to say to them, "Yup you're right on the money again."

I would guess for that natural gift of timing is a gift that fewer than five percent of the population truly possess. Most want everything yesterday and impatience may indeed be the quintessential not so "original sin."

Take it or leave it. Astrology either helps or confuses some and was never intended to be a convoluted rationalization for "b-b-b-a-a-a-d behaviors."

Yet perhaps, consider a momentary effort in collective participation in "a lively (cyber) experiment" involving a fleeting focus of consciousness, for free, free, free and maybe for the highest good of ALL.

Disclaimer: any spiritual suggestions I put forth are only intended to be SUPPLEMENTAL to more traditional forms of activism and for entertainment purposes only. :)

ASTRONOMICALLY, Mars will conjunct Pluto really close to the galactic center by longitudinal measurement, Saturday at 5:00 am EST. That former aspect only happens once a year unless Mars retros over Pluto which is a total rarity. Pluto in relative proximity to the galactic center only happens once every 247.7 years (not including retro cyles that can occur for one to two concurrent years within that broader cycle and the year of the conjunction's occurance particular year.)

The last time this occurred was vaguely pre Revolutionary War, French Revolution, and Industrial Revolution times. Holy Moly. Just in terms of historical significance, consider setting the "wayyy back" machine and pondering all those inspiring pamphlets that may have come in the years to follow, possibly birthed of the events that transpired back then. We just may be cyber pamphleteers here. :)

Of course, that was around the time of Uranus's discovery. Thus, the operative word was "revolution."

That conjunction potentially represents the transformation and purification of and possible enlightenment of the individual and collective will.

Or as some cynical though funny people say "afgo" (another "flopping" growth opportunity.)

Mars is oft represented as solely "the God of War." Sure, it represents that unbelievably stupid behavior ad practice but it represents sports as well as a bunch of other things. One could speculate on whether either of those manifestations are entirely healthy. War is clearly not. Yet sports certainly are for the individuals involved though the degree to which some individuals project onto sports figures can unquestionably be massively disempowering.

A healthy Mars governs that sense that we all have periodically, that we have something unique to contribute to the planet. It also rules the solar plexus, the immune system (warrior cells,) the adrenal and testosterone levels in the body, and ahhh. . .the libido.

Still, a collective effort in prayer might just quell a boatload of destructive urges. With the consensual dialogue about the war amping up. What do you guys think we can do with our group consciousness to goose a speedy resolution and inspire more folks to realize that violence solves absolutely NOTHING in efforts to manifest a true and lasting peace ? A restoration of real justice wouldn't hurt either.

I've been pondering the possibility of those who have evolved, collectively considering projecting a dream for all of our leaders to experience suggesting that they recognize the unquestionable error of most of their ways and to no longer repeat the more than obvious and pathetically non productive "mistakes of past history."

Ho Hum.

They could consider just stepping down and going away, if we would only all think about it intensely enough for a short spell.

That may sound crazy, but I've been thinking about it a lot of late, and it's no crazier than our "misleadership" has been for the past 6 woh-ful years.

Interesting about that period of history though. I heard one guy interviewed, I can't recall where, who had written about how the history of our country is generally taught us about the Pilgrims>>>>>>>cut to the Revolutionary War.

Ummm. . . there was roughly a century and a half that transpired between those two events. It was interesting for sure, especially for me who has roots in the general region where King Philip's War occurred, though not to closely. Our natives were matriarchal, signed a peace treaty, and sadly died of "white man's disease." Ughhh.

Petitions are certainly great in terms of a collective intent. Meditations are certainly great as well. But I think another prayer might just be in order.

Here's one that may require more than a little tweaking. . .but time is short.

"On this unquestionably auspicious juncture in time, I co create with spirit that those in power who believe they can live above laws long established, will have tomorrow, on the threshold between sleep and wakefulness, a divine awakening to universal law. That those individuals may finally realize and be truly cognizant of the absolute universal truism that violence solves NOTHING and never has done anything but "perpetuate (even more heinous) retributions." May they be tweaked by the "cosmic parole board" in their sleep, and recognize the gross errors of their ways and change their approach for the greater good of ALL. Or may they be truly exposed for what they are and surrender forever their positions of assumed power."

We argue a lot about impeachment. Though that is clearly warranted, resignation would truly be far more expedient.

Addendum from a dearest of friends:

"My thoughts for a new agenda.

We don't need a new agenda. All the basic human desires for survival, have and are being, superceded by a non sustainable collective consciousness. Risk of loss of safety at the most primitative levels by enforcers of centralized thinking have had drastic effects. The promise of anything outside of our dependency on life and our present physical manifestation is downright dangerous.

Our resources from Mother Earth to nourish the numbers of us must be put into perspective. Perhaps it's too late I hear but I don't really know. I do know that killing each other as a sanctioned act endorsed by any organization of man, is criminal in intent, regardless of latent reward. (or reward after death)

When will we collectively ask ourselves individually where are the limits we must set for ourselves regarding the consuming of the resourses to sustain us as a species? Remember your mother doesn't care! She will, just as happily, a human charachteristic I might add, provide for glowing cockroaches long after we are gone.

Any questions. . .?"

"nam-myoho-renge-kyo"

[Squeech]

16. Plutocrats

It occurs to me that, 247.7 years ago, Pluto hadn't yet been discovered. One thing I was told was that new planets manifest (i.e. reveal themselves, i.e. get discovered) when the complexity of human affairs ramps up to require it. This may not be conventional wisdom in the astro community (as is often said of other interest groups, two astrologers, three opinions) but I thought I'd mention it.

Thinking about the history more, and not being real familiar with it, I believe that there wasn't yet much of a revolutionary consciousness in America, a sense of wanting to part company with Mother England. There was the French and Indian War, what we would now call a proxy war, England vs. France but fought on colonial soil. My sense is that the colonists still thought of themselves as English or French even as the home countries used them as cannon fodder. Also King George wasn't crazy yet (you recall he suffered from phenylkenoneuria and ended up talking to the portraits on the walls, and as a result governance suffered and the colonies had to be squeezed for revenue, but this was still in the future). My vague recollection is that it wasn't until Parliament passed the tea tax and the Stamp Act that the colonists got alienated by England's increasingly obvious exploitation.

Interesting that Pilgrims ===> Revolution appears to be a national trope. I grew up in Lexington, MA, which prides itself on being the spot where the Shot Heard 'Round the World was fired (by the redcoats at us; we didn't actually get it together to shoot back until the action moved to Concord a couple hours later). Anyway, I was taught history every year as a grand arc culminating in the events of 19 April 1775-- indeed, we have a display up in our high school that reads "April 19, 1775: What a Glorious Morning for America."* I always assumed that the weird shape of our history classes was designed to exploit the local color, and I assumed that kids in Texas got taught a similarly distorted program that exaggerated the importance of the Alamo.

*Way off topic: the year I graduated, some of my classmates snuck into the auditorium and moved the letters around on that sign to make it read "April 19, 1775: What a Morning to Screw a Gorilla."

[stellanoir]

17. Okay

I've done yet another edit and have another incoming, have gotten some feedback that the thread has gotten more than a little convoluted. Maybe I should just cut it to the prayer and the addendum. Not sure. Any feedback would be as ever deeply appreciated.

[stellanoir]

18. okay I did it 9 hours lat but it's a weird time of the week to post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3111016

[rumpel]

19. 1 am and I got to post

now I am going to contribute in my dreams -

cheers Stella. OP Mind Crime's OOga Booga seems to be happenin' too :rofl:

btw I have been checking the global consciousness "dot" it is alternating between green yellow and orange

[stellanoir]

20. What pray tell is the global conciousness dot?

Is that a personal visual or an on line thingy?

I'll go google it since it's still early for you.

Thanks for chiming in.

[rumpel]

21. study parked at Princeton

not a Princeton thingy per se - It is a group of scientists
They are measuring (don't understand too much about the technical aspect of it) shifts in the global coherence - I believe energies 24/7.
There are shifts, case in point, the most dramatic before 9/11 and immediately thereafter.
The group receives requests to quantify and analyze shifts from meditation and other groups. The Transcendental Meditation group has the most amount of data, and shifts are "dramatic", according to the scientists.

Here it is:
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/ Wow yellow - still

When you go to the "results" link at the bottom of the page you can see several data analysis. The Noetic Sciences scientists, including Rupert Sheldrake, Dr. Calleman (Maya Calendar) Joseph Giove from InfinityAffinity.org (also IntendedBalance) are all part of this research. Joseph is in the process of creating an organization which meditates every day for peace, instead of on special occasions - scientifically quantify - also involve law enforcement to measure crime rate drops - Which actually happened in a DC experiment.

What I see is all different groups with different methods and backgrounds all over the World are converging now. Everyone is preparing for May (I think) 23, 2007
which apparently is going to be huuuuuuge.

Exiting stuff. People will start to realize Oooga Booga works...
:rofl:

on edit: what I find most fascinating is that these events have certain predictabilty elements indicators and such possibilities (which they are trying to figure out) because the "global consciousness" measurable energies do shift, regardless of whether people consciously acknowledge or "know" something is up or not.

[I Have A Dream]

22. I can't believe that your thread currently has 26 recommendations!

Even OMC recommended it! You're amazing!

:woohoo:

[wovenpaint]

23. I just read your post in GD

WOW! Great post-You must be smiling away! (added my rec to that impressive total) I'm sending out that prayer even if it's a little late-or is it?
I want one of those teeshirts too.....ooga booga smooga wooga!!

Oh, and BTW, hi neighbor! :hi:

[rumpel]

24. helderheid's ooga booga T-shirt!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3114354&mesg_id=3114354

:rofl:

[stellanoir]

25. woh that was wild

31 recs on a rushed, sloppy, choppy, and totally non edited post. And great T shirts to boot. Too funny and ironic really. Thanks for everyone's help.