Problem with the Peace Symbol?

[Celebration]

I am kind of interested in shape geometry and what strengthens us and what weakens us. A really great example is a five pointed star. Looked at the usual way, it strengthens us. But looking at a five pointed star pointed downwards weakens us. But there are just tons of different symbols that do one or the other.

I heard someone interviewed the other day that said that the peace symbol is all wrong. The true symbol for peace is the tree of life, and that the peace symbol should be turned upside down. The way it is now weakens us.

I just tested it with the pendulum and I do believe they are right



What are you all getting? This could be a problem, don't you think? Double yikes. It does do better upside down. Some of the brightly colored ones with the background all different colors seem more okay.

[Angel Wings]

1. Very interesting that you mention this.

When I was a child I always put it the other way around which was upright to me. It seemed like the right way. To this day I still see it that way without thinking and didn't fully realize that I was seeing it wrong until your post...interesting!

[rumpel]

2. I had to look it up...

(my nature) We all walked around with the symbol at the time....Never thought about it's energies...

This forked symbol was adopted as its badge by the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament in Britain, and originally, its use was confined to supporters of that organization. It was later generalised to become an icon of the 1960s anti-war movement, and was also adopted by the counterculture of the time. It was designed and completed February 21, 1958 by Gerald Holtom, a commercial designer and artist in Britain. He had been commissioned by the CND to design a symbol for use at an Easter march to Canterbury Cathedral in protest against the Atomic Weapons Research Establishment at Aldermaston in England.

The symbol itself is a combination of the semaphoric signals for the letters "N" and "D," standing for Nuclear Disarmament. In semaphore the letter "N" is formed by a person holding two flags in an upside-down "V," and the letter "D" is formed by holding one flag pointed straight up and the other pointed straight down. These two signals imposed over each other form the shape of the peace symbol. In the original design the lines widened at the edge of the circle.

A conscientious objector who had worked on a farm in Norfolk during the Second World War, Holtom later wrote to Hugh Brock, editor of Peace News, explaining the genesis of his idea in greater depth: "I was in despair. Deep despair. I drew myself: the representative of an individual in despair, with hands palm outstretched outwards and downwards in the manner of Goya’s peasant before the firing squad. I formalised the drawing into a line and put a circle round it." He also mentioned that he had intended its obvious resemblance to the anarchy symbol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_symbol


on edit: "I was in despair. Deep despair." there is your negative energy

[Delphinus]

3. Wow!

Rumpel, that's fascinating information! I can see the peace symbol as that person, most clearly!

Now that it's been brought up, I do see what the OP is saying. When someone flashes the peace sign, the two fingers are up, in the shape of a "V" for victory. That's different than the peace symbol here.

[Celebration]

4. Image of himself?

Before a firing squad?

What was he thinking?

I had been just guessing that his polarity was reversed or something.

This is just a huge problem IMHO. But I don't know what to do about it.

[stellanoir]

5. Thanks for doing the research rumpel. That's fascinating.

Reversed it would vaguely resemble an encircled Neptune (idealism) symbol. Circles usually are symbolic of "the circle of spirit."

The symbol for Earth is often a cross within a circle.

I'll ponder this some more for a while.

[Metta]

6. The peace symbol represents semaphoric code.

You know, hand held flags. It stands for N.D. N, straight up and down. D, flags at 7 and 5 o'clock. Nuclear disarmament.

[Matariki]

7. upside down that symbol contains the rune for protection & life force (without the circle)

the rune is named elhaz, algiz or eolh. The rune as a pictogram represents a splayed hand or the horns of an elk or a tree. I've read that it was a custom in germany to use the rune upright with the date of birth and upside down (like your graphic above) with the date of death. So there is an association with death when the rune is upside down.

on edit: I'm not insinuating there was a conscious intent to use runes by the designer of the peace symbol. People into runes have sometimes commented that the symbol pointing the way it does is somewhat unfortunate.

[NJCher]

8. mo' better peace symbols

Here are some peace symbols with the "wings" upward:









"...our peace symbol...is upside down, effectively creating a more martial, upraised sword-like image, the very antithesis of peace. This may help to explain why many "peace protests", with protesters carrying placards with the familiar peace symbol, often have a more agitated, militant (rather than truly peaceful) feeling about them."





Cher