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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:04 AM
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Anyone want to take a stab at this dream?
Very strange dream I had last night. I dreamt I was a basketball game with my kids. My son was standing next to me and a boy about his age (10) was next to him and was picking on my son.
In my dream I flew into a rage and shoved this boy up against the wall-violently. That's when I woke up, more than a little disturbed by this dream.

Now IRL, my son is not being picked on (that I know of) and gets along pretty good with all his friends. In the dream the boy I shoved was not a boy that I knew. I don't remember what the "taunts" were, just that he was picking on my son.

I'd appreciate any insight.

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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:51 AM
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1. Bullies are manifestations of over amping and imbalanced Mars.
So is violence in general.

From the bias of being the mother of a 15 year old son, it may be nothing more than the fact that the idiotic bellicosity of our fearful leader is threatening the well being and future of our kids may have provoked you to act out in the unconscious realm. It might be more.

I don't get that your kid is in any more danger than all the kids are if we don't straighten everything out globally ASAP.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:09 PM
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7. I know virtually nothing about astrology...
is the imbalance something that I have influence over?
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:29 PM
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8. of course you have influence over it.
How you indulge your will, volition, and intent is key.

Thank the "creatrix" we all still have free will.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 12:19 PM
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2. My first thought is that the dream is about you and not about your son
an aspect of yourself that your son represents and that you feel the need to protect, either a past issue coming to the surface or something in the present.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 12:24 PM
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3. I also think it's about you, not your son
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 12:38 PM by in search of sanity
I think the bully is a part of yourself that you may be suppressing. I'm not implying that you personally are part bully but that a part of you would like to get out but you suppress it because you think it may hurt your son.
Are you thinking of doing something different that may mean you would be less available to your son?
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:36 PM
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5. There's no changes that I'm contemplating (at least none that come to mind).
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 02:07 PM by youthere
I'll think on that for awhile.

On edit:
I have thought periodically (although more so lately) about finding a different job-although it's more "fantasy" than actual consideration.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:07 PM
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4. I believe it is about you too.
I saw a therapist for over a year several years ago. He was interested in my dreams, and taught me an interpretation method which I still hold. We spent time going over mine, and he eventually convinced me. I've stated this here before. As hard as it is to imagine, each dream character and symbol relates to who we are. Writing them down, even when you have vivid recall, helps clarify the meaning. It happens over and over. So it is good you wrote it here.

What is the essence of your son as you perceive him? It represents something that you consider your offspring and are very protective of. Fill in the blanks. And, yes, as someone mentioned, what voice inside you is bullying the other? I also went on to learn more from Tao, and the many voices in our heads was vividly demonstrated in my dreams. One of my 'inner voices' was throwing bricks and breaking my windows once. We are much more complex than is commonly believed. We keep trying to break things into small understandable parts, but the wholistic approach (holographic) is probably the only way to truly understand. Darn it.

Tell us more.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:03 PM
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6. My son is a very sweet, sensitive boy..
and things tend to affect him deeply, although he doesn't immediately let on. When a topic is discussed in our family, he's likely to not say much during the conversation, but then come to us with a whole lot of questions and observations a week or so later.
While he shuns hugs and kisses and other motherly moshing (except at bedtime) he craves touch. In the evenings he'll sit close enough to his dad or I and touch fingers with us, and likes to lay with his head in my lap and have me rub his back. He likes sitting by his dad and my husband with rub the back of his neck or shoulders.
His biggest concern if he gets in trouble for something is that his dad and I will "hate" him...so we make sure we always draw a very clear line between "the behavior" and "the person".
He's the only kid who plays with a severely handicapped boy at our church. Little kids adore him because he has unbelievable patience with them, and will play with them when no one else will.
He's into his sports, dirtbikes, trucks, and video games like other boys his age, he is especially fond of basketball (he'd rather play than eat-which accounts for him being so skinny) and even though he's REALLY good, I just don't get the sense that he will ever be a typical "jock".
He's also the type of kid who gets along with just about everyone. He loves to talk and can carry on a pretty decent conversation with just about everyone. He often will kick up a conversation with total strangers in places like the doctor or dentists office.
I know that he has confidence issues though. As far as schoolwork goes, he's much harder on himself than we could ever dream of being.He does pretty good at his schoolwork but he won't back off of himself. If you're going over spelling words with him and he messes a couple words up in a row, he will begin to berate himself and call himself "stupid". If he continues to mess up words he will start to get angry, if he's doing really bad he will cry and wail Ï'm so dumb! I'm never going to get this". We have to keep reassuring him he's doing fine, and that he's going to get it and not to be so hard on himself. He sees being a "B" or "C" student the same as failing.
So that's the essence of youtherekid.


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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:09 AM
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14. I think it is simply a Mom's concerns about a sensitive son
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 08:09 AM by DemExpat
coming through in your dream, a very warrior-like protectionist stance to anyone threatening his spirit.

Now, it is also possible that he has sensitivities and insecurities that resonate with some of your own, so this adds to the intensity of feeling in the dream.

Perhaps you even wish that he could be more pro-active, aggressive in his taking up for HIMSELF in his confidence issues,(and not bullying himself with negative self-talk) and you are showing this to him in the dream.

I love dreams for the many ways we can observe the actors and feelings going on within them - on many different levels!

DemEx



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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:33 PM
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9. Another idea: are you worried about your
legacy? Maybe your progeny represents your legacy. Everything okay at work? personal finances? Sometimes I think some of my dreams have to do with projecting my future into a scene like my past.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:37 AM
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13. That could be...
One of the reasons I've considered changing jobs is because I feel like I'm not accomplishing anything, if that makes sense. It pays very well, and I have the perfect schedule and that seems to be the only reason I hang on to it, but I don't feel as though I am "being all I can be" (so to speak).
This might sound silly, but my job makes me feel as though Emeril Lagassi has invited me to dinner, and I've spent a week looking forward to it and when I finally get there, I'm served a bologna sandwich on plain white wonderbread. It's not a bad job, it's just..bologna on wonderbread.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:28 AM
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15. Not such a bad place to be, though, since it meets some
other requirements in your life. Perhaps you could channel your creativity through another outlet or work-at-home while you continue with this job.
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wickfordbard Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 11:05 PM
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10. i would say this is about you - lets look at it differently
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 11:08 PM by wickfordbard
First, you're at a basketball game. Once again, look at the context. It's a competitive sport, but one in which the individual shines. Getting the ball in the basket takes skill - it's very much about getting the Self (represented by the ball) into the basket to score. So - getting yourSelf in the right place. Perhaps the new job?

Your inner son is senstive - and there's a younger you who is trying to bully that part of you - perhaps into staying at a job you don't like?/ And your ego (you in the dream) has had enough and goes into a rage about ...what "having to stay in work that you hate?"

If not work, then what? What is getting you so worked up about that you feel like you're ten again. what happened to you back then?

BARD

On edit: re-reading about your son - he's too hard on himself. Maybe it's the bully in him you're dreaming about - that constantly puts him and his achievements down.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 11:41 PM
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11. I think he is too hard on himself too
What a magical child! At the same time I wonder where this came from.
Is he picking up perfectionism from his family?

Who/What is pushing you?
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:29 AM
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12. I am the exact opposite of a perfectionist..trust me..
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 07:41 AM by youthere
His dad (my husband) is a perfectionist when he is building something or doing homerepair type projects, but that's the only place I see it.

His oldest sister is kind of a typical overacheiver...she's very neat and organized, and she's the type of kid who seems to be good at just about everything she tries. If she isn't good at it, she has the drive to work at it until she is good at it. (There are times I wish I had that drive and focus.) I had an older brother who was very much like my daughter and "Why can't you be more like your brother.." was a frequent theme in my childhood home, so I'd like to think I'm hypersensistive to that with my own children.
His sister does have a lot of priveleges he doesn't get, just by virtue of her age (ie: cell phone, later bedtime, more activities open to her) and we tell him he will eventually get there too.


One of the main worries we have, and we've been open with the kids about this, is paying for college. They understand that they will need loans/scholarships and will probably have to hold jobs to help cover the costs. We've been real clear about that...maybe TOO clear and that is where this comes from.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:43 AM
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16. So .. some part of you
is a perfectionist. Being one doesn't mean we keep everything tidy and succeed at everything.
It can be quite the opposite. Sometimes, some of us, don't even try because it will never be 'perfect', so why bother. Same perfectionism. I know this angle.
My mom thinks I'm an overachiever. I assure you, I really don't think so. She has been amazed! at how I can assimilate information and spit it back out. It's called, memorization. I can remember anything I set my mind to. I just don't set it to EVERYTHING.

Your children sound interesting.
It won't be a problem for them to get their education that way. My son had an AF scholarship but lost it because he showed up a day late for a final. Yes, and he navigates planes. Go figure. He had to get loans after that, and pay them back. But he is reaping the benefits of his education. That was a strong emphasis for us. He liked to spend money so much, I told him, you've got to get a degree so you can make enough money! The most important thing is he loves what he does. Cherish that.

Could the bully in the dream be the "why can't you be more like your brother"? Could you be standing up to that? Did your violence in the dream startle you? Weren't you just protecting something special? Of course you know you don't have to be like your brother. I was kind of given that through the back door. My younger sister was soooo 'good'. She slept all the time. Not me. They had to drug me to get me to stop running. Those impressions run deep. Is your sensitive self feeling attacked? Dreams come from the subconscious. Bubbles we don't neccessarily think about during waking hours. But our intuition, higher guidance system never sleeps. When we shut down, it feeds us images to help us along. Amazing.

Protecting seems good.

Your concern and careful parenting come across loud and clear. Big kudos on raising decent kids :hug:
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:54 AM
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17. Why did this dream disturb you? What parts of it?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:09 AM
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18. Tips to dream interpretation
1. Listen carefully to the dream
2. Ask questions. Dreams are highly symbolic code,
the metaphors are individual to the dreamer
in many cases.
3. Share your interpretations only after you
have understood the metaphorical
meanings for the dreamer.

Also: Try to understand the simple essence of the dream.
And also look for the parts of the dream that don't fit.
Those are important pieces.
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