Someone on GD posted they feel something big is about to happen

[saracat]

soon. Something not good. Others responded saying they felt the same. Does anyone on this board feel that way?

[purduejake]

1. I just started feeling it yesterday...

and have been wondering if something big is going to happen to this administration... I think something is going to be revealed that will surprise all of us.

[saracat]

2. My God, do I hope you are right!

Do you think it would have something to do with Gannongate or Valerie Plume? I thought the poster was inferring a tragedy.

[purduejake]

3. Their guess is as good as mine.

It's pure speculation, but I've been feeling that a damning document or tape is going to be exposed to the public. Perhaps something on the scale of revealing that people in the Bush administration orchestrated the events of 9/11. Again, I don't know, but I feel something BIG. Something that is going to strain the union much more than it already is.

[saracat]

4. I like your scenario better. Hold that thought!

My gut tells me Gannongate is more than it seems. I think the gay prostituton is the tip of the iceberg and I "feel" someone is going to blab, as don't seem to be very smart people.

[Sweet Freedom]

5. same as purduejake...

not that something bad will happen to us, but perhaps to the * administration.

[hvn_nbr_2]

6. Is this the GD thread you mean?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3169044

Or if you mean another one, could you post a link. There's so much traffic there, it's hard to find things sometimes.

[hippiechick]

7. Check out 28erl's Astrology 2005 thread ...

http://www.aquasoul.com/PredictionsFor2005.html

<snip>
(13) As the internet grows exponentially so does Independent Media With Neptune/Aquarius and Jupiter/Libra within orb of a waning trine most of the year - the power of the internet blogs and webzines will began to supplant the Corporate Media. Exposure of the self provessed advocacy groups that stand for "moral outrage" against media indecency as "tiny vocal minorities."
<snip>

<snip>
(15) Iraqi Gate Grows and Movement to impeach Bush will expand with Saturn entering Leo in July.
Bush/Cheney and the new cabinet will be accused of treason due to 9/11 coverups. Also they will be directly implicated in jeopardizing the security of the nation with the war in Iraq.
The N Node in Aries will also oppose the US Chart's 10th house (rules the government, the leadership or ruling class.) by transit thru 2005.
<snip>

[Pallas180]

8. Many years ago

I told my "guides" not to wake me up with a dream, unless it was very
important.

I have not been awakened in YEARS.

Last night I woke up at 5 AM - clearly remembering the dream, which I don't fully now.

In the dream I was in Germany (a country I would not go to)in some formal room and I noticed how they had an entire wall covered with a humongous mirror - (which I thought was interesting, they didn;t have to concern themselves with placing paintings and pictures on the wall).

Then I was looking for my father (my actual father was American and not of German descent) ...and then I was hungry and looking for food... then I woke up.

This is not a good dream.

I take it to mean the wall covered with a mirror was showing us (America) that we are a reflection of Germany.

Looking for the Father - that can mean looking for God, looking for emotional nourishment, looking for security, looking for re-assurance- but the worst of it is that Hitler used to be called the Father of der fatherland. And the dimwit was in Germany yesterday.

Some details are lost, but looking for food. That doesn't sound too good either. Is there going to be a shortage of food in America (as there was in Germany?)

Anyway, I woke up at 5 AM, hungry, and got a spoonful of peanut butter and went back to sleep.

[Behind the Aegis]

14. Lack of food

Perhaps it is a figurative lack of nourishment. The country is force-fed lies and now our "stomachs" are full of nothing but lies/propaganda and it is eating at us. The recent polls showing Shrub's 'loyal' base is become increasingly restless now that they know what we do....he is a liar! His policies will damage our nation!

Now, you know your dreams better, but here is something that struck me. You knew Bush was in Germany, your guides showed you this dream in that location. An entire wall is a mirror, reflecting back the best and WORST in us. There is nothing else on the wall, no distractions, only the TRUTH. Perhaps a devastating revelation about the idiot-in-residence is about to be exposed based on his "feeding" us lies?

Looking for the father could be looking for G-d, or perhaps for a REAL leader as this one is perhaps about to be exposed leaving us without a "father figure" (so to speak...that thought is so repulsive).

What thinks you?

[Pallas180]

15. I think

you are reading more into it with the lies as lack of food.



There's that saying "keep it simple".

[Behind the Aegis]

19. Perhaps

But I know I 'hunger' for the truth! :)

[FreedomAngel82]

75. Makes sense

I can go with that. I'm listening to Rhandi's show from Friday and she was basically talking about how we're lacking leaders and information. It's just entertainment crap. If you sit silently and meditate you can feel the tension in the air waiting to pop. Also Bush still wants to go to war. Earlier this evening and since then I've been having a nervous feeling (again). I don't know what it's about but I remember in the early part of the year figuring out what's going on with this year and saw we'd see more of Kerry and Edwards anywhere from mid to late summer of this year. Anything is possible and things seem to be going opposite for Bush. Especially since the Schavio ordeal.

[Cleita]

24. I had a strange thought today, when I heard on the news

that Canada refused to agree to sign on to Bush's missile defense shield system. The following is the strange thought. What if the moronic White House decides to invade Canada? Yes, common sense would say, unlikely, but what has been done with common sense since his rise to power? The activities of the Nazis and Hitler over the years escalated in insanity as well. What if new Europe allies with Canada? What if our new ally is China, since we have lost all the old ones?

WHAT IF WORLD WAR III IS FOUGHT ON OUR CONTINENT and not overseas as before???? Also, is there a possibility of civil war as well with much of the U. S. joining the Canadians? I know this all sounds so bizarre and if this post had not been put up, I would have put it out of my mind.

[Eloriel]

31. We probably won't have to invade Canada

we're in the process of making some agreements with them whereby we will simply sort of take them over. We already have military sovereignty over them, by virtue of the new North American whatever command, but it goes beyond that. Here:

Border talks called `disturbing' (Canada/US integration)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1238817&mesg_id=1238817

[Cleita]

32. Hi Eloriel. It's a pretty dumb idea I know, but I just

couldn't help thinking about it today. I can't see us getting away with what we are getting away with worldwide for much longer before something bad happens.

[Eloriel]

34. Oh, I didn't think it was a dumb idea at all

I was simply pointing out that we've made some major moves already toward taking over Canada, or so it seemed to me.

[Eloriel]

35. Aaargh -- a little synchronicity

Canada and the U.S.- Vows of Military Integration
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3174266

[Cleita]

37. Okay.

I know a lot of Canadians and I once lived sixty miles from the border and somehow I can't see them accepting a US takeover. So, are they being compromised behind the scenes? We know the Bushlers are very good at this. Isn't this how Hitler annexed Austria through "diplomatic" efforts and then a big stick?

[NEOBuckeye]

40. Hitler called it "Lebensraum"

Translation: "Living Space"

I really don't know what the Bushistas and the Neocons hope to accomplish by a back-door takeover of Canada, other than possibly slamming the door shut on the escape point for all of the teenagers and 20-somethings once they try to reinstate the Draft. But somehow, I don't see the Canadians acquiescing to the same right-wing garbage that has fouled up the US so badly.

These people are asking for trouble, Big Time. Given that most young people will take to the streets before allowing themselves to be FORCED into the military, and the fact that Canada is more blue than Cascadia and New England put together, the Bush regime is truly delusional if they think they can win over public opinion.

[Cleita]

38. And a new post from our Canadians.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3174902

[Tace]

68. The Concept Of A US-China Alliance Is Interesting

Foreign policy is not my strong suit, but I have been seeing it as a clash between US and China. Of course, that's been forecast for 60 years. But, the idea of a US-China alliance, at least early on, makes scary sense.

[NEOBuckeye]

39. Pallas: Peak Oil = Peak Food

Simple enough?

Given that so much of our agriculture depends upon petroleum powered farm equipment and fertilizers, a "food shortage" is a very real possibility, as oil becomes increasingly scarce.

It's hard to imagine such a crisis now, given the fact that you can presently walk into any supermarket or corner drug store and find its' shelves overstocked with food. But that is the benefit of petroleum-based agriculture.

Oil has been the key ingredient in the "Green Revolution" by making large scale production of crops possible with dramatically reduced manual effort, and far fewer crop issues (i.e. insects, vermin, etc.). But that "revolution", though successful in the short term, has come at a great cost -- the degredation of our soil, which will eventually lead to crop failures and the inability to produce much of anything, period. Indeed, agriculture over the long term will not be sustainable if we continue to use petroleum-based methods of agriculture, whether or not availability of oil becomes an issue (and it WILL become an issue).

The overabundance of food is also responsible, at least in part, for our population boom during this past century. Can you guess what happens when the prime method of generating all of that food fails?

Anyone ever hear of overshoot? Actually, you probably don't want to.

Ever see those signs posted near doors in public places that tell you the maximum capacity for rooms and auditoriums? The Earth has one too. It says: "MAXIMUM CAPACITY: 2 BILLION"

Funny how no one ever noticed. Were damn near 6.5 billion people now on this planet, and still counting. No wonder it's so stuffy in here.

Sorry if I sound a bit on the doom and gloom side of things. I think that's my natal Moon in Capricorn talking here. But lest we despair too much, there is still some hope: A return to true Organic farming and agricultural methods. True Organic agriculture can replentish and revitalize the health of our soil. Some say that it can even produce crops as good or even better than what petroleum-based agriculture produces now, and without the side-effects that damage our environment. It does mean a serious return to manual labor, but then, we very likely aren't going to have much of a choice.

At least some people are talking about organic farming now, even if they are on the fringes. Better later than never.

[Eloriel]

47. More manual labor?

Not at all sure about that. I thought there were significant hints to the contrary in the very link you provided:

Can Organic Farming "Feed the World"?
by Christos Vasilikiotis, Ph.D.
(good info on several studies re productivity, etc.)
http://www.energybulletin.net/1469.html


I garden organically, and love it. I've always been in favor of it, even tho I myself was never a gardener until I moved out to the country. And even now I'm not MUCH of a gardener -- not a lot of experience and no innate talent. I have studied it, have quite a few books, and know sometimes more than my own RESULTS might indicate (alas).

It's the only sane way of doing things, period. End of discussion. There simply IS no other way sane of growing food, whether you're doing it for yourself and family, or commercially on either a small scale or large scale. Nothing else makes any sense whatsoever.

The way I think of it is this: Nature KNOWS how to grow things. No matter where on this planet you live, you can look outside your window and see SOME thing growing, and in most areas of the world (even deserts), said growth is pretty damned abundant. So if Mother Nature knows how to grow things, and abundantly, who are we to try to outwit and outsmart her? Why not do it her way -- give her the raw materials and other "assistance" needed for growing those things WE want but that she might not grow natively in our locale.

That assistance comes in the form of adding/acquiring the plants or seeds WE want (as opposed to what Nature provides in our georgraphic area), compost piles, natural fertilizers perhaps, mulches where they can do the most good, etc. It's soooooo simple. In reality, you can have a pretty successful garden (esp. over time, once your soil has been built up a couple of year) with NOTHING more than compost + mulch (and sufficient water, of course). And if you're willing to be a vigilant weeder, you could conceivably do without the mulch. (I'm a lazy gardener and prefer NOT to (have to) do any traditional weeding, so I love my mulch._

Think of it -- those don't require any money either. Mulches and compost are free (or can be with a little planning and effort). Think of the money saved on fertilizers, herbicides, and pesticides. Will the garden/farm be disease and pest-free? NO! But then, disease and pest-free isn't Nature's way either. Nature has a balance between predators, and uses disease to take out the weakest specimens of plants (survival of the fittest). Healthy soil (i.e., full of a wide array of nutrients AND an abundance of micro and certain macro-organisms which add to the soil's health and may also interact with plants) creates plants that are healthy and have high natural immunity to both pests and disease.

Um, sorry for what may appear to be a rant.

We have a Gardening Forum, btw, with emphasis on organic.

[Cleita]

48. How about getting food to market the old fashioned way

with draft horses and oxen? They also leave behind a nice fertilizer. It doesn't get anymore organic than that. Also, can't railcars be run on steam? We may have to adapt.

[purduejake]

53. Railcars can run on electricity...

You'd have to have some heat source to make steam, so electric is the next source. Unfortunately, it looks like it is going to be run by nuclear plants, especially if the criminal in chief gets his ways.

[FreedomAngel82]

76. When you mentioned the food shortage

What popped into my mind was when the "Homeland Security" guy left (his name left me now) said he was surprised nobody had tried to get our food supply and how it was easy. That really made me very nervous especially since everything with Iraq and we're still in Afghanstain and we're the most hated country in the world. :scared: I also noticed when out last night that gas here in my area in Tennessee is now $2.11 when two/three weeks ago it was $2.03 so that has gone up.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

77. On Tuesday night, I dreamed that Nazis were coming to get me

and that they were going to inject me with sodium pentathol before letting hungry dogs loose to feast on my flesh.

Interesting similarities between our dreams...

[Dover]

9. Yes.......some dreams and that 'feeling' again.

I never know whether it suggests personal events or collective...but these dreams seem to indicate something beyond my personal sphere. I'm certainly feeling something......and it may even occur locally (if my dreams are any indication) here in Texas.

It also came up in a 'personal' I-Ching reading and sounded collective to me.

I was reading for a personal Tarot question and a man's death came up in the reading...and I knew it had nothing to do with the question I was asking. So I threw some more cards and that time it answered my question. The following day I found out my neighbor (a man) died at about the time I was reading those cards. So it was a quick message and preparation for that shock.

Now the I-Ching/Tarot readings are predicting a series of shocks in the near future, and it advised me on how to deal with them....(staying calm and cool and temporarily withdrawn from action until I get my bearings).

I should add that the more personal shocks I've endured...while often sad and difficult...ultimately have had a very positive and constructive effect on my life. So I'm not cowaring in the corner.

[Pallas180]

10. Oh Dover! I didn't know you were in Texas....

eeeewwwww,so sorry.

No I don;t think it has anything to do with Texas.

I think it's probably prophetic of what America is now and that we will be hungry and foraging for food - asking God " Why have you forsaken us".

Quite a dream huh?

[Dover]

13. Yes quite a dream........or is it a nightmare?

My little oasis in Texas is actually very nice (shhh...don't tell anyone. We're not all that pleased with our popularity). But you don't have to venture far to be in Bush country.

[Nancy Waterman]

11. I would say something big will happen in late March or early April

when Uranus begins its first phase of action on Bush. Check out my latest article where I mention quite a bit about this upcoming transit. I just started the thread on it.

[Pallas180]

16. Don;t forget his natal Uranus is conjunct the North Node & trine Jupiter-

Pluto opposite his Uranus and conjunct his South Node should have brought him down already - but didn't.

Perhaps it will take a while to sink in.

Uranus is the planet that is known to have a kick (in the pants) as much as 3 degrees after passing the sensitive degree - but I have not heard of that with Pluto.

With Pluto you don't (maybe America won't) fully realize what has happened until much after it has passed - maybe even out of its current sign or house.

And then I wonder if it won't be too late.

[Behind the Aegis]

12. Maybe something is in the works

I feel there is something going on under the surface and it is about to bubble over. I haven't slept well in weeks. But, this morning, I woke up after a dream I can't recall and couldn't go back to sleep. I have had a series of strange dreams. I haven't written them down (perhaps I am trying to avoid it). The one thing I do know...for the past few days, I have seen a number of posts on DU that I have "read" before. I was thinking I had popped on the thread before, until I realized the thread was new and started after I had signed off. I guess I should start cataloging them!

On edit: I think what ever it is will be very, very bad for the mis-administration!

[Sweet Freedom]

45. My mother told me yesterday

that she dreamed she was in a hospital and that she knew a bomb was about to explode (she said she could "see" it even though it was outside). When the bomb went off it was a massive explosion. There was destruction, but no one was hurt. Instead everyone was shocked and saddened by what had happened.

Her dream made me think of the 2005 prediction cited above that truths about 9/11 would be exposed. (Then again, I don't interpret dreams, so I could be totally wrong!)

[Trailrider1951]

17. Yeah, me too, something is coming allright

I, too, am one who rarely remembers my dreams, but three days ago I had one that can only be described as a VIVID NIGHTMARE! In the dream, I was at work, and was talking with my co-workers. Everyone was very afraid, because our country was being threatened again and again by North Korea with nuclear attack. Everyone at work could do no work, as we stood around and listened to the special reports on the radio. It felt very much like the time of the Cuban Missle Crisis, if you are old enough to remember that. Then, suddenly, in the dream my perception changed radically, in that, instead of seeing everything normally, everything suddenly glowed yellow-white hot, and in an instant I realized that Houston (where I live) had been hit with a nuclear bomb, and I and my friends had been instantly vaporized. But we were still there and conscious, yet dead, no longer alive. The feeling changed from overwelming fear to overwelming sadness and sorrow. All we could do was to hug each other and express our appologies to each other for what had just happend. We all lined up at the door to go home, and it was pouring rain, as if the earth itself was weeping in sorrow. Then I woke up. Dear God, what sorrow!! :cry:

[Pallas180]

18. WOW Trailrider. That's really bad. Have you ever

had any dreams that were prophetic?

In other words have any dreams you've had come true?

[Trailrider1951]

20. Yes, the last one right before my father died

I dreamed that I was at his house in Florida. We all were in the back yard by the pool. Dad got onto the diving board, dove into the water and never surfaced. No one panicked or called 911, it was like his death was expected. We all expressed our sorrow to each other, and went in the house, which was prepared for the wake. End of dream. About a week later, I learned my father had had a stroke, and was in the hospital on life support. After several days, the doctors told us that there was no hope for his recovery, and my step-mother made the decision to remove him from the machines, and he died shortly thereafter. I believe that the purpose of the dream was to prepare me for his death. We were very close when I was young.

[Dover]

21. That's interesting.......

Can't remember who it was, but someone posted a dream recently about a nuclear explosion in Houston that involved his brother (if I remember it correctly). And my dream involved an explosion in Austin. Not sure what to make of them, but it's disturbing to say the least.

[Trailrider1951]

22. Please, God, NOT AUSTIN!

My daughter and her husband live in Cedar Park, with my two precious grandbabies!:cry:

[Cleita]

25. Eh, I think the ranch in Crawford might be a better target.

Apparently, the Arab terrorists are starting to zero in on their real target, the Bush gang. At first it was all Americans, but it seems they are coming to the conclusion that it's only certain Americans who are the great Satan and Bush is one of them.

[Sweet Freedom]

46. Wow.

Read my post above yours about my mother's dream. I read your post after I wrote that message. Same sort of description of sadness and sorrow. (We're in Houston as well.)

[Name removed]

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[Pallas180]

26. Mandate My Ass - if

I had a dream like that I would go to the doctor just to make sure everything was okay.

[Mandate My Ass]

27. You ain't just whistlin' Dixie

I keep wondering what I was watching, reading, thinking, imagining before I went to bed but so far, :shrug:

[Gin]

28. It could be the pope dies.....now that won't matter to me..but it does

to a lot of people.

[NEOBuckeye]

42. I was thinking of that too, Gin

About 1/5 of the world is Catholic, so there will be a lot of emotion expressed and mourning among a billion people. That could lead to a pretty significant chain reaction of sorts. Socially, if not in other ways.

I really don't think the current Pope has very much longer to live. His health is deteriorating at a rapidly increasing rate now.

[Quakerfriend]

29. I have not had any dreams of note lately but,

I have felt a particular urgency to get things done. As if we will run out of time soon. I feel that I must not be thrown off course.
I also feel that I need to 'prepare' in some way for big changes in the near future...but, don't know best what to do with finances etc.

I have purchased seeds ahead of time this year for the garden.

It's funny, because several yrs ago I asked my psychic about the earth changes and she told me "You will be canning a lot more". I thought it sort of odd because although I enjoyed canning when I was a teenager in the 70's, I can only imagine going back to it in times of great hardship. Yikes!

And, I also have a very strong adversion to the daily news.

This is not like me at all.:scared:

[PinkTiger]

30. I haven't had the canning urge

But I've had the same feelings of dread.
I have also felt the need to get "right" with people in my life, and take care of the important things.

I think we are in for some big, big changes.

I had a dream the other night that I feel was very prophetic for me personally, but I also think may have been a clue that things are getting ready to change drastically for us in this part of the country. I live in SW Missouri. But canning is a good idea.

I'll get right on it.

[Eloriel]

33. I had the urge last Fall to get my garden ready for planting this spring

after several years of inactivity, and I'm hoping to do some canning this summer as well. Just seems like the thing to do. I really have more I need to do, that is, ready more area for more garden -- but I'll have to do it as I can. :shrug:

[Pallas180]

36. My mother did a lot of canning, and it lasted for decades :) but

although I bought her the jars - I really don;t know how to do it -

sounds like I better get a book on it...I have an area where I could plant vegetables, but I've filled it with roses...hmmm - my roses may have to go.

[NJCher]

41. canning

This is one of my favorite images. I have the postcard right here in my collection.

I just love canning. It's not hard! You do need certain equipment, though: jars, lids, and a big pot in which to boil your canned goods.

I remember my mother doing all kinds of canning when I was a kid. The house would be full of the aroma from canning pickles and tomatoes and green beans. In the winter, I recall being told to go downstairs to "get a can of tomatoes" or whatever was needed to prepare the meal.

My mother is such a creative canner, too. She would can things like jalopenos and tomato preserves. Chokecherries. Watermelon pickles. Cinnamon apple rings. Plums, you name it, she canned it!

Needless to say, I love to can things from my garden. This year I canned about a dozen jars of pickle relish and bread and butter pickles. It just makes me so happy to do this.

Anyway, I would absolutely love it if we returned to the days of home gardens and canning. In fact, it's almost 2 a.m. and I think I will go get my Ball Book of Canning and read it in bed. I will dream about all the vegetables I'll grow this season in my 11 raised beds (see, I'm already set up for the apocolypse!).

My personal opinion, though, is that the looking for food is similar to what Behind the Aegis says about it being symbolic for our lack of nourishment re truth from our media. None of this would be happening if the truth were exposed. I don't happen to have a very high opinion of Americans but I do not think most people here would stand for it if they knew what was going on.


Cher

p.s. excellent post on organic gardening, NeoBuckeye.

[NEOBuckeye]

43. Thanks Cher. And careful what you wish for...

I think you are likely to get it soon. But much sooner than what most of us will really be prepared to handle. I, for one, could really use about 10 more years to prepare, but at the rate we are going now, we'll be very lucky if we get just one.

But you and others here are only doing what you do best, and sensing what others on the fringes are talking. And it's all very serious and very real.

I still maintain that everything Bush, Cheney and the NeoCons are doing now is all about the Oil. Saudi Arabian peak production has either already passed, or else, they are extremely close to it. And given our dependency upon them for so much of our Oil, that would explain Iraq, and now, the drumbeat to invade Iran.

Better leadership, upon learning about peak oil production would have started us on a crash program to downscale our society to something more sustainable and pump money into reviving our railways, canalways and other forms of mass transport, along with development of alternative energy sources, so we can at least keep some semblance of a post-modern infrastructure going. Bush and Cheney's solution? Conquer the world for the rest of the oil.

These people just can't seem to let go, evolve and ascend. One way or another, no matter what Dick Cheney, Poppy Bush or Exxon says or wants, Oil is going to run out. And it seems that they would prefer to carry civilization to the brink of nuclear war and ruin, rather than to choose the path of least resistance. Somehow, they must be stopped. Humanity and Planet Earth's survival depends upon their ultimate defeat, and the total discrediting of the NeoConservatism/NeoLiberalism methodology.

[Pallas180]

50. NeoBuckEye - I met a person who is financier for oil drilling - so

I mentioned peak oil and asked why he wasn't financing gas stations which would pump corn oil...

his answer was there was not enough (corn)

bulloney I think. We have so much we're trying to dump it eveywhere and put it in evey food.

[Quakerfriend]

44. NJCher, love your posts!

Speaking of canning and synchronisity.................

Back in 1989 I worked in a hospital and we had a fellow who stayed on the unit for several months. I instantly became fond of his wife.
Her life story was really neat. She had been a nun for 17 yrs when she met her husband (A high powered trial lawyer), and gave up being a nun to marry him. Anyway, she and I became fast friends, talking daily.

On the day that she was to take her husband home she stopped by my office and gave me a gift- "Preserving" the Time Life Book. I remember feeling, at the time, that this gift carried a message for me. I believe that it was telling me to get back to gardening.

You see, when I was 14-16 I was OBSESSED with organic gardening. I would grow broccoli, cauliflower, and lettuce indoors in February. Each spring, I would hall horse manure in black trash bags from a farm nearby, and spread it all over before planting. I grew poll beans, strawberries, sunflowers, squash, potatoes, tomatoes, asparagus, lettuce, broc and cauliflower, all sorts of peppers and cucs etc!! I even grew wonderful cantaloupe mellons one year (in PA). Folks would stop by to take pictures of my incredible garden!!

By the time I was in my 20's I had gotten away from my love of gardening. So, I believe that that was the message her gift was sending.:9

[Elidor]

49. Curious

I've been getting warning dreams, too. Mostly along the lines of "something big is going to happen." I have no idea what or to whom, or whether it's good or bad. But I've had a feeling lately that it will be bad.

[cliss]

51. If astrology is anything to go by,

something is definitely going to happen this spring. I'm an astrology junkie, so I read a lot of astrology prediction web sites. And because I'm a statistician at heart, I don't necessarily believe it if one says something is going to happen.

If the majority of them seem to be in sync and they all say pretty much the same thing, then they have my attention. I have been noticing a lot of them are predicting something big, something disastrous this spring. I follow mostly Vedic web sites, and they're being vague about what exactly what is going to happen.

However, you don't need to be an astrologer to see that we are sitting at the edge of the abyss, looking down. The things we're doing are absolutely impossible to sustain, even for the short-term.

The shit is hitting the fan on every blade: the economy, our currency, the war in Iraq, our current deficit, Venezuela and Hugo Chavez, North Korea, China looming on the horizon, dramatic global warming, terrorism, a shortage of oil in Saudi Arabia, I could go on and on but you get the picture.

And for those of us who are a little more in-tuned spiritually, we all know how sick and perverted this insane dance is getting.

It's interesting that P. Yogananda predicted we would be hit with a currency crash. It's interesting because of all the scenarios I could have thought of, that would be the last one I would consider. He wrote a little booklet which was entitled "World Crisis".

We'll see.

[sojourner]

52. he say when the crisis would hit?

Astrology sites I frequent are predicting things a bit more "explosive" ----- (not an astrologer but learning that when Mars is involved in particular ways it can lead to literal explosions or explosive situations).

Peace

[cliss]

66. Sorry to take so long, Sojourner.

I don't always Sojourn here; I'm usually swimming at the deep end of the pool (in LBN).

Re: your question; no Paramahansa Yogananda did not give any indication when the currency crash would happen. The pamphlet is vague about most of the important details, like; when, where, how and will we make it through.

The booklet has a printing date of 1942. Hard to tell.

[NEOBuckeye]

54. Bird FLU menace brewing...

An invasion of Iran initiated by a chest-thumping Bush, and the upcoming Oil/Energy Crisis could turn out to be the least of our worries. A deadly flu pandemic that could wipe out millions might be lying just around the corner.

Now this one sounds scary. Could it be the Uranus event?

--

"I HAD A little bird, and its name was Enza,
I opened the window, and in-flew-Enza."

Eighty-seven years ago, children jumped rope to this ghastly little rhyme while Spanish flu killed twice as many people as did World War I.

More than 850 New Yorkers died in just one day in October 1918. Only the undertakers were smiling as hearses clogged the cobblestone streets of Manhattan and Brooklyn.

Now an even deadlier version of that "little bird" is threatening the world.

This week the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned that an avian - or bird - flu that has already killed more than 40 people in Asia could mutate into a viral menace capable of killing millions more.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/284998p-244021c.html

--

Apparently, these flu pandemics show up about every 30 to 40 years, but never any more than 40 years apart. And scientists say that we are well overdue for another one.

What's so scary about this virus? Two things: One, the fact that it jumps from one species to another with relative ease. Birds, domestic cats, tigers, pigs and now humans have been infected. Two, it mutates very, very easily, which is fueling fears that an extremely virulent, rapidy transmissable form will inevitably emerge and spread amongst humans. The virus is known to inflict a 70-75% mortality rate upon its' victims. And it doesn't discriminate by age. Otherwise healthy adults in their 20s and 30s have contracted the virus and perished from infection complications within days, if not hours.

Solutions? The EU and other nations are apparently already working on them, though they are much more along the lines of containment. Finding a vaccine could take up to 2 months, by which time there may already be 700,000 dead, and even then the vaccine will be in very limited supply. Less certain are the US' plans, which are likely being downplayed by the Chimp in Chief's Administration. Bush has apparently cut funding that would have gone towards preparation for just such a crisis event (surprise, surprise).

Given that a vaccine probably won't come through in time, some are suggesting natural remedies...
http://www.plague.info/002316.html

[DemExpat]

55. I must admit that this is what frightens me the most as a possibility

of something big happening.

:scared:

DemEx

[Pallas180]

57. Relax. Flu would have Neptune involved. Not Uranus. n/t

.

[Pallas180]

56. No, it's not a surprise. The intention for 50 years has been

for a major portion of Americans to die. Part of the New World Order
plan.

If the elderly get the flu and there's no vaccine or they can't afford it, then there's a lot of social security that doesn't have to be paid.

Thinking no one would think such horrible thoughts?

That's what actuaries do don't they.

There's a famous quote by Kissinger made 15 years ago or so....
without reference to flu, but with reference to the New World Order.

goes something like: " Yes, it's too bad, millions will die."

I'll see if I can find it again.

[TankLV]

58. No. I am just very tired.

Maybe it's because I'm recovering from a small heart attack a few weeks ago - don't feel much about ANYTHING lately except seeking out enjoyment and the love of loved ones and my dogs.

Nothing seems to surprise me anymore - no matter how bad the news is.

It's as if I have truly come to accept that things are unfolding as they should. I have chosen to go with the flow of the flood indundating us all - I have a much better chance of surviving the deluge instead of usning all of my energy trying to go against the flow. All I can do is try to stear towards the shore and let the flood run its course and pass me by.


Concentrating on regaining strength - which I am every day. It's amazing how much better I've felt as each week progresses compared to the last week.

I am even endeavoring to remove all my bumper stickers. Even the repukes as work can't believe I want to it!

I concentrate on seeking out the "light" instead of battles - but I no longer silently accept additional burdens or impositions on me or my time.

Even managed to go a day or two without DU in addition to the couple weeks in the hospital!

[DemExpat]

59. Hugs and strength to you, TankLV....

Sometimes our physical bodies cannot take the continuing strain of feeling so against what we see all around us.....

Please take care or yourself and your loved ones first - without giving up all care about what's going on. Just put it in a more peaceful place so that it doesn't harm your heart.

Be like the Buddha - observe it all without getting unbalanced from what you see.....
difficult exercise!

:hug: :hug: :hug:

DemEx

[TankLV]

60. Thanks.

Peace.

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. that gut wrenchign feeling in my gut has not stopped for

over a month

[Quakerfriend]

62. Me too, Nadinbrzezinski!

BTW, glad to nice to see you over this way lately!:hi:

I'm a bit of a newbie but, I have to say that I've always enjoyed your insights on things.:D

I like your intuition, and you seem to be spot on politically!

[nadinbrzezinski]

63. Thanks launchng a bussiness so

my time is truly limited, tend to concentrate on GD and LBN for that reason these days.

shameless plug

www.deistgames.com

And yes I am using as my fountain of inspiratioon them original deists, you know the Founding Fathers... maybe the fluff will be a nice wake up call for the kids?

[Quakerfriend]

64. Very NICE!

This looks like a refreshing change from the ordinary... I loved to play. Keep me posted!

[nadinbrzezinski]

65. Will, the game is now in beta

so I may be able to keep my promise to release it by december

[Quakerfriend]

67. gotta question for ya

Why the age 18 or over criterion?

[nadinbrzezinski]

70. age 18 or over?

did somebody hack into the site?

Realistically as a game designer and knownig a litle about child developpment an RPG is NOT adecaute for most 10 year olds, and 12 year olds can handle it if they are mature enough....

Will have to go check on site

[Ilsa]

69. I've been more thoughtful of and anxious for

buying some land and stocking up on stuff. It's been worse for about a week now. Maybe I'm afraid of a terrorist attack, a MIHOP to distract us from Bush*'s blunders. I don't like it when he's visiting Crawford, either. I'd rather he stay in DC.

[Pallas180]

71. The dreamers seem to have picked up on the refinery explosion -

kudos - and far in advance too...

If you meditate, learn to meditate, you may pick up more, consciously
as well as in dreams.

[nadinbrzezinski]

72. Loons off the deep end

or has the schiavo case been the fort sumter or the sowing of winds that will lead to a whirlwind?

First we have randall terry, "if terri dies there will be consequences."

Now for your viewing pleasure, the idiot of the week.... (or at least should be up there)

(and crossposting from MY blog, but the www.halturnershow.com is a live site... until the FBI gets this one to the antiterrorism desk)
More proof of the winds that have been sown
by plubius on March 25, 2005 11:10AM (PST)

http://www.halturnershow.com/

I advocate the use of force to rescue Terri Schiavo from being starved to death.I further advocate the killing of anyone who interferes with such rescue. -- Hal Turner

This radio host is even advocating terrorism, and threatening police officers. This folks is very much against the law, and has been against the law well before the US Patriot Act (which I am sure Mister Turner advocates for OTHERS). Read bellow...

CONGRATULATIONS, AMERICA.


THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE SUNK TO:

PINELLAS PARK PRICKS ARREST KID FOR "TRESPASSING;" WAS TRYING TO GIVE A GLASS OF WATER TO TERRI SCHIAVO

These guys deserve to have the shit kicked out of them, and that Hospice ought to be blown up by a truck bomb.

-----------------------

Now in case anybody reading this is wondering... this is incitement of a riot or screaming fire in a crowded theater. Now here is the question, will the Feds do a thing? I doubt it. After all he should be given a warning, at the very least. I don't expect him to face any kind of music.

Now there is something that people should realize, if you actually do read the Bible, for this is what has been done over the course of the week. Oh and it has been cold and calculating, but I wonder if they realize they have lost control of the situation...


"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind." - Bible: Hosea (8:7

This is what is at stake and they have indeed sown winds, and they are getting strong across the land. We shall reap the whirlwind and go down a very dark path. This is just the beginning, but for those who love our democracy this is the time to stand tall against the Extremists among us, especially those with access to a microphone. So Mister Turner, if you read this, realize screaming fire in a crowded theater can have consequences. If it does, your hands will have that blood.

Plubius

Oh and the link to the blog...

http://plubius.myblogsite.com/blog


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[Digit]

73. Interesting post in GD today...a MUST read...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3410708&mesg_id=3411088&page=

<snip>
So one night I was laying in bed with a girl a recently started seeing and I thought it would interesting to try to progress her into a future life. After giving her instructions and suggestions she immediately found herself as a 19 year old male (she is 38 now) living in New York. She wasn’t sure about the year so I asked her if the WTC was there. She said the WTC had been destroyed many years ago and there was now an impressive memorial there now. Then I asked if there was anything else destroyed by terrorists. She then said something like "a lot of New York was destroyed, you already know that". She went on to tell me that terrorists hit quite a few major cities all at the same time, she called them 'the simultaneous attacks'. She said millions of people were killed and about 25% of the population moved to different countries afterwards. The attacks were done by our own nuclear plants, chemical attacks and bombings. She also did mention Bush was killed in one of the chemical attacks. The cities she mentioned that were attacked were Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Denver, New York, and Washington DC.
<snip>
:nuke:
:scared:

[smirkymonkey]

74. I found that post fascinating too...

I live in NYC and have had a feeling lately (as have many of my friends) that something is really off in this city. The energy has really shifted within the last few months, and a lot of us have considered giving up on trying to make a go here.

Suddenly, it doesn't seem like it's worth it anymore but it feels more ominous than just that. It's like the city itself is saying "GET OUT." :scared:

[pacifictiger]

78. this is an interesting post on another thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3433101