The US capture of Guantanamo in the Spanish American War Chart

[Pallas180]

what is interesting, is that Neptune conjunct the MC from the house of foreign lands seems to say there were a lot of lies at the time about what was going on down there (Teddy Roosevelt). And I bet there was a lot of objection at the time to our foreign imperialism, which is what it was.

What is interesting right now, is that transiting Pluto is opposing that chart's natal Neptune in the 9th house...and the outcry for the closing of Gitmo/Guantanamo is loud.

And dimbot - how does he listen to the elected representatives of the people and the people? He awards a 500 million dollar contract to Halliburton to upgrade the Gitmo prison, a contract which is to last through 2010

Does he think we will allow him to remain in office as dictator?
He must be awfully sure of those fixed voting machines.

[FreedomAngel82]

1. Maybe not as dictator

but he will appoint, so to speak, someone to take over for him and they'll continue through a rightwinger or they'll take a break from on the national front and let a democrat be president like with Clinton and then continue after regrouping and gathering up money and support to finish their plans in 2012 and possibly a Jeb Bush run either as the main canidate or a VP since Poppy said recently he thought Jeb would be a fine president (gag me). By then a lot of people will have forgotten about his bad governor record and the whole Terri Schavio mess. I think this is why McCain is whoring for Bush. He wants to finish where Bush left off along with some other people who are fighting McCain for it. I can sense that Bush isn't very fond of McCain and that's why McCain whored around for Bush last November and still is but also is still appealing as a moderate and did the "compromise" with the democrats on the filibuster so people will vote for him and they won't have to try voting fraud.

[Pallas180]

2. McCain is not a moderate - he is just as republican conservative

as any of them, anti Roe v Wade and the whole thing. The only thing he isn't as far as we know , is evangelical neo-con - yet.

Biden also wants the run - and sometimes he seems reasonabe..but he also sucks up to the neo cons at other times, just as Hillary is.

They're all one big party.

Unless there is a total revolt, those fixed voting machines will be in place and there will never be another real election....until they go. It will always be a fixed election.

The only state dumping the fixed machines is California

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