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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 03:13 PM
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I just don't know what to say about the conjunction of Jupiter/Neptune/Chiron
I covered this story in my latest newsletter. I saw it coming 1.5 years ago. Jupiter, Neptune, and Chiron will all be within 1/4 of a degree on May 25. This has never happened before and has enormous implications. I've read some astrologers who had a negative bent on this; my bent has been very positive. I think it will largely be "an optimistic spiritual turning point to the collective mind" planetarily. This is because it is happening in the universal sign at 26 Aquarius.

Now, we don't know what to go on, and we have to speculate. I'm sure it will have its negative consequences too. Hard to tell what and I don't want to spread fear around.

But

many people are calling me
sensitive people are feeling it
many are stating it like "new emotional urges are rising up from within"

I don't know what to say other than DON'T SMOTHER IT. Let it up and out. If you get real emotional, do it.
DON'T over analyze these next two weeks either. Feel it. It will last all summer too, but the closest the triad (stellium) will be is on May 25.

I'd love to hear from all of you as to what you are experiencing.
Yes, this is on the heels of Pluto in Capricorn.
Yes, this is on the heels of Saturn opposite Uranus.
Yet, this is big all by itself.

At their basis, all planets are GOOD energies.
Look for massively new inspiration now. Don't poo poo it, it's as real as can be.
Your feelings? Intuitions?

:hi: :think:

p.s. As was stated earlier.
1. this will have great implications in the house in your chart containing 26 Aquarius
2. this will have special significance if you have planets from aroung 20 Aquarius into the early degrees of Pisces.
and 20 Leo into early Virgo.
and 20 Scorpio into early Sag.
and 20 Taurus into early Gemini.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:12 PM
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1. Care to guess what it means for me?
My natal mars is at 25 degrees 44 Aquarius; my sun is 5 Gemini and Mercury is 4 Gemini; my Pluto is 26 Leo (same for a lot of people born in the mid to late 1950s). Also, my birthday is May 26, almost exactly the same day as the conjunction.

As for what I'm feeling, I've received some insights into my life and emotions over the past couple of weeks. However, I've been very blue the last couple of days.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:22 PM
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2. Thanks for the info
Since your Natal Mars in Aquarius is opposite Pluto in Leo, this is one big deal for you.
It will have strong sexual and emotional/intimacy issues at the heart.
When we put your Gemini Sun on the ascendant, your Mars emanates from the 9th house (Solar). This means that you are going
through a huge turning point as far as your philosophy of intimacy. Typical Geminis are game for anything, but now, you're going to start getting pickier.

"Blue" is just the adjustment to the heavier Pluto energy, one that Gemini does not excel in. Make sure you go over your past and learn from any experiences where Men (Mars) overshadowed you in any way (Pluto). This stellium of planet signals to me that you are getting over a long period of inequality with the opposite sex; you're finally gaining a healthy balance with those issues.

I hope so, for you.

Pluto is never to be underestimated in a natal chart especially when it closely opposes a personal (independent) Mars in Aquarius.
Awareness is the key now and Healing! (Chiron) :applause:
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:34 PM
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5. Thanks for the info
I think I might have a slight twist on what you said and wonder whether you think this is result of this upcoming stellar event.
I don't think I experienced a long period of inequality with the opposite sex. However, I think I'm getting over the masculine idea of success; success in this culture has been measured in terms of accomplishments, achievements, money. I thought I resisted the paradigm but looking back I realize I bought into it hook, line and sinker. The collapse of the economy made me realize the extent to which I had bought into it.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:27 PM
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3. It sounds potentially positive.
I have Moon, Jupiter, Neptune conjunct in the 8th and I rather like it. In fact it's going to be trined by the Chiron, Jupiter, Neptune transit.

I'd like to order up one really good, profound, mystical experience please...
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:32 PM
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4. Then, that most likely ...
means that your Moon, Jupiter, and Neptune are probably in Libra.
Moon/Neptune probably means you have great psychic gifts!
Go for it
did you want a cherry on top?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:52 PM
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6. Moon at 27 Libra - Jupiter & Neptune in the first degrees of Scorpio
I just absolutely live for mystical experiences and I always want a cherry on top ;-)
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 05:17 PM
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7. Would you settle
for a donut? That's all we have... :donut:
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 07:04 PM
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20. How about...
Edited on Thu May-14-09 07:04 PM by Matariki
:beer:

Beer!

I enjoy your posts Rick. I'm glad you're on DU. And is that a photo of you at the beach on your website? Did you make the sand zodiac? Because it's awesome.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 07:11 PM
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21. Thanks Mat
yes, my son and I made it on the S. coast of Maine
funny thing, NO ONE saw it but him, me and my wife at the time.
The waves washed it away.

Then, months later, my wife presented me with a big picture of it! I didn't remember her photographing it.
Now, it's all over the planet.

I like it here on DU!

:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 05:20 PM
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8. 26 degrees Aquarius is my 6th house
I have Pluto at 24 degrees Leo
also moon in Leo, but a little too early to special
Mercury at 29 degrees scorpio
nothing in taurus or early gemini
nothing in aquarius or pisces
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:48 PM
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14. It's a generational thing
many of us born in early 50s have PL in Late Leo
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 05:44 AM
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48. which leads to the question
will it have a generation impact? i.e. affect one generation differently than another?
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:04 AM
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51. Yes
it will lean towards enlightenment of the 50's generation
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 05:29 PM
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9. Hi Rick, I'm curious to know how this might affect me, too
My husband's still out of work. As a result, it's difficult for me to get moving on the stuff I should be -- my ambition and motivation seems to be swallowed up by the stress.

I was born July 28, 1960 at 2:25 in the afternoon in Seattle, WA. The Astrodientst text looks like this:

Planetary positions
planet sign degree motion
Sun Leo 5°48'20 in house 9 direct
Moon Libra 4°09'55 in house 10 direct
Mercury Cancer 20°01'44 in house 8 direct
Venus Leo 15°48'43 in house 9 direct
Mars Taurus 27°09'16 in house 7 direct
Jupiter Sagittarius 24°34'14 in house 2 retrograde
Saturn Capricorn 13°35'31 in house 2 retrograde
Uranus Leo 20°24'19 in house 9 direct
Neptune Scorpio 6°23'44 in house 12 direct
Pluto Virgo 4°51'26 in house 9 direct
True Node Virgo 16°03'22 in house 10 direct

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Scorpio 21°47'33
2nd House Sagittarius 22°28'29
3rd House Aquarius 0°26'26
Imum Coeli Pisces 8°53'28
5th House Aries 9°52'00
6th House Taurus 3°16'10
Descendant Taurus 21°47'33
8th House Gemini 22°28'29
9th House Leo 0°26'26
Medium Coeli Virgo 8°53'28
11th House Libra 9°52'00
12th House Scorpio 3°16'10

If you say it's positive, then I will believe that it will be. ;-)

Thank you so much in advance for any advice you might have.

MV
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:52 PM
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15. Along your Mars/Uranus square
remember, MOST of this transit is going to affect the higher mind of all of us, collectively.
So, it's harder to pin down to each individual chart.
I feel it's going to have to do with you really QUESTIONING whether or not you're going to keep GIVING of yourself so much.
You are generous but I feel you may appease too much due to the Moon in Libra. Now, it's more of a give myself to the Universe (God) and let other people know that they can't take you for granted anymore.

Fits?
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:30 AM
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38. Rick, yeah, I think this fits
I know someone who's been bleeding me dry, so to speak. It's time to slowly back away. ;-) This has been coming for a long, long time. And, yeah, I do appease. ;-)

I know little about astrology, but I'll bet there's something in your chart, too, about being generous and offering great advice!

Thank you so much. :hug:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 05:58 PM
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10. Sun 26 Aqu conj Jupiter 24 Aqu in 3rd H as part of Grand Air Tine w/Uranus & Saturn
The Grand Trine also forms a Kite if one considers the North Node, which is opposite Saturn & Conjunct Galactic Center {!!!}, aspect worthy. This astrological newbie is leaning towards accepting North Node the Kite because it is cool ;)

Also Sun conj Jupiter forms t-cross or t-squares to Ascendant opposite Mars.

So someone correct me if I am wrong it seems to me I have Jupiter/Neptune/Chiron all activating or impulsing my natal sun conjunct Jupiter with their own energies which then feeds into the aspect patterns. I have all this energy coming so I have to decide, if possible, how to direct it. The phrases that come to mind is "Focus Power" and from Indiana Jones III "Choose, but choose wisely".
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:55 PM
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16. The main thing is the Sun
right on the stellium. Look for it to give you GREAT insight into your higher being.
ANd I'm not saying that lightly. It will take you all summer to get up to speed on just how special you are.
I think.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 09:35 PM
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25. I feel adrift just now, without knowing which way to go, foggy
Have made major progress in things I never thought could be helped while other things are near the worst they have been :shrug: So I try to just keep on keeping on and hope it will come to me as I go.

Thank you for your insights. I will be sure to think deeply on this and the conjunction in general.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:47 AM
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33. Good luck Shal
I think that's what's happening with me too. Look for big-time guidance the next two weeks.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:10 PM
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41. 2 weeks, definately I can hang on for that
I hate feeling even more clueless than usual right now with personal and collective STUFF erupting just now {{{whine wallow whine}}}

Individuation seems to be my personal theme right now and some primal gunk has been rising up. Chiron's help I expect w/Neptune's dreamy lassitude clarified by Jupiter's jovial potency burning off the illusions that hide how much work is left to be done. Right now that is manifesting as the strong urge to get organized, something of a shock to this procrastining contented to be a bit of a mess around the house person. When it comes to cleanliness regarding sanitation and anything germy I am considered the family paranoid* but other stuff like leaving freshly purchased canned goods in the bag on the cupboard for a few days doesn't bother me.

(* I have relatives who's idea of washing hands after handing things like raw meat means touching two finger tips to the bar of soap and then rubbing their hands under a stream of water for 15 seconds {{{{shudder}}}})
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:09 AM
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52. Don't look for Jupiter
to "burn off any illusions"
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:13 PM
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11. It's almost exactly opposite my Uranus and ...
just a few degrees away from my Chiron.

These sure are interesting times.

:)

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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:58 PM
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17. Remember
most of us have Uranus opp. Chiron from 1952 to 1987 or so.
in your chart...

being close to your Chiron in the 4th
it's going to give you the inspiration (Jupiter) to heal (Chiron) yourself. And, as your Chiron return is forming, this is huge.
You're going to be given (manna from Neptune) freedom from old emotional blockages and renewal.
You're already a blessed soul anyway...
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 08:54 PM
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24. thank you for your kind words to our dear Dream.
You know she's prone to worry. This looks like a real blessing. Here's to your generosity of nature and spirit, Ric.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:48 AM
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34. O tanx daddyo
she deserves it all
the worry will decrease, I feel
time to party y'all
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:32 AM
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39. We're with you.
I'll send you a p.m.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:46 PM
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44. No, I'm just a cautious Capricorn, dear Metta.
:*

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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:11 AM
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53. Cautious smauthios
Capricorns are one thing (I'm a double, my dad was one, my ex was one) MAKE SURE

it's that simply
she's not worrying METTA SCHMETTA

she's MAKING SURE :wow:
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 01:22 AM
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26. That's my friend you're talking about
and she (you IHAD) are truly a blessed person and being in her (your) light makes me happy.
:grouphug:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:43 PM
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43. Awww...
what a sweet post, WhiteTara. I say the same in reference to you, my friend.

:pals:

(Thank you!)

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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:52 PM
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45. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us, Rick.
Yes, I'm not too concerned about it since no personal planets are involved and, therefore, a lot of other people are going to be affected in the same way.

:hug:


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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:13 AM
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54. THIS HAS VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH INDIVIDUAL CHARTS
It's WHAT OBAMA IS TRYING TO DO! SEE?

Spread the beauty, reasonableness, and caring to ALL PEOPLE - it's spiritual!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:20 PM
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12. I have not been the only one where I live who is feeling this
My landlord and boss is too--and we have both gotten the hit that we should just let it be whatever it will be--not trying to influence or mold it, but let it flow.

I usually have no trouble sleeping, but lately have been waking up at night. I live in a basement apartment. The bedroom has no windows, and should be completely dark at night with the door shut. Of course that has not been the case for a couple of months now. The Light is not as bright as it was in February, when golden light shone from my heart chakra, but it is more powerful and yet more diffuse. My feelings about this is to relax and enjoy the ride--great things will be happening, and all we have to do is observe.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:30 PM
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13. I've been waking up a lot also.
I have no problem falling asleep; I just can't sleep straight through.

:(

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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 07:02 PM
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19. Yes, me too
I think it's the new excitement of all the new consciousness. I also believe that we're all building new connections to other spirits as we "sleep" at an unheard of rate.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:46 AM
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Very much my case
and my landlord is having the same thing happen. Though with her it is more common to have sleep problems, she says lately its been te energy. It will be interesting when things start manifesting on this plane--I hope we all come here to share them.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:49 AM
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35. It's the enLIGHTenment that's keeping us awake
nothing more, I think.
be well
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 07:01 PM
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18. I wish all, including me, were as wise as you.
Yes, relax, let it ride. Let it BLOOM. In your chart, it's right on your descendant.
This will present you with a new ROLE to play to others. I light to others. It will also make you really appreciate the close relationships you have; seeing them as really holy.

Yo go girl.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:42 AM
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31. If I am wise, it is a reflection of your own wisdom
I appreciate all your posts and your insights on astrology.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:50 AM
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36. No, I'm pretty dumb actually
I think u b pretty wise lady.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:41 PM
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42. Ummm...
no -- I don't think so, my friend.   :eyes:

You wouldn't be my teacher if that were the case! (And you have the patience of a saint -- at least with me.)

:bounce:

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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:14 AM
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55. One doesn't need patience for you
One just can't HIDE, one has to be bare.

which is ok if you can stand it hee hee
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 07:43 PM
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22. I'm feeling that the Universe will deliver good things, too. This after a
very gloomy depressed phase the last few months. I'm talking VERY DEPRESSED. Work situation is almost intolerable, w/crazy decisions due to make it worse in the future. Suppose I should feel luck that I still have a job since so many don't now......but.

Of late I have gained an internal hope that is really springing from within. I go by "knowings" & this just seems to feel like something is coming into my life that will improve it on the career front. I MUST TRUST THE UNIVERSE!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:41 AM
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30. trust trust trust
That's the key. I know in my life, I've waited sometimes for years for things to happen--and then they do, all at once! Last time was 20 years ago this month, when I found my spiritual path and my soul mate all at the same time. Hadn't thought about it, but there was an energy buildup then, too. But I sensed it was strictly personal. This buildup I feel is more general, for the whole planet.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 06:08 AM
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28. I barely sleep at all now
for several nights running, until I crash and have a big sleep with intense dreaming.

Excitement building, I guess, around the coming changes. I think, though, it could be a wild ride. I'm going to try to think of it as white water rafting. Just hang on and let go!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:38 AM
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29. Yep
that's the feeling, all right. Woke up twice last night with a huge peaceful light over my torso--the energy vibrations gentle and yet intense. Didn't go to bed until late but work up a little early, feeling refreshed.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 08:08 PM
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23. Well, this seems to verify what many of us are going through & may
be exactly what you are referring to. Another quirky symbiotic relationship, this was posted right after this post in ASAH!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x92019

I love Karen Bishop, she seems to target my situation exactly in each of her newsletters.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:09 AM
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27. Hi astroman. I have a fixed grand cross.

Wondering what's happening to me...personal info in a PM.

Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0
Sun Aries 5.29 Ascendant Virgo 5.45
Moon Taurus 13.18 II Libra 1.59
Mercury Pisces 12.31 III Scorpio 1.58
Venus Aquarius25.48 IV Sagittarius 4.07
Mars Taurus 19.46 V Capricorn 6.15
Jupiter Cancer 20.03 VI Aquarius 6.59
Saturn Scorpio 20.37 R VII Pisces 5.45
Uranus Cancer 23.36 R VIII Aries 1.59
Neptune Libra 27.27 R IX Taurus 1.58
Pluto Leo 24.39 R Midheaven Gemini 4.07
Lilith Sagittarius 1.44 XI Cancer 6.15
Asc node Capricorn 0.47 XII Leo 6.59


Thanx!!
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:51 AM
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37. The Triple Conjunction falls almost exactly on my Ninth House Cusp
At 26 Aquarius 44, the Astrologer's Degree. I've been asked to do two readings within the past week - a first for me.

DOB: 4/27/1978 - Akron, Ohio

ASC 15 cn 11'
Sun 6 ta 58'40"
Moon 6 cp 50'25"
Mercury 15 ar 4'44"
Venus 0 ge 20'58"
Mars 6 le 31'47"
Jupiter 2 cn 27'36"
Saturn 23 le 39'21"
Uranus 14 sc 42'39" Rx
Neptune 17 sa 56'56" Rx
Pluto 14 li 43'19" Rx
Ceres 22 cp 42'32"
Eris 14 ar 18' 7"
Makemake 20 le 50'54" Rx
Gal. Center 26 sa 33' 9"
mean Node 4 li 22'46" Rx
true Node 5 li 30' 0" Rx
Chiron 5 ta 26'34"

It seems my Saturn at 23 Leo in my Second House, and Venus at 0 Gemini in my Eleventh House, are the only major planets I have that are influenced by the triple conjunction.

I have been experiencing a growing sense of greater awareness and of all things being connected, for the greater good. I have been gradually picking up on this energy for about the past year or so, but it seems particularly powerful now. Most recently, I have experienced the healing of a great sense of insecurity in my marriage. However, now the source of that insecurity, a particularly powerful soul connection I experienced ten years ago, is turning up in lucid dreams... two I had just last night. I'm not even going to try and speculate about it and what it may or may not mean. But I do find it interesting that these things are happening now.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:24 AM
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56. Your moon is very strong in Capricorn
and has PLuto heading right for it. THAT's the story.
A "sense of insecurity in my marriage" is PROBABLY PL heading to your sun wanting you to want more!
You need to deepen the marriage and IT HAS TO BE REAL, or uh oh.
If you work towards deepening it, it'll get great, but neither one of you can fake this one.
A Taurus Sun, with Cancer rising and Capr moon makes you VERY HESITANT to change. YOU must be willing to change, don't hang on to the pseudo-comfort of home. It must become real, not just a haven. It must be a RELATEtionship. Pluto demands that from within.
You're no stranger to PL as it squares your ascendant, so you should do ok.

I advise you to make sure of what you are saying to people if you're just starting to read. Just now am I OKing it to my students who've been with me 54 weeks. WHY? Because people take you as if it's written in stone and take anything that "hints" of being negative as being a lifelong curse.

This stellium landing right on the cusp of your 9th is a MAJOR symbol of new, encourage, soul-searching and philosophical growth.
TIme for a long distance trip too. Hard for you to get away with your sun/moon/asc
good luck
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 12:08 PM
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40. I don't know what planet I've got in what house, what's rising, etc...
:crazy:

But I have been pretty impatient lately. I have been pretty laid back for quite some time, letting things go along, but now I feel compelled to take charge. Right now it's manifesting as moving full-speed ahead on finally finding someone to get our lawn in shape (it looks like a WWI battlefield) as well as hiring a contractor to finish a bunch of remodeling projects that we started a few years ago but never had time to finish. (Basically I'm sick of living "in transition"!) Does that sound like something that could be influenced by this conjunction?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:27 AM
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46. good dawg!
This is OT but I just NOTICED that Mercury, Jupiter and Uranus are all in Cancer in my 12th house!
(Mercury and Uranus at almost the exact same degree.)
:silly: No wonder I'm a crazy woman! Or at least perceived as much. Right?
sheesh

On Topic: Leo in Pluto 1st House (I can't give up on the house system). Also sun and rising.
I think our generation is going to play a big part. That's just my gut, nothing to do with astrology, other than reference to the roll we've always played, that of 'trouble maker'. We were fairly despised at times for our passion to challenge the status quo. Maybe birth pains?

Nothing for me that matches that set for Scorpio or Taurus.
Astro gives me these:
Transits
Uranus trine Uranus End of March 2009 until end of February 2010
Uranus opposition Venus Beginning of April 2009 until beginning of March 2010
Jupiter trine Neptune End of April 2009 until end of December 2009
Uranus square Mars End of April 2009 until end of December 2010
Jupiter opposition Pluto End of April 2009 until end of December 2009
Jupiter sextile Mars Beginning of May 2009 until beginning of January 2010

I've noticed that I'm no longer satisfied to qualify myself so much. When I write now, I go back and erase "I think", or other qualifiers as to my state of mind. I had read awhile ago that women do this more than men, not surprising. In fact, this is somehow related to feminine energy. Not sure how.

I'm also gaining real interest in an improvement for my eating 'plan'. I've left the meal planning up to roommate most of the time. He eats an awful lot of meat, especially pork, and I just don't need that much meat in my diet. I haven't craved a steak in a very long time. I've already started on a small, but disciplined course of nutrients. I hate taking pills and tend to slack off after a week. Trying to listen to my body more. It wants some good food. Maybe just listening to myself more all around.

This from another site does mention some energies that might affect me. The dates are close to yours.
(Though I haven't been 'sick'.) *** I think she must mean Saturn turns direct ***

Written by Monika, on 05-15-2009

The reason these health issues came up for you at this time was most probably due to the Venus Retrograde in Aries that we all just recently went through. Last time Venus retrograded in Aries was in March 2001. Therefore we’ve completed a very important 8-year cycle with this particular Venus Retrograde.

The soft gentle Venus energy gets aggravated and somewhat burnt-out in Aries, which is a fire sign. Venus entered Aries on 2 Feb - Turned retro on March 6 - Turned direct April 18, and comes completely out of its “shadow” by 21 May.

The whole point of any planet going Retrograde is to bring up the issues of its domain and the sign/ house it retrogrades. It brings these issues to the surface, essentially getting your attention in a way that, hopefully, will prompt you to want to explore more deeply, before charting the course of future forward movement; when direct and out of shadow when you will have acquired more clarity.

Saturn has also been retro, for the past five months, in Virgo (health sign) and turns retro on 16 May.

We’ve now recently entered a Pluto retrograde from 4th April. Pluto retrogrades are all about death, rebirth and transformation. This is best time for shadow work, leading to transformational growth. This was also the best time for your articles “The Great Awakening” series.

We’re also in Mercury retrograde now from 7 May till 30 May.

Jupiter will soon turn retrograde too.
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=474&Itemid=70
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 05:36 AM
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47. I don't know how to read this;
I don't know if this will get to you. If it does, can you explain anything?

Does the fact that the sun is in Aquarius and the Moon in Scorpio have anything to do with an 'affinity' for Scorpios??? LOTS of them in my life. But thats a relatively minor matter.

http://rep.astrology.com/free/18644/1061/Gif1.html


I enjoy reading your work here, even tho I understand NOTHING!!!

Thank you, Rick.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:30 AM
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57. Yes, it certainly does
along with Mars and Mercury in the 8th house (Scorpio's house)
NOTICE HOW YOU HAVE THE JUPITER NEPTUNE CHIRON IN YOUR although wide, and not exact.
So does Neil Young and Van Morrison
It was in Libra then, the last time, but before CHIRON WAS "DISCOVERED"
This will really light you up

but first

you have to deal with transiting Pluto approach your 4 degree Saturn in Capricorn in the first house. or else, it won't matter.
Translation: astrology is not about doing ANYTHING, it's about ALLOWING life to come to you
That's what PL is trying to whisper to your Saturn.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 05:00 PM
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61. Thanks Rick for helping my 'attitude!'
:hug:
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 06:18 AM
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49. Um, Rick? Could I bother you for me and Shawn's placements?
If you have time, o'course.
I'll see if I can rustle up my own from the directions here...
Thanks.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:33 AM
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58. It's nearing your Midheaven
that means you are JUST ABOUT READY to launch yourself in a new career direction.
THis will bring you the FAITH that you can do so (jupiter)

Sean is having it early in his 7th house, this should give him ENCOURAGEMENT to love more.
TO open up more.
I believe this will be very healing for him!
That's good news
good luck
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:48 AM
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60. Thank you!
That's very encouraging. Thanks for taking the time...
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 10:16 AM
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50. When Neptune is involved...
Caroline Casey always says: "Don't let reality stand in the way of your dreams". This is the perfect situation for her quote.

This conjunction is opposite my Jupiter Pluto conjunction, trine my Neptune and also my Venus, and square my Saturn. You think it will effect me? ;-)

Bill
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:37 AM
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59. Hi Chem
I need to see your whole chart if you care to PM me.
I don't like to speak while seeing just a snippet.

Nevertheless, I certainly think it will have a major impact on you. Knowing all the astrology you know will be a huge aid.
And from what I've seen - you know a lot.

The trine to VEnus is wonderful, just wonderful for relationships of all kinds.
The opp. to Jup/Pl will cause you to really start to look to "His will" and away from your own. You'll sense more and more that you are in fact a part of a much bigger picture.

Your natal Saturn hasn't got a chance against this kind of power. Be flexible and responsible, that's how you handle Saturn

yet, I really need to see you whole chart.

Good luck
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 07:48 PM
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62. All I have to say is this about that . . .
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:11 PM
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66. Stella stellium
Cheryl and I liked very much what you have written. Again, so elegant.

Call us when you want to chat about Chiron, we think we're making advances
and retrogradation which I'm pretty dense about.

good stuff stellamatic

hi to the BEAU!
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:10 PM
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63. Hi, My North Node is at 24deg. Aquarius, and aquarius is in my 5th house.
Is that significant?

Thanks very much :hi:
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 10:21 PM
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64. ...as well as Venus, Neptune, Jupiter in 20 Scorpio-1 Sag.
... to sum up (this is from my natal chart)

Aquarius in 5th house
N. Node at 24 Aquarius

Venus at 23 Scorpio
Jupiter 27 Scorpio
Neptune 01 Sagittarius

So I guess this is a big deal for me. Yikes! Thanks in advance for any insight/warning...




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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:15 PM
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68. No "Yikes" are necessary
enjoy enjoy
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:14 PM
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67. Of course, it's extremely important
without having see your whole chart, it's along the NODAL AXIS. This is a HUGE karminc turning point for you.
You should receive the blessing and CONFIDENCE to go for the North Node which is to find yourself, express yourself and UNCOUPLE YOUR SIDE CAR.

That means, stop waiting for others to join you along your path.
Just go for it.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 02:57 PM
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70. Thanks very much.
I think I will enjoy this. :)
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 12:32 AM
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65. Rick, can you tell me what it might mean for me?
Lately, I have been taking care of things that have fallen through the cracks or ignored for far too long. It feels like a NEED or I am driven to do these things. It feels great to see what I have accomplished....and my yard looks beautiful.

I am at the lowest weight I have been in 13 years and now am checking out the fellas. ;)
This came from out of nowhere and I am surprised at myself and somewhat embarrassed to admit it.

It almost feels like I am working on the outside "stuff" so I can get to the inside.

Unfortunately, I still have moments when I feel terrified of the future and worry about finding a job.
I am still back at school for now, but wish I had some stability. The panic attacks are probably a result of the instability I feel.

I dunno Rick, how might it affect me if you don't mind my asking. Are the things I am experiencing part of this?

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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:20 PM
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69. Well, in general
"It feels like a NEED or I am driven to do these things." this is fore sure
YOur yard is symbolic of you fixing up YOU
lower weight, check out the guys, a great sign

there is no "outside" stuff if you know what I mean.

terrified,work, worries, we all have that.

THe stellium that is affecting us now and maxes on 5/25 is IN YOUR 7TH HOUSE OF RELATIONSHIPS
that's WHY you're "back on the market"! weee
yes, go for it, it's time to meet new people with the new you
be bold like Leos do and tell your Moon in Capr. to relax

good luck
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 04:45 PM
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71. I do declare
I have a sudden case of the vapors...must be Capricorn.

weeeeeeeee?
You are too funny, Rick!
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 12:39 PM
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72. interesting....
my friend and I were discussing this on our walk yesterday...

trying to figure out what it all means for me as I know so little re:astrology.

I recently finished grad school, am seeking work, no nibbles yet.
Aiming to stay focused on "things always work for good in my life" attitude...
doing quite well thus far. Feels like I so want to find my purpose for being...
and am constantly asking for guidance from All That Is...wanting something concrete...
so far...still feels nebulous.
Overall feeling is that something very positive is happening in U, and I want to find
my unique way to help with that positivity.

Here's my profile.....any hints?


born on 29 June 1948 local time 1:20 am
in San Francisco, CA (US) U.T. 08:20
122w25, 37n47 sid. time 18:39:38

Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion
Sun Cancer 7°28'30 end of house 3 direct
Moon Aries 4°12'35 in house 12 direct
Mercury Gemini 29°43'54 in house 3 retrograde
Venus Gemini 29°59'28 in house 3 retrograde
Mars Virgo 19°58'08 in house 6 direct
Jupiter Sagittarius 22°18'38 in house 9 retrograde
Saturn Leo 20°02'15 in house 5 direct
Uranus Gemini 27°00'29 in house 3 direct
Neptune Libra 10°13'46 in house 6 direct
Pluto Leo 13°27'32 in house 5 direct
True Node Taurus 12°25'19 in house 1 retrograde
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Aries 16°07'13
2nd House Taurus 22°14'46
3rd House Gemini 17°21'28
Imum Coeli Cancer 9°06'11
5th House Leo 2°16'43
6th House Virgo 2°20'32
Descendant Libra 16°07'13
8th House Scorpio 22°14'46
9th House Sagittarius 17°21'28
Medium Coeli Capricorn 9°06'11
11th House Aquarius 2°16'43
12th House Pisces 2°20'32

Major aspectsSun Square Moon 3°16
Sun Conjunction Mercury 7°45
Sun Conjunction Venus 7°29
Sun Square Neptune 2°45
Moon Square Mercury 4°29
Moon Square Venus 4°13
Moon Square Uranus 7°12
Moon Opposition Neptune 6°01
Mercury Conjunction Venus 0°16
Mercury Conjunction Uranus 2°43
Venus Conjunction Uranus 2°59
Mars Square Jupiter 2°21
Jupiter Trine Saturn 2°16
Jupiter Opposition Uranus 4°42
Saturn Trine Ascendant 3°55
Neptune Sextile Pluto 3°14
Neptune Opposition Ascendant 5°53
Pluto Trine Ascendant 2°40
Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle).

Thanks!

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 02:54 PM
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73. Great.. Thanks for the
heads up! And, thanks for your positive bent.. It really does help.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 04:21 PM
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74. well it happens in my 11th house so my experience as
the aspect builds has been positive. with all the Aquarius in the 11th, it's natural house i think i will be connecting with more groups that are spirit/like minded.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:00 PM
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75. Moreover
I find the 11th to be LAUNCHING OF YOUR BIG-TIME DREAMS! Really. Good luck.
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skye66 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:13 PM
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76. I'm not emotional so much as introspective
Edited on Wed May-20-09 08:29 PM by skye66
My Neptune is in Scorpio in the eighth conjunct the north node, closely trine Chiron (which is conjunct Sun/Saturn/Asc and opposed Uran/Pluto) in Pisces, inconjunct Jupiter in Gemini at the IC. It's hard to sort out the Nept/Jup/Chiron influence because there's so much going on. But I think it partly has to do with stimulating our wounds around our ideals of justice, in order to heal them, on both a personal and macro level (as above/so below).

I'm interested in the way it's playing out in the country and world. Our ideals and self-concept as a country, and sense of community (Aquarius) have been incredibly damaged, and we are hopefully beginning to address that. It's incredibly painful (wounding) as a country to be forced to look at ourselves in a new light as more and more info comes out about the injustices perpetrated by our leaders. It will be difficult to prevent the desire for revenge from resulting in violence and judgment in a destructive sense. On a constructive note, there is more of a sense of common ground and cohesiveness among the populace (the masses/Aquarius; we're all in this together), regardless of politics.

Maybe the triple conjunction is reminding us of how we've been judged (or judgmental) on a personal level in the past in order to prevent us from becoming too self-righteousness. It's a very karmic time, and Obama is walking a very fine line. A lot more will come out at the next two Sat/Uranus oppositions. For now, the triple conjunction is helping me stay hopeful and idealistic despite the upheaval and transition.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:17 PM
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77. Welcome to the group, skye66!
:hi:

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:45 PM
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78. wow interesting times for all indeed it seems
For me it has been an endurance test of survival in daily life and keep working, regardless of my deteriorating state for my family's well being, towards realizing what I have been working for for the past 9 years.

Within the many ups & downs in the past months was a final crash course, perhaps, of relationships near and far, and the realization of inter-connectedness, insights of not taking anything personally and accept the bad of others as part of my own, it is the path to true forgiveness. At the same time an incredible feeling of joy and relief to see and feel the inter-connectedness, synchronicity and witnessing it in the communities and on the global scale with people I only hear or read about.

Being able to shed the inherited and cultural subconscious imprint of acting with priority given to what others would think of me, also seems to have been a major theme. This way of being certainly is the source of insecurity, as no one knows what others think of you. But many of us were taught to conform to the demands of our society, which in the past several decades has gone into the extreme realm of materialism, (I tried and could not keep up with, and feeling bad) which does not define me.

I also notice, exactly Why Syzygy states: I've noticed that I'm no longer satisfied to qualify myself so much. When I write now, I go back and erase "I think"

Now, back in February this got me into trouble. My daughter always tells me that I have a terrible way of expressing myself. I am unfortunately a perfectionist. As I testified in court against the scammers who ultimately led us into us loosing our house, I would not give a definite yes or no answer to anything I do not have exact and certain recollection or documents in front, especially on something which happened over 5 years ago. (We have been locked out of our house since last summer, and we still have no access to our belongings - so no docs)
So, there you go - the "I think", "maybe", "pretty sure" - kind of statements - while true for yourself, do not ring true or wishy washy to others.
I have operated from a point of view that others always know better than me - I am still learning. It was high time for me to grow up - perhaps. Still working on it, too. Come to think of it, in my teens I was very assertive - when did I lose it?

I am homeless and yet have this incredible support on all levels, and am able to somehow continue on. I am sitting in the middle of two extremes and through all this I am able to detach and work over the hurdles of not having the basic comforts, such as an address, phone etc.

Throughout these past months I have been feeling the collective positive energy rise and the fact that I have a roof and internet access at the moment, is manifestation of this, too. I have concentrated to get myself in the position to give, and yet I have been in the position to receive. I have been feeling that on the personal level, finally the shift in the circumstances is here for some time now. Those, who were not true, are leaving my surroundings, and yet universe seems to say - "no, not this one", or "this one", "here is another one, try again"...so I am holding my breath.

FYI This is my natal

Sun Aries 24°01'36 in house 8 direct
Moon Libra 20°35'00 in house 2 direct
Mercury Taurus 13°32'19 in house 9 direct
Venus Aries 23°56'39 in house 8 direct
Mars Gemini 17°11'34 in house 10 direct
Jupiter Virgo 23°37'05 in house 1 retrograde
Saturn Sagittarius 13°56'23 in house 4 retrograde
Uranus Leo 2°52'13 in house 11 stationary (D)
Neptune Scorpio 1°26'13 in house 2 retrograde
Pluto Leo 28°04'49 in house 12 retrograde
True Node Scorpio 19°46'21 in house 3 retrograde

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Virgo 14°59'34
2nd House Libra 10°44'27
3rd House Scorpio 10°37'50
Imum Coeli Sagittarius 13°19'14
5th House Capricorn 16°17'35
6th House Aquarius 17°13'14
Descendant Pisces 14°59'34
8th House Aries 10°44'27
9th House Taurus 10°37'50
Medium Coeli Gemini 13°19'14
11th House Cancer 16°17'35
12th House Leo 17°13'14
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 05:37 PM
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79. I'm digging it
Manifestations occurring everyday.
Even my daily I Ching castings are pretty damned good this week.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 02:17 AM
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80. It is on Obama's S Node and square his 10th/4th
and per the Sibley Chart conjunct the United State's 27 Aquarius Moon. (I never thought of his South Node being conjunct US Moon) Not sure how much we can count the Moon or angles in the US chart due to no certain time but mundane astrologers swear Sibley chart holds up well.

Actually he might not notice that aspect much...noticed he has Pluto making minor or major aspects within 1 degree to his Moon, Mercury and Venus. Wow.

Neptune/Jupiter/Chiron energies can be almost anything and I expect we'll see a lot of variation and we usually see best in retrospect.
Neptune can be anything from delusion and deception to spiritual opening...Jupiter can expand whatever it is touching for better or worse or it can bring a wisdom, a joy. Chiron can be wounding or healing and so on. Anything from delightful "magic" to painful losses...and that is without considering the house, points or planets it is touching.
We could use some healing magic.


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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 09:47 AM
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81. And Obama's chart
represents all of us now. It's a huge awakening (tomorrow) of a broader consciousness. Obama might "think" he's leading the way, but it has little to do with "him". It's divinely inspired.

I think

wahoo
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 01:29 PM
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82. The preface,
at least at DU, seems to be over the top snark. What a nasty place this is sometimes.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:41 AM
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83. Now it's me!
I don't have anything in Aquarius. It is my Descendant though.

Something changed Friday. I suddenly found myself in a foul mood. It's getting worse. I hope THIS isn't what I'm supposed to feel all summer :( It is icky, and I may have to avoid DU for awhile. And life.
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