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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 06:53 PM
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Reading Cheney from a photo
Here's a photo of Cheney apparently taken at a ball game. I've never seen him look so old, scared, and lonely. Quite a candid moment.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5679414

How would you read Cheney in this photo?

(Sorry about not posting the photo but I don't know how.)
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 07:11 PM
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1. Looks like it's all over for him
put a fork in him
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 07:31 PM
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2. I see a very hard shell
surrounding a person who is very unhappy and possibly fearful
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 09:24 PM
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3. I just can't look at him and NOT look for parts of a crab.
Seriously. I have NO idea why this is, but every time I look at that man I expect to see crab claws in place of his hands.

He's a very sick man.



Laura
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 09:56 PM
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4. He lacks his imperviousness of former years, but he's not "done." Down but not out. He's
still got some nasty tricks up his sleeve, I'd bet. He looks ill because he's been stewing in his own evil for a long time.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 10:13 PM
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5. Everyone is having fun but him. Have to wonder why he bothered to go. nt
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 07:08 AM
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6. He almost has to be ill
He has more chakras blocked than about anyone I have ever tested.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:50 AM
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7. This is an excellent way to practice intuitive skills.....
examine a picture and see what you get.
PC members often do this.

For empaths, see if you can get the emotion of the subject in the picture and then why he or she is feeling that way.

You can try narrowing the feeling down to one of four feelings (sad, mad, glad, scared), or combination of them. Then elaborate in more detail on the feeling(s). Then see if you can get the why behind the feeling.

Keep going with this practice, you can do it.
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skye66 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 05:58 PM
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9. What I get:
He's feeling betrayed because his minions are deserting him (too many to silence). Wondering whether it was all worth it, given that he doesn't have that much time left. Feeling his age. Angry and depressed, with shock, sadness, and a bit of wistfulness underneath (how could this have happened?). Some degree of fear that he will be called to account (though he would never show or admit it).

He is starting to flail around in public because he feels the loss of control, of things slipping out of his grasp. But his anger and extreme resentment still keep him focused at times. He feels cornered, and is still plotting. A very dangerous man, even in a weakened state.

Lashing out in private. Full of self-pity and indignation. Thought he was master of the universe, and now everything he built is crumbling.
Feeling the passage of time, and the loss of respect and entitlement. Embarassed by the loss of face (for him, his wife and his daughter).
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:45 AM
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8. I'm getting paranoia, defensiveness--and walls
Big brick walls, built up all around his psyche. He firmly believes he is right and everyone who disagrees with him is wrong. Cheney has had the opportunity to create his own reality for most of his life, and now he can't tell the difference between what's his creation and what the rest of us are preferring to experience. That's why he keeps yapping about torture instead of going away quietly to let Obama run things. He still believes he is Emperor for Life.

IMO, you get this a lot with people who have been in charge of something--been a successful entrepreneur or what have you--when their world changes and their reality collapses, they are unable to accept it. They've been running their world for so long and have such massive egos that it never occurs to them that things might NOT go their way at any time. (My uncle owned his own business, and when he went bankrupt, he kept operating as thought it never happened. Denial is very powerful.) And of course Cheney has the power and money to keep minions around, so I'm sure they're still plotting their next government coup.
:scared:

Now, I'm not saying Cheney is capable of keeping those walls up, however. Every once in a while, perhaps late at night, he'll have this niggling feeling that maybe, just maybe, he lost the game. But then he'll push it out of his mind, take some meds to get some sleep, and in the morning he can hold those doubts at bay long enough to prop up his version of reality again and gather his minions for a plotting meeting.

Sad, really.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:15 PM
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10. Very good comments....... this picture is complex....
a complexity of emotions, thoughts, etc...
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:54 PM
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11. I'm not at all psychic,
so I can't read the photo that way, but notice how he is looking in a different direction from the others around him. He's a man who is isolated and unhappy.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:28 PM
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27. Everyone can participate in this kind of project, psychic or not.
Edited on Thu May-21-09 06:34 PM by Psychic Consortium
When doing a photo reading like this, right and left brain skills are both quite useful. Rational and intuitive. The line is often blurry between the two when doing a reading.

You made a very good observation on the eye direction.
Often this kind of comment can help a psychic focus on a certain area to see what they get....
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:05 PM
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29. I just always throw in the
bit about my not being psychic when I participate in discussions like this because whatever I'm offering does not come from a psychic perspective, and I don't want to leave the impression I'm making claims of psychic abilities.

I do always hope whatever I offer is useful.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:07 PM
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12. What I got when I looked at that photo was
a sense of seething anger behind a wall of grey depression. I also feel like it's bleeding out onto others around him.
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HOLOS Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:22 PM
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13. Also he is buttoned up in his blue Iraq flak jacket - outer projecting inner-
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:43 AM
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18. Good catch
I remember reading, a while back, when he was wearing that ugly parka at Auschwitz, that because of his bum ticker he's always deathly cold, so a buttoned-up jacket in May wouldn't be a surprise, but I don't see anything wrong with it being valid for both his physical and his mental state. :hi:
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:32 PM
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14. They've hung him out to dry and he knows it
That's the first thought that entered my head. He's hung out to dry, he thought it would be Bush, but Bush is protected by his family. He's not and he's all alone now. And he never saw it coming.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:33 AM
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15. Dick's in hell right now


And a good thing he's getting a head start on it as he is going to experience it in the afterlife, too.

Here's what I'm getting from the picture: desolation. Complete, utter, abject loneliness. His wife, next to him, is feeling it, too. For her it takes a slightly different tack: it is sapping any joy she ever had from life. She has deep concern for Dick and she has seen him at his lowest moments.

Remember the comments by the military leader who told us Cheney was a chicken? A fraidey-cat? Well, he is terribly afraid right now. To deal with it he is blocking the fear so he has shut down emotionally and that is why he looks so depressed and deflated.

MG, your comments about your uncle make so much sense and apply to this situation.


Cher

p.s. I loved reading everyone's comments. Let's do this photo reading thing more often!
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:40 AM
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17. Hey sweetie
Thanks for that. Thing is, it was MUCH easier for me to feel compassion for my uncle--and he and I NEVER saw eye to eye. Dick...well...Dick is a lesson for us all, I guess. Can we love our enemies as Jesus taught? For me, he's one of the ultimate challenges for that. Working on the compassion...working on it...

"Desolation"--EXCELLENT word. That's it exactly. :applause:
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:37 AM
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16. I get preoccupation
with his lifelong worldview: Him as superior man against a world of inferiors. Rifling desperately through his mental files of how he solves problems, looking for ways out, how to maintain his position of power.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 04:14 PM
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26. That's what I got...
That he is the only one that knows how to rule the world. A former boss had a sound file that played every time she got email .. "I'm surrounded by idiots"! I hated that thing. That's Cheney. If only people would give him his due ...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:07 AM
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19. All I can think of is surprise that he would allow himself to be caught on film like this.
This is not about a man who may not like baseball.

I see it as a person who wants to be in his bunker ... plotting.

Facing the reality that it is all over.

I confess that I never thought I'd see a photo like this, I was sure he would be living in Dubai by now - working with Halliburton and Blackwater and others, plotting the trick to bring the U.S. into Israel's war on Iran. And staying away from the law and we, the people he seems to hate so much.
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skye66 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:12 PM
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21. Still plotting
I am sure he is still plotting (multiple scenarios) from here, because he is desperate for validation and thus power. But he has few allies now, and doesn't know who to trust (and his paranoia doesn't help). He prefers to work through others, with no accountability, and is frustrated that he can no longer manipulate others so easily.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:08 PM
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32. "Desperate for validation"
Those words jumped off the screen at me when I read your post. That's how I read his speech yesterday (not the photograph). That speech was his LAST chance for validation, and he blew it. It would probably be more accurate to say his karma caught up with him with the cameras rolling, because there's no way he wouldn't blow it. Any validation is impossible for him at this point.
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skye66 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:14 PM
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33. I agree
Unfortunately, though, he *believes* that another attack of some kind would validate his fears, conveniently dismissing the fact that our actions have *created* more terrorists. I trust that he no longer has the power or influence necessary to support or manufacture such an event.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:19 AM
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20. Cheney is someone who cannot enjoy even the simple things in life
His facial expressions never shows any happiness. He conveys no joy, no love, only bitterness, hostility, contempt for others as well as himself, a self loathing individual.

If you have ever paid attention to when he speaks he talks out of one side of his mouth. I have always felt that this is because he tries to conceal his mouth to others that might be in the same room with him and he doesn't want them hearing what he is saying.


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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:35 PM
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24. You're right, MM
When my son is feeling bashful, he talks out of one side of his mouth (but it's a half-smile, not the evil grimace Cheney bestows on us). But yeah, it's definitely a way of hiding.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:37 PM
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22. I sense fear, and specifically apprehension.
He is watching something, but it isn't the game. That's the furthest thing from his mind. He is watching something in the distance, something still on the horizon. But it's rapidly getting closer and he knows it. It could be his own approaching death, or it could be an indictment for war crimes, or a critical piece of evidence that will lead to an indictment. Or it could be both, and it's anyone's guess--including his--which one will reach him first.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:19 PM
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23. Or his team is losing
;-)
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:38 PM
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25. bitter
angry and vengeful. Backed into a corner and fighting to the death. I'll get you.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:41 PM
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28. Excellent comments
Everyone is doing a wonderful job.

When PC does this kind of work, we do it the way you all are doing..... everyone gives an opinion and we work back and forth trying to narrow things down and reach a consensus.

We might also at this point, while still cooking on Cheney and what is going on with him, widen the scope and try to get rational and or intuitive information
about the rest of the picutre....

For example, where and when was it taken?
Does anyone know anything about the people around Cheney in this picture? ...one PC member keeps wondering about the people sitting next to Cheney....
some times factual back ground information is helpful in a photo reading.


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skye66 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 11:05 AM
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31. Hmmm
This is more difficult. I'm assuming the blond next to him is his wife, but I hesitate to say that because she looks a little unkempt (look at her roots). Lynne Cheney is a powerhouse in her own right, former chairwoman of the National Endowment of the Arts, etc. Leo sun/mercury (and pluto/chiron) square Taurus moon/saturn, so proud and with a craving for financial security. Check out the jewelry. Mars in Aries, so she's aggressive in defending him. The loss of power and status has changed their relationship dynamic (he has a lot of earth too).

The younger couple (?) to their left, assuming they're together, may be family. Better able to be in the moment, more adaptable to change. The older, wealthy couple (?) (in dark shades) may stand to gain in some way, assuming they're friends or associates. I may be projecting here though, since I can't imagine any other reason why they would want to be there.
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skye66 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:49 PM
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34. I found this on the Washington Post website, dated 5/18
"Cheney sat in the front row behind home plate in the President's Club area of the ballpark, protected by about a half dozen Secret Service agents. He appeared to be with his son-in-law, Philip Perry, and perhaps granddaughter, according to eyewitnesses.
Daughter Liz Cheney didn't join them, as she was taking the family spot on the Sunday shows touting "alternative " interrogation methods.
While Liz carried Dad's water before the cameras, Dad remained quiet and contemplative behind home plate.
Unlike his boisterous stance on the torture bully pulpit of late, the former vice president was remarkably subdued."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2009/05/take_dick_cheney_out_to_the_ba.html

So apparently the two on his left are his son-in-law and granddaughter. Those on his right may not be with him. Makes sense, seems like they don't want to be connected. Guess they're all in the President's Club section, though.

Here is the story with the picture (no info about the others with him):

http://www.nbcwashington.com/sports/baseball/The-Unfortunate-Face-of-DC-Baseball.html
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 06:48 AM
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30. Excellent discussion, guys!
One of my teachers (Rose Rosetree) always said to take whatever you get as valid. I think it helps create a piece of the puzzle. When I see pictures of Cheney, I hear the words "calculating" and "cold hearted". (That's one of the ways my gifts come - in words.) I would NOT want to be in this man's energy at all. It's toxic, to him and those around him. I'd love to see us work on more of this kind of thing going forward.

I will say this, though: if we choose to view him as a teacher, what lesson can we take from his role in our country? He's a very good example of power run to the extreme and what a toll it takes on someone's soul. (sorry for the rhyme). If we believe that our soul chooses a role (for lack of a better word) upon incarnation, what has been our lesson (collectively) from this?

We can look at him and really, the entire Bush group as master teachers, if we want, because we are surely learning lessons about how our government works, what kinds of power we are willing to cede and a host of other things through them. These are not easy lessons and it's clear we are struggling with them.

(It's early and I think I rambled a bit.)
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HOLOS Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:23 PM
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35. Nearly Always People Sitting Immediately Next To Cheney Are Secret Service
The News article said he had a 1/2 doz. in his baseball game attendance security detail (their view)...Cheney usually travels w/ a small army and always an ambulance...security personnel must camouflage themselves as totally detached and looking exactly like the crowd they are in...his wife is not there but she would be the only family member to sit next to him, w/ other family members sitting after the secret service. We know how deeply scared he is....
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skye66 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:41 PM
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36. They're there somewhere
but the girl to the right in the picture is definitely not SS, way too young. Maybe the guy to his left is not his son-in-law? The woman to Cheney's right seems detached, but doesn't look much like SS to me either. Maybe she's just well-disguised (look at that rock on her hand!). Maybe they are more behind him?
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 04:50 PM
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37. He looks like...
he's lost his connections on the inside. They prefer Obama's style, and don't want to run with him anymore. He's on his own. Bush has disowned him. Nobody he used to work with wants much to do with him. He's jealous and fearful of the new President because this new guy is saying stuff that does not compute to his lizard brain. Therefore he feels the urge to buck up against it. He really ought to read a bit of Eastern philosophy, because the more he fights this and refuses to let go, the harder it is going to be for him. (Okay, all that is wishful thinking as I am not psychic).
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