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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:35 PM
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Expelled Exposed
Just got a message from Eugenie Scott via Facebook asking everyone to link to Expelled Exposed, the National Center for Science Education’s debunking (that should read, “pummeling with facts”) of the fraudulent documentary Expelled hosted by pseudo-intellectual Ben Stein. The idea is to spread the word, and the links, so that whenever someone googles “expelled” they’ll end up with Expelled Exposed at the top of their listings. There’s already a wealth of information at the Expelled Exposed website already but Eugenie says we can expect even more on April 15th.

So if you've got a website or blog of your own, or you just happen to post somewhere else, let everyone know about Expelled Exposed and don't forget the link.
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 04:10 PM
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1. what's your name on facebook? so I can add you.
you can message it to me if you'd rather.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:26 AM
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2. Wow! Check the Orlando Sentinel link.
It starts with film critic Roger Moore's review of an Expelled pre-release screening. Interesting note on that, similar to the P.Z. Meyers flap: the producers made it clear that they wanted a "friendly" pre-release audience of religious believers and ID proponents.

When they realized they had screwed up and invited an actual member of the secular press, they tried to un-invite Moore. When he showed up anyway with notebook in hand and identified himself as a working journalist, they tried to make him sign a Confidentiality Agreement, which Moore refused to do. (A MOVIE CRITIC watching a movie is not supposed to write about it? WTF?)

And when all that failed--I bet you can predict this, even without your PsYkiK Powers--they accused Moore of lying and sneaking into the preview under false pretenses! Just as they did with Meyers.

The comments after Moore's article are worth reading all the way thru. Especially Dave Edwards' righteous smackdown of ID, one of the best short summaries I have ever read:

The assorted charlatans and fraudsters who hawk the various speciation variants of creationism, on the other hand, do NO experimental work, submit NO results to peer reviewed mainstream scientific journals, instead they spend their time and their large budgets engaging in bad apologetics founded upon theological pornogrpahy and rampant proselytising for an assertion-laden, evidence-free doctrine that is replete with scientific illiteracy, errors that can be spotted even by reasonably well-educated schoolchildren (at least those here in Europe) and in some instances, outright fabrications and falsehoods.

Yes, science has a bias. It's biased in favour of REALITY. It's biased in favour of RIGOROUS INTELLECTUAL LABOUR over charlatanism. It's biased in favour of HARD WORK over intellectual indolence. It's biased in favour of what is DEMONSTRABLE IN ACCORD WITH OBSERVATIONAL REALITY over and above evidence-free assertion, presupposition and rampant fantasising. Creationists, live with it.


Later, Edwards tangles with an ID-iot and posts 11 of their fave "canards" with rebuttals. Great stuff!

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_movies_blog/2008/02/is-ben-stein-th.html
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:45 PM
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3. Gah! I just did a little youtube viewing.
The IDiots are staining their pants over this movie. Of course, most of their videos have the ratings buttons disabled. :eyes:


I'm sending Expelled Exposed link to my brother. I'm sure some fundies will demand he show it in his science class. :banghead:
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