ah ha ha ha HDTV's are spying on us via the government

[Heddi]

just like in 1984.

And of COURSE this is why the gubment made HDTV's mandatory. Only that they didn't---they made digital receivers mandatory.

Oh well. never let facts get in the way of a good hysteria.

OF course this is coming from the person who has the uncanny ability to predict earthquakes on the other side of the globe because of a pain in their knee. And they have about 80% effective ExtraSensoryKneePerception....none of it documented or anything. No forewarnings to any cities or anything. No people SAVED because of it, you know, just an arthritic flare up that says there will be a big 'un somewhere, sometime, somewhere.....

oy.

Edit:

Here is the "letter to the editor" that started it all. Notice the well-written and science/technology based response :eyes:

ubject: Coupons for HDTV conversion
From: Fran F.
Date: Fri, April 11, 2008 7:07 pm
To: Editor

Dear Ken,

I was wondering if you have any info about why the gub'ment is providing $40 coupons to help people buy conversion boxes to upgrade older TVs to receive HDTV signals? Our government doesn't HELP us do ANYTHING. Why this? Are those conversion boxes some sort of surveillance device?

Just wondered if you know why they are doing this -- and, by the way -- where is all this money coming from?

Thanks,
Fran F.

***

Hi Fran,

Yes, the forced conversion to High Definition TV means we will only be able to receive a digital TV signal instead of an analog TV signal starting in 2009. They will then have the ability to manipulate that digital signal in any direction desired, for any purpose desired.

In addition, there is little doubt in my mind that all of the newer wide-screen High Definition TVs you find in retail outlets today have both tiny cameras and audio detection devices covertly installed within them so the NSA can both SEE and HEAR everything
that goes on in your home.
***it was at this point that I thought the editor was being very sarcastic and making fun of dear old Fran.

not so...***

The conversion boxes that they are offering with those free government coupons will surely have the same detection and surveillance devices which I assume are being installed in the newer HD TVs.

Do I have proof? No, but common sense tells me this is where it's going and it fits with the escalating evidence of the Big Brother, police state controlled society which we are being forced into.

I'm EQUALLY confident that covert monitoring/tracking chips have been installed in all automobiles manufactured since perhaps 1990 (maybe even beginning in the late 80s).

How to get around it? I haven't thought it out much, but here's a few ideas off the top of my head:

1. Don't buy the newer HD TVs and don't get their conversion box. Forget getting TV from broadcast or cable or satellite directly. One idea is to watch TV shows from your older computer with currently availabe TV reception hardware/software (newer computers probably have the surveillance devices installed) or send the video and audio from the computer into the AV jacks on your TV or VCR.

2. Watch TV shows from programs previously recorded on VHS tapes or from DVDs using your older TV and VCR equipment. This could become a cottage industry overnight if enough people become aware of the covert surveillance agenda riding along on the coattails of the forced conversion to High Definition digital television.

3. You can listen to only television audio from many inexpensive radios that include the TV audio bands from channel 2-13 In most cases, audio is good enough for me. I'm mainly looking for those few comedy offerings here and there that will provide a laugh. Most sitcoms are just awful: 'boring' or 'banal' would be complimentary descriptions.

It's also possible that some bright boys out there will be able to find and neutralize the camera and audio detection devices being installed and render them useless. Time will tell.

I'm certainly not going to buy a HD TV or get that conversion box. 95% of what you see on broadcast TV is total garbage anyway. It's intentionally designed to turn a person into an intimidated, dumbed-down, brainwashed zombie. So who needs it?

Regards, Ken
----------

oh god....there really ARE people like that out there. Seriously.

In the medical field we have names for people who think like this: Paranoid Schizophrenic.

[realisticphish]

1. Ah

because a high def screen = camera that can see us

uh huh.

[Heddi]

2. Did you see my edit

where I posted the letter to the editor that started this crazy stuff, and the crazy ass'er answer to Fran?

Oh god. Not only do we have cameras and tracking devices in our HDTV's and newer computers butin our CARS AS WELL.

now....my question is...who is watching all of these cameras? And who really gives a fuck what I'm doing on a Sunday night while my husband rearranges the book-case, I type on DU, and some show about boring loggers blathers on in the background. Oh look....the cats are on the fridge...make sure to log that one under "banal things Heather's cats do on a very regular basis", please...

:eyes:

[realisticphish]

8. those cats

are helping the terrorists win :patriot:

[varkam]

3. Seems like that would be terribly easy to debunk.

:shrug:

[Heddi]

4. Oh god Varkham

of course it's easy to debunk because it's beyond pure bunk---it's unmitigated bullshit based on some lunatics paranoid delusions of grandeur---"I'M important enough to be spied on by the government"---I think that the Government--US, worldwide, intergalactic, ect, has no shortage of 43 year olds living in their parent's basements that anxiously await the REAWAKENING of the complex simplicity of the Commodore 64 and the "Golden Years" of 1983-1984. I mean, those folks are SERIOUS spying material, don't you think?

Obviously this "letter to the editor" editor guy has some SERIOUS secrets locked up in his rarely used cranium---Loch Ness, Moth Man, etc. THAT's why the gov't gives three shits about his consumate viewing habits of Star Trek (the original series, of course), and Doctor Who/Red Dwarf Video Parties.

Besides---you know that the mere suggestion of "Debunking" only shows how deeply ingrained in the conspiracy you are...you probably WORKED FOR THE COMPANY that MADE the damn video monitors themselves, didn't you? Don't try denying it---Only Government Anti-Truth-To-Power-Shills will deny it, shilly.

[varkam]

6. Why does everyone think my name is varkham?!

There's not an H! :argh:

Okay, sorry. I'm better now :D

And yes, I are in ur televishion watchin u snore.

[Heddi]

7. because you're hamalicious

?? :)

I'm used to being called "heidi"...sorry...I thought there was an "H" :)

[varkam]

10. Awwww yeah! You know it!

:rofl:

It's fine. Even Skinner calls me varkham :(

[lizerdbits]

5. Delusions of self importance

Unless you're spying for another country or growing weed in your bathroom for medicinal purposes the government probably doesn't give a rats ass what you do. If you think they do, please see Heddi for a medical evaluation and possible referral to mental health services.

[realisticphish]

9. wouldn't a piece of duct tape cover it?

I mean, if the internet would find out where this camera is, it wouldn't be hard to cover it up

[jberryhill]

11. And that's why....

The DHS was telling us all to buy duct tape and plastic sheeting a few years back. They had to move all of the inventory of old fashioned duct tape off the shelfs in order to get the stuff that is TRANSPARENT at the right combination of wavelengths.

A-ha... You can't outwit a moron!

[realisticphish]

12. yes, but at the same time

we now have a supply of anti-spying duct tape.

Unless we use up the supply...


Red Green, you Canadian bastard! :mad:

[onager]

13. On-topic Golden Oldie

From Bob Dylan. Back in the good old days when most of the paranoia came from the RIGHT wing.

For younger readers: George Lincoln Rockwell was the founder of the American Nazi Party. He was shot by one of his own loony disciples, dying in a cloud of soap-bubbles at a laundromat (IIRC).

Well, I was feelin' sad and feelin' blue,
I didn't know what in the world I was gonna do,
Them Communists they wus comin' around,
They wus in the air,
They wus on the ground.
They wouldn't gimme no peace. . .

So I run down most hurriedly
And joined up with the John Birch Society,
I got me a secret membership card
And started off a-walkin' down the road.
Yee-hoo, I'm a real John Bircher now!
Look out you Commies!

Now we all agree with Hitlers' views,
Although he killed six million Jews.
It don't matter too much that he was a Fascist,
At least you can't say he was a Communist!
That's to say like if you got a cold you take a shot of malaria.

Well, I wus lookin' everywhere for them gol-darned Reds.
I got up in the mornin' 'n' looked under my bed,
Looked in the sink, behind the door,
Looked in the glove compartment of my car.
Couldn't find 'em . . .

I wus lookin' high an' low for them Reds everywhere,
I wus lookin' in the sink an' underneath the chair.
I looked way up my chimney hole,
I even looked deep inside my toilet bowl.
They got away . . .

Well, I wus sittin' home alone an' started to sweat,
Figured they wus in my T.V. set.
Peeked behind the picture frame,
Got a shock from my feet, hittin' right up in the brain.
Them Reds caused it!
I know they did . . . them hard-core ones.

Well, I quit my job so I could work alone,
Then I changed my name to Sherlock Holmes.
Followed some clues from my detective bag
And discovered they wus red stripes on the American flag!
That ol' Betty Ross . . .

Well, I investigated all the books in the library,
Ninety percent of 'em gotta be burned away.
I investigated all the people that I knowed,
Ninety-eight percent of them gotta go.
The other two percent are fellow Birchers . . . just like me.

Now Eisenhower, he's a Russian spy,
Lincoln, Jefferson and that Roosevelt guy.
To my knowledge there's just one man
That's really a true American: George Lincoln Rockwell.
I know for a fact he hates Commies cus he picketed the movie Exodus.

Well, I fin'ly started thinkin' straight
When I run outa things to investigate.
Couldn't imagine doin' anything else,
So now I'm sittin' home investigatin' myself!
Hope I don't find out anything . . . hmm, great God

[realisticphish]

14. They're in me wife's blouse!

/montypython