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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:23 PM
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At last! It finally happened
There has at last been a post (two of them, actually) whose tone was so hilariously hysterical that the mods moved them out of the Health Forum and into the conspiracy dungeon.

Codex Alimentarus Cartel, me arse!

I'm glad I lived long enough to see it.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 10:54 PM
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1. that was a glorious post
one for the ages.

In fact, I believe it was predicted by Nostradamus
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:27 AM
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7. Hitler planned to ban vitamins? Debunked in 10 seconds...
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 08:34 AM by onager
EDIT: Sorry, the reply should have been to the OP. G-r-r...

I'm a little hesitant to post this. Now the woos will be claiming they won WWII.

Theodor (Theo) Gilbert Morell (July 22, 1886 – May 26, 1948) was German dictator Adolf Hitler's personal physician. Morell was well-known in Germany for his unconventional, holistic and alternative treatments.

Excuse me...:rofl:

Although Morell had medical training and was licensed as a general practitioner in Germany long before he met Hitler...he came to be widely regarded as a quack. Historians have speculated his treatment contributed to Hitler's ill health...

Hitler was suffering from a skin rash and intestinal gas when, during a party at the Berghof near Berchtesgaden, he first met Morell, who said he could cure him within a year...

Morell began treating Hitler with various commercial preparations, including a combination of vitamins and E. coli bacteria called Multiflor.

As Hitler's physician Morell was constantly recommended to other members of the Nazi leadership but most of them, including Hermann Goering and Heinrich Himmler, immediately dismissed him as a quack.


Good grief! If Himmler considered him a quack, he must've sprouted feathers and a bill. From my reading, Himmler was just about the biggest crackpot in the top Nazi hierarchy--no small achievement. Along with Rudolf Hess, he was a firm believer in astrology. Despite all those breathless History Channel programs about Nazis & The Occult, there is little evidence that Hitler himself believed much in the occult. He's on the record more than once with complaints about the woo-wooery among some of his aides.

As Albert Speer related in his autobiography: "In 1936, when my circulation and stomach rebelled...I called at Morell's private office. After a superficial examination...Morell prescribed for me his intestinal bacteria, dextrose, vitamins, and hormone tablets.

For safety's sake I afterward had a thorough examination by Professor von Bergmann, the specialist in internal medicine at Berlin University. I was not suffering from any organic trouble, he concluded, but only from nervous symptoms caused by overwork...

To avoid offending Hitler I pretended that I was carefully following Morell's instructions, and since my health improved, I became for a time Morell's showpiece." (Albert Speer, Inside the Third Reich, 1970).

Morell apparently never told Hitler (or anyone else) what he was administering, other than to say the preparations contained various vitamins and "natural" ingredients.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Morell

Warning: the Wikipedia article contains this reference, which will of course immediately invalidate the article and all its other references--Irving, David (1983). Adolf Hitler : The Secret Diaries of Hitler's Doctor. PDF File Focal Point Publications. ISBN 0-283-98981-5

Full Disclosure: before he turned into a Holocaust-denying gugelhupf, I read a few of Irving's books. I certainly wouldn't buy any of them today. It's hard to remember that, at one time, Irving was known as a solid researcher and an entertaining writer of history.

It was sort of fun to see Irving yanking Rupert Murdoch's chain--and wallet--during the affair of the bogus Hitler diaries in the 1980's. Irving claimed the diaries were both real and fake at different times. Irving later admitted to writer Robert Harris that the only reason he said anything was for the money. At the time, Irving was about to be evicted from his house for missing the mortgage payments. Or so he claimed, anyway.

Harris' book Selling Hitler is a fascinating account of how a con man scammed millions of dollars from some of the world's biggest publishers. I think every skeptic should read it. For me, it's another example of why I can't EVER assume skepticism per se will protect me from the swindlers.


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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:07 PM
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2. Well, if there was ever going to be such a post it would have had to come from that poster
They have a free energy generator too, but they're not going to tell us about it because we're too stupid to know the TRUTH!!!111
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:12 PM
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3. I can't find it. Was it anti-vaccination stuff?
I think it's about time that those threads were moved into the dungeon. It's not merely stupidity, but dangerous stupidity that can get people killed.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:22 PM
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4. No, it was a conspiracy by the government
to adopt Hitler's plan for banning all vitamins!!!! The TROOF!!!!

Honestly, the gun loons are less emotional about being forcibly disarmed. It was a thing of beauty, worth a trip to the dungeon to locate it.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:58 PM
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5. BWAAAH!
Thats freaking hilarious! Being moved from Health to 9/11....Well that poster can have fun interacting with all the other tinfoil off our meds types...
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:24 AM
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6. Wow, it's illegal for me to take vitamin C?
"Actually it already is illegal in Europe, unless a CODEX doctor prescribes it"

I must have imagined the shelves full of multivitamins in every supermarket. I'd better go see my Nazi doctor.

It amuses me the way American woos so often write of Europe as a mysterious, forbidding place, about which they can write any nonsense because nobody could possibly refute it. Huh?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:26 AM
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9. I got into it once with one of those nutters.
Must have been ages ago in GD during the first Codex freakout. I seem to recall the conversation going something like this:

Woo: But teh vitamins isn't available over the counter in teh UK!!!1

Me: Yes they are. You can buy them in any grocery or health foods store.

Woo: How could you POSSIBLY know that?!?!?!!?

Me: Because I live there.

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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:56 AM
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10. Not just in wimpy little pills, either
I had a bread-baking fad a while back, and so I've got a tub of vitamin C powder in my kitchen (it's used as a dough conditioner). I've probably got enough of the stuff to raise Linus Pauling from the dead, and I didn't have to bribe any Nazis to get it.

"Codex Alimentarius" sounds very Harry Potter to me.
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:47 AM
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8. You forgot to mention the secret government spraying program.
I think that was the same thread, I saw that late last night right before bed so I can't remember.
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