GRRR!!! I hate reasonable DUers pushing fallacious arguments.

[Odin2005]

Like the "if you support the war why don't you sign up?" talking point that ALWAYS pops up in some flame-fest involving Afghanistan. As if you are not allowed to have an opinion on foreign policy without being in the military. :eyes:

Another one I run into is when some religious person treats their so-called "mystical experience" as self-evident truth and is offended when they are told to be more skeptical of their own perceptions.

What other fallacious arguments do you see otherwise reasonable people make that drive you nuts?

[TZ]

1. The old "well thats my experience" so it must be true for

everyone. Yes, I can understand if you had a been reaction to something (say a vaccine)you'd be wary but that doesn't necessarily mean that its a common experience at all.

[Odin2005]

2. Ah, yes, the "my personal subjective experience is more important then facts" argument drives...

...me nuts.

[mr blur]

3. Well, I hate it when I tell people they're delusional or bonkers,

and they get offended. :shrug:

[cosmik debris]

4. Real Liberals don't behave that way.

If they were real liberals they would see that you are right.

[bluedawg12]

7. ....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. I'm fine with that argument.

It illustrates the point that most who support the war in Afghanistan are cowards and hypocrites.

[Djinn]

6. I'm massively against the Afghan "war"

I'm hugely against the installation of criminal scum warlords into Afghan "government". I'm against ALL wars for empire but I don't think it makes sense to say "if you agree with it go fight there"

I would have supported the VC but I doubt I would have picked up arms for them.

[Orrex]

8. How does that follow?

:shrug:

[bluedawg12]

9. "Well, some home remedy or other worked for me as a child."

Or:

Blanket statements like: disease is from suggestion.

And this gem:

"your 'millions of examples,'were millions of people that were sick. I count that as one example. "

[bluedawg12]

10. The false choice argument.

"Either we evolved from mud and ooze or someone Created us as complex beings."

Riiiight. Those are the only two choices? :eyes:

[realisticphish]

11. a related one: the false equivocation

2,000 physicists claim this. One TV repairman in Montana thinks this. We should consider these to be equally valid

[trotsky]

12. Ah yes, the "both sides" nonsense that we got from FAUX News.

The conservative version of postmodernism.

[realisticphish]

19. honestly

it's liberal as well. Especially with medicine, or the environment, or anything related to liberal causes

[trotsky]

26. Oh absolutely.

Didn't mean to imply the left is immune. Gosh no, I put up with that crap on a daily basis over in the Health dungeon.

[realisticphish]

31. oh, yeah, i know

i think i have a bigger problem with it on the left; we're supposed to be the "smart" ones. The right are supposed to be the whackos :D

[bluedawg12]

15. Yup! The rightwing did it on global climate change.

The majority of scientists agreed that there was anthropogenic climate change.

But rightwing apologists like the late Robin Cook, would get on TV and use his name and "scientific authority"
to claim that scientists disagreed and the jury was still out on this.

Bull- Ka! Ka!

[nickgutierrez]

21. And evolution, of course

"Teach the controversy" is another "good" one.

[bluedawg12]

23. One must be fair and balanced.

Teach intelligent design, after all nothing is better than a theory that has a foregone conlusion in it.

There is a creator, therefore, only a creator could create creation.

[realisticphish]

25. science is hard

thus=God

sorry, not God; a "creator"

[LeftishBrit]

27. I'm a bit daft here...

but to me 'the late Robin Cook' means a British politician who resigned from the Cabinet in 2003 in protest against the decision to go to war in Iraq.

Was there also an American right-winger called Robin Cook?

[SidDithers]

34. Maybe Robin Cook the author?...

the one who wrote Coma and Outbreak.

Sid

[CanSocDem]

13. Some one or some thing....

...is out to get me. As if, their paranoia affects us all.


"...you are not allowed to have an opinion on foreign policy without being in the military."

You are not allowed to have an opinion on the laws of science...unless you believe in them.


.

[JitterbugPerfume]

14. How it was in the good old days

believe me I was there and a lot of ways it was really crappy

especially the '50s and '80s

[bluedawg12]

16. I love the straw man agrument.

It sets a false premise only to disprove it. It's usually pretty obvious.

[trotsky]

17. Oh yeah, those good old days.

When everyone and their neighbor had measles, rubella, chicken pox, yellow fever, and they all got together for polio parties and no one THEY know of had any problems, at least compared to those DEADLY VACCINES we have today! :eyes:

[bluedawg12]

18. Longing for simpler times.

"The Spanish flu, also known as La Gripe Española, or La Pesadilla, was an unusually severe and deadly strain of avian influenza, a viral infectious disease, that killed some 50 million to 100 million people worldwide over about a year in 1918 and 1919. It is thought to have been one of the most deadly pandemics so far in human history."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H1N1

[realisticphish]

20. they didn't take enough ginseng

they just didn't WANT to be healthy :shrug:

[bluedawg12]

22. They weren't getting those awful medications.

That save lives. :P

[realisticphish]

24. maybe

BUT ONLY AT THE COST OF THEIR VERY SOULS

[LeftishBrit]

28. I hate...

reasonable or unreasonable DU-ers being prepared to quote and endorse right-wing people and sources and viewpoints if they share some of the same enemies.

E.g. Ron Paul, antiwar.com, even Pat Buchanan!

Perhaps one could call paleoconservativism a form of swine flu. If liberals/left-wingers let it mix its DNA with theirs, it can become much more dangerously infections!

[CreekDog]

29. If you hate it then why don't you leave?

j/k :rofl: :pals:

[CreekDog]

30. Western medicine shows no improvement among people in the control group

:crazy:

[semillama]

32. Here's an example - in cartoon form!

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com

[Name removed]

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