So, I posted a link to someone who gets CDC updates on swine flu

[GoneOffShore]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5547011&mesg_id=5547011

Nothing, not a sausage.

[trotsky]

1. Well, what did you expect?

Calm, reasoned observation and analysis - that sinks like a stone on DU. Say that Cheney created the swine flu in his bunker and you've got yourself a thread worthy of 200 responses.

[Silent3]

2. Here ya go...

Better?

[GoneOffShore]

4. Mmmm - Bratwurst!!!

and :beer:

[realisticphish]

3. i love the fact

that one of the two responses is from one of us :D

[Occulus]

5. I just kicked it to the top, just because

:D

[Name removed]

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[bluedawg12]

7. Here's a nice snausage, I'm a sharing kind of pup. :)

That link has done some good, as I was able to share good info. about public health matters from a progressive site in another more reasonable discussion on GD.

[TZ]

8. I got a whole bunch of links from my boss this morning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_H1N1_flu_outbreak
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/en/index.html
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/phase/en/index.html
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/influenza/pipguidance2009/en/index.html
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/influenza/pandemic/en/index.html
http://www.pandemicflu.gov/index.html

Feel free to share/use these links. As my employer is a influenza vaccine manufactuerer and may be asked to help by the government, I may be able to access the most up to date info on this flu.

[GoneOffShore]

9. Thanks for posting these

I'm sure that they'll be very useful.

[lizerdbits]

10. Maybe you'll get to play with some eggs

Harvesting the fluid is a little creepy if their huge eyes are staring back at you.

[TZ]

11. Naw not here.

The West Coast Labs do the vaccine work! We are just monoclonals here.

[bluedawg12]

12. Great sources!

Thank you. :hi:

OK no jokes about: "The yolks on you!" :rofl:

[mr blur]

13. Good try, though.

:thumbsup:

[bluedawg12]

14. this is a really good explanation

by one of our DU'ers about what might be under the surface with some of the reponses to matters medical and scientific. I am reposting it here for discussion. I have talked to the author about this and I doubt he would mind me reposting this here, at all.


>>http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5545290&mesg_id=5547738


Two Americas (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-28-09 12:31 AM
Response to Original message
35. not sure what people are lookin for
Edited on Tue Apr-28-09 12:35 AM by Two Americas

Just as with hurricane warnings or tornado warnings, the agencies are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Here is what is happening - after 8 years of the Bush administration, people here are now suspicious of everything from every public agency and are taking a libertarian "no government" view. The right wing is plying you - I can promise you that. We saw it with the smear campaign against the (very progressive) food safety bill being considered by Congress that would re-regulate the food industry, and restore inspections and that is opposed by corporate agri-business. Extreme right wing organizations started a fear campaign that people's home grown organic tomatoes would be confiscated and who knows what else - all lies, all nonsense - and dozens of organic organizations took that ball and ran with it and spread the lies all over the Internet.

I think we need to be careful that we are not inadvertently supporting the right wing attacks on government. There are right wing organizations pushing an agenda that there should be no public health agencies, no government involvement in public health and safety issues, that no agencies can ever be trusted, that no science should be honored, that no public servants have integrity. This is a right wing theme, and people are promoting it here.<<

[TZ]

15. Update. on Swine flu vaccine development

FYI: (sorry about the source, this is what I was supplied;))
Scientists: Swine Flu Vaccine Still Months Away
Tuesday, April 28, 2009


U.S. scientists hope to have a key ingredient for a swine flu vaccine ready in early May, but are finding that the novel virus grows slowly in eggs — the chief way flu vaccines are made.

Even if all goes well, it still will take a few months before any shots are available for the first required safety testing, in volunteers.

"We're working together at 100 miles an hour to get material that will be useful," Dr. Jesse Goodman, who oversees the Food and Drug Administration's swine flu work, told The Associated Press.

Using samples of the new swine flu, taken from people who fell ill in Mexico and the U.S., scientists are engineering a strain that could trigger the immune system without causing illness.

"We're about a third of the way" to that goal, Dr. Ruben Donis of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in an interview Tuesday.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518261,00.html

[bluedawg12]

17. Wow!

That's great progress.

[lizerdbits]

16. All the information you need is the Daily Show

Jason Jones reports from "The Center For Stuff I Heard From Some Guy." That makes me think of most of the health scare lounge. :rofl:

[moggie]

18. That was great!

"Keep us posted on the hunt for the zombie British journalist, John Oliver"

It definitely reminded me of DU!