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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 04:57 PM
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Meet Ida
Ida is a 47 million year old, perfectly preserved primate recovered from the Messel Pit in Germany.

Ida is the most complete early primate fossil ever found, and scientists believe that she could be one of our earliest ancestors. She is a remarkable link between the first primates and modern humans and despite having lived 47 million years ago, her features show striking similarities to our own.




Lots here:

http://www.revealingthelink.com/

(or check out the discussion at Raptard Ready:

http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=93562 )
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 11:40 AM
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1. Holy CRAP!
I hadn't seen the fossil yet. That is mind-blowing! Everything is there!
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 11:55 AM
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2. So what? It just creates two more gaps.
Now there's more places for God to be!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 02:58 PM
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3. Note to self, "never read rapture ready while sober"
Perhaps this will be the great deception.
How many will abandon their faith once they see the 'proof' of evolution.
Pray, people.

....

I think perhaps its...A LEMUR MONKEY!!
Amazing isn't it? Secular Scientists stand in awe around the fossil of a lemur monkey whilst its cousins (not ours) still live and breathe in our modern world

....

There have been millions of fossils found and they are all in their complete forms, and not one transitionial undisputed fossil has ever been found, every claim of a transitional fossil ever claimed after time gets refuted as this new claim will as well, these evolutionist are so desperate to find just one transitional fossil, to try and prove there theory, but they would have to find millions upon millions of these fossils to have any leg to stand upon....If evolution were true millions upon millions of transitional fossils would have been found, but if creation were true all the fossils would be in their complete forms, and that is exactly what we find in the fossil record (we have millions of fossils found in the fossil record and they are in their complete forms, and it confirms creation).....Evolution is a fairy tale!, the tooth fairy has just as much truth as darwins theory of evolution, sadly many people have been deceived by this fairy tale....Darwin himself said if that his theory should be discarded if they fail to find these transiitonal fossils, he believed that they would be found, but well over 100 years later there still missing....Or better yet there not missing they never existed at all!

....

If the earth and all the lifeforms on it are as old as what Darwinist scientists claim, do you know how many fossils there should be everywhere if darwinian evolution is true? Even Darwin postulated the existence of thousands upon thousands of fossils that should clearly show the connections betwixt species; they are not there.


:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

I'm gonna need a drink.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 03:05 PM
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4. first of all
lemurs aren't monkeys. Lemurs and monkeys share a common ancestor, but of course to these people those don't exist.


Do they REALLY not understand how fossils work? Do they think that every animal that dies is fossilized? Are they just fundamentally stupid, or is this entirely based on teachings?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 03:18 PM
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5. I'd go with fundamentally stupid.
To be fair, some are probably more obstinate than stupid. But teh stupid is still pretty thick over there.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:29 AM
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6. That one dissenting voice on RR was interesting...
Edited on Fri May-22-09 10:30 AM by onager
Originally Posted by chatcoil: You know... The utter dismissal of science is appalling here...

One response: Sorry, but that is funny...most of us like and enjoy science...

Most of us here have a very firm grasp on the science, and the supposed science, behind evolution.


Immediately followed by this, showing exactly how much they love and grasp Teh Science Behind Evolution:

Most of us fully admit there is both natural selection and speciation as that is observable science, what is not observable is one animal kind turning into another, it has never been observed; no chain going back to primordial soup, no tree of common descent, etc...

:wtf: :rofl:
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 05:18 AM
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7. It's just roadkill!
Edward Current, as always, nails it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNf3BfvxmBE
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:41 AM
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8. Checkmate Roadkillists! n/t
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 11:19 AM
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9. If they misstate the premise in a strawman "missing link"
tehn, it rallies the faithfull to spend all their time on the missing link ignoring what the site actually says about Ida:

"Ida is one of the transitional species that Darwin wrote about 150 years ago, even though they were missing in the fossil record at that time."

Transitional species. Not missing link.

Yeah, they (RR) like science so much that they take an immediately closed minded, defensive posture. :eyes:


I guess they imagine the world should be one big garbage pile of intact specimens going back to the primordial ooze. Quite a high hurdle set by those whose contribution is: "because it says so in The Book."

"Until now, scientists studying primitive primate evolution in the Middle Eocene period have only had fragments of fossils to study as they try to understand how early primates split into the prosimian and anthropoid groups." - http://www.revealingthelink.com/the-implications/what-ida-tells-us
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