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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 07:25 PM
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Apparently the Ends justify the Means so it's ok to use woo because of the placebo effect.
So say the usual suspects in the Alt-Med thread in GD. Ad in the references to "dogmatic scientific orthodoxy" and "but they laughed at Copernicus, Galileo, and Fulton!!!".

:banghead:
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 07:52 PM
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1. to quote carl sagan
"But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown."
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 08:19 PM
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2. Dogmatic scientific orthodoxy, as we all know,
means "science is hard and stuff, it makes my brain hurt." Now I'm curious, I'll have to look and hopefully not get involved. I'd just be banging my head against a wall.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 08:24 PM
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3. Now we are uncaring robots that are against support and kindness.
BASTARDS, I was there in the hospital with my stepdad in the month before he died of pancreatitis and they compare that to woo-woo. FUCK THEM!!! :grr:
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 08:36 PM
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4. Just
wow.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 08:59 PM
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5. Oh man, I just read through that thread
The arrogance and willful ignorance on display is astounding.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 02:00 AM
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6. Had to stop reading
before I ended up giving myself a coronary and being put into their new Woo Factories/hospitals.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 03:19 AM
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7. Don't you mean plecibo?
they almost convinced me.




























:sarcasm:
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CanSocDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:20 PM
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8. Like they kept telling you....


....over there, "If it works, what's the problem...??"

Unless you'd rather be sick....!?!?

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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 08:36 AM
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9. It doesn't work that's the problem
You might want to read my post about the woman who died from cancer because she "knew" the alternate stuff works.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 03:47 PM
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10. This reminds me of a thread in the Healthscare Lounge a few years ago
In it, one poster defended the use of placebo by exactly this same "ends justify the means" reasoning. When I argued that the healthcare provider would still be a liar and potentially engaging in fraud, the DUer snarkily asked if I'd told my then-two-year old that Santa Claus isn't real, either.

My equally snarky answer was that it's one thing to tell a fairy tell to a small child; it's quite another to tell a fairy tale to a nominal adult. Presumably, the latter should be able to deal with the truth without wrapping it in rainbows.

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