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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:31 AM
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Absolutely EPIC thread in GD: NASA to bomb the Moon
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uriel1972 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 07:03 AM
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1. it's a scream
both ways
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 07:59 AM
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2. Not the first one on it, either.
It's the topic that keeps on giving.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 08:11 AM
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3. The moon is fragile for I can blot it out with my thumb.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 08:25 AM
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4. One of my favorite quotes:
"The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church."
--Ferdinand Magellan
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:00 AM
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5. I wonder if that quote is apocryphal.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:15 AM
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6. I have heard there are some doubts as to its authenticity.
But it still kicks ass. :)
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:33 AM
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7. Almost certainly not true
The last churchmen to seriously put an argument that the earth is flat were back around the 6th century.

Flat Earth

However, there is some persistence of flat earth thinking during the pre-medieval times and beyond. Examples include: Lucretius (99-55 BCE); the Bible; Lactantius (245-325 CE); St. Cyril of Jerusalem (315-386 CE); St. John Chrysostom (344-408 CE); Severian, Bishop of Gabala (408 CE); Orosius (385-420 CE); Diodorus of Tarsus (394 CE); and Cosmas Indicopleustes (547 CE).
But, look at where we are: 547 CE, just barely setting foot inside early medieval times with a single verifiable proof of flat earth thinking. Where does this leave the argument that medieval people believed the earth to be flat and were scared of sailing of its edge?!

Spherical Earth

Then, as we proceed into the medieval age, there's abundant evidence of spherical earth thinking. Examples include: St. Isidore of Seville (560-636 CE); the Venerable Bede (673-735 CE); St. Virgil of Salzburg (Vergilius), Bishop (745-784 CE). From here, there is an unending list spherical earth belief represented in the historical record.

It is interesting to note that some of the early spherical proponents during this time were cautious with their views, likely due to fear of repercussions from the Church. Some would simply refer to the ancient Greek teachings, quoting 'the philosophers' as teaching this or that, though without finding fault with them. Others would entirely sidestep the issue by saying we have no reason to ponder such thoughts because all we need to know is in the Bible. Examples of these two cautious approaches include: Saint Basil, Bishop of Caesarea (329-379 CE); St. Augustine (354-430 CE); and St. Isidore of Seville (560-636 CE).

In our view, the Venerable Bede (673-735 CE) represents a major turning point. He not only wrote of a spherical earth, but he did so without the cautious approach described above. This seems to indicate that a spherical view is widely held AND that the Church is not concerned about a scriptural conflict. Bede is also a major turning point because medieval writers who followed him quoted him frequently.

http://www.ethicalatheist.com/docs/flat_earth_myth_ch2.html


There's a bit more argument after that about whether the antipodes (from wherever the people are) are inhabitable or not.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:33 AM
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8. No wonder lunacy is called lunacy!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:47 AM
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:35 PM
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10. The second posting
makes the logic and reasoning center in my brain sad.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 03:01 PM
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11. oh. my. It makes my backwards writing look reasonable
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 03:05 PM
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12.  I sat there stunned, wondering what the heck does this all mean?
too little oxygen to the brain? too many drugs?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 03:05 PM
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13. argghhhhhhhhhh or bwahahahahahahaah?
Edited on Thu Oct-08-09 03:08 PM by uppityperson
"Okay, that was not from me, but from something deep within and it had to be said. "

My new favorite Duer indeed! o.m.g.

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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 03:26 PM
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14. Listening to the secret psychic moon critters in the crater!
There's GOTTA be some damn fine drugs behind that.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 05:51 PM
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15. ...
That is possibly the most plain old fucked up crazy/stupid thing I have ever seen posted on the DU.

And that's saying something.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 05:55 PM
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16. I don't know. I once saw someone claim that ever since Obama was elected they were hearing clicks
Edited on Thu Oct-08-09 05:56 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
on their phone because he was wiretapping them for speaking truth to power or some such thing. And that person wasn't a troll. And is in fact still a member of DU in good standing.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 07:16 PM
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19. if i hadn't read the rest of the thread
I would have thought this was an elaborate joke
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 06:00 PM
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17. I don't care what people choose to believe in their own lives.
Edited on Thu Oct-08-09 06:13 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
If they want to pray that the the moon stays pure or if they want to devote their time to trying to protect the moon with their minds...fine. More power to them. But when they say things "We shouldn't do that because someone somewhere might find it spiritually harmful" then I have a problem. Scientific policy should be made based on scientific facts, not superstitions. Even more frustrating is when people try to disguise superstition in science. "We don't know what might happen!"
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:27 AM
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22. OMFG...nt
Sid
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 07:04 PM
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18. So much moronic superstition. Pathetic.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 07:56 PM
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 09:18 PM
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21. Tell your friends they need to send a Vermont Teddy Bear to the moon and apologize.
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