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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:01 PM
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Woo's Favorite Quotes?
I vote: "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:38 PM
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1. I mentioned it earlier
but it gets repeated an awful lot, especially by those who believe the universe may be electrical in nature (ahem.)

"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -Einstein
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:02 AM
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6. That constant yearning to quote actual scientists
is actually sort of poignant.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 01:13 AM
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2. "One man's hogwash is another's spiritual truth."
Well, I'm sure it's been said more succinctly, but... this one is very recent.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 05:58 AM
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3. Not really a quote, but usually some reference to Galileo
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:18 AM
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7. Ah, you want quote quotes.
I just pulled my recent favorite from a DUwooer.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:11 AM
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4. Anything that has quantuum or all natural in it.
:eyes:
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:45 AM
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5. I did a quick search of their forum.
Edited on Tue May-18-10 09:46 AM by woo me with science
Some they have cited:



"Mechanistic reductionism often masquerades as maturity"
Richard Tarnas


“It all depends on how we look at things, and not on how things are in themselves. The least of things with a meaning is worth more in life than the greatest of things without it.”
Carl Gustav Jung


“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
Gandhi


The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Bertrand Russell


"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
Thomas Jefferson


"Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure....
It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us.
Nelson Mandela


"Let us treat men and women well; treat them as if they were real. Perhaps they are."
Ralph Waldo Emerson


I used to be drop-dead terrified of the Illuminati/Family/Anunaki/lizard people.... But ....Now they're just a big, scary-faced balloon. One good pin (made of light, of course) and they'll fly around the room backward till they collapse fffft on the floor. Remember how Professor Lupin taught the Hogwarts students to deal with the boggart in the wardrobe--with laughter. "Riddikulus!"
A DU-er


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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:55 PM
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12. ROFLOL!
The Gandhi one definitely has to be on of the top ones.
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:12 AM
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8. "You don't have the imagination to think outside the box",
and variations thereof.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 12:10 PM
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9. Not a quote, but variants of 'Science is just another religion'
The most purple phrase on those lines was an accusation of some of us being 'Worshippers at the altar of reductionist science'.

Though I think my favourite argument ever was that Jenny McCarthy MUST be right about autism, or why would they have given her TWO book contracts?!
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 01:00 PM
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10. Ha!
Do you remember that idiot that told me all the data on gardasil's efficacy and safety was "faith based science"?. That was the first time I realized that anti-vaxxers think exactly like creationists....
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 01:18 PM
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11. "But...I saw it on Oprah!"
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 08:50 PM
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13. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamed of in your philosophy"
Invoked any time a new and/or as-yet-unexplained phenomenon is encountered.

Also used whenever someone points out, for example, that there is absolutely no evidence that "chi" exists.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 01:20 AM
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15. You can make their heads explode with that one.
Edited on Wed May-19-10 01:27 AM by onager
Woo interpretation: Horatio is a boring ol' materialist who can't believe in a talking ghost.

Maybe not. The way many experts in Shakespearean English explain that quote, it's more ANTI-woo.

The line is simply saying something we skeptics often point out - philosophy (or physics, evolution, science, goofy wooisms etc.) can't explain everything we might come across in the world. At least not yet.

Here's one of the experts, from the useful "Misunderstood Shakespeare" website:

An apparently straightforward line, said by Hamlet to his old friend Horatio, but Frank Kermode has suggested in his book "Shakespeare’s Language" that the use of “your” has been misunderstood.

Rather than “your” referring to Horatio, Kermode argues that its meaning may be closer to “the”.

Hamlet is thus not criticising Horatio’s earthbound world-view, but saying that philosophy itself does not encompass all that mankind may come across.

In fact this sense of “your” still appears in modern speech...in for example, the phrase “You see, the problem with your Russians is...”


http://shakespeareantheatre.suite101.com/article.cfm/misunderstood_shakespeare
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:40 PM
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35. Yep, because ackowledging that I don't know everything...
...means that god did it!
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:15 PM
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14. One time, there was this cat that could do acupuncture
No shit: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/05/18/petscol051810.DTL

It was technically posted in the lounge and not one of the woo sub-fora, but it brought out a couple of woos, and it technically wasn't a quote, but it was woo-fully ignorant nonetheless.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 02:56 AM
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17. I have a cat who always races ahead of me to the bathroom
She perches on the sink and when I'm done, expects a full blissed-out body massage.

I can only conclude she was owned by perverts in a past life.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 01:39 PM
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18. My cat Basil does that too.
He runs into the bathroom first. Apparently a couple of days ago he drank pee-water while he was in there with my husband.

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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:55 AM
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20. mine too
he stands on the edge of the bathtub and stares at me. or he'll go guard the door
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 02:53 AM
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16. "There are no accidents"
Looks at Bangladeshi kid...

"It's no accident you're starving, y'know."

Another day, another consciousness raised.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 10:46 PM
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19. Anything with "Scientism" or "Reductionism".
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 10:13 AM
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21. The woowoo credo...
Edited on Fri May-21-10 10:15 AM by SidDithers
I'm sure everyone's seen it, and it's getting a bit dated, but there's good stuff in there:
http://www.insolitology.com/tests/credo.htm

My fave? #10

Use the word quantum in a sentence, despite not knowing what it means. For a more impressive effect, use it with the name of your favorite superstition - "quantum dowsing" sure sounds mighty serious.



Sid
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 08:19 PM
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22. #40 is pretty great, too
40 When all else fails, try to redefine what "skeptical", "skeptic" and "skepticism" mean so that you become a 'real' skeptic who accepts your own nonsense at face value.


Love it! I can't count the number of times I've been told what true skepticism is or that I'm not a true skeptic. Hell, it's happened even here in the SSP group!
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 06:34 AM
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23. something that insinuates that Woo is a progressive "knowledge system"
compared to the "knowledge system" of "Evil pharma/Establishment/Lizard Men/Corporate/Fascist/Communist/Feminist/Patriarchal" (delete as appropriate) science.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 12:16 PM
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24. My latest fave...
from a particularly bizarre character on the I/P forum, who I think *has* finally been TS'd, is:

'The world would be a better place if you read up on chaos theory and weren't such a beta male cunt.'

(I regret to say that it wasn't addressed to me, especially as I am not male; but still, a most profound comment on the world!)
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 12:45 PM
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25. ah, yes, chaos theory
the deepest love of high school seniors who read michael crichton and decide that they're now mathematicians
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 01:45 PM
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27. Alas, his "sage" advice resulted in a "perfect" tombstone.
:evilgrin:
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 08:26 AM
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31. Not to argue with perfection but...
How exactly could one be a "beta male cunt"? That seems to defy anatomy, except perhaps for a few hermaphrodites I suppose.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 09:03 AM
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33. WTF??
Was that our "magical" tombstoned friend?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 10:15 AM
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34. No...
it was someone called Perfect Sage, who seems to have had a habit of (a) getting very drunk; and (b) whenever very drunk, taking the opportunity to post on DU, generally the I/P forum. His posts generally included lots of swear-words, references to Sun Tsu, and a tendency to taunt Israel and Jews for not winning enough wars. The other day, he went to extremes even by his own standards, and got himself TS'd.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 01:44 PM
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26. Not a fave among all "woos" but a fave among plenty (also not a quote, a picture)


Seems to sum up many of their "theories," don't ya think?
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 02:10 PM
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28. 50 points to whoever posts that
the next time anyone starts ranting about zionists
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 08:01 AM
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30. Be glad to.
Any thread about Israel will probably do...
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:23 AM
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29. Certainly the attitude of whale.to, which is sometimes used to justify health woo!
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 08:28 AM
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32. Sadly, also a fave among some skeptics and atheists too.
*sigh*
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:43 PM
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36. An elderly woman and former teacher told me once...
...that on 9/11 there were no Jews in the World Trade Center, implying that they were in on it. The worst part? She was a volunteer at a Kerry for President campaign office.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 05:02 PM
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37. I like this one...
Edited on Mon Jun-21-10 05:05 PM by laconicsax
"One can charge water with [Emoto cards], etc. Just got out the merkaba from the pyramid, and now I have infinite love and gratitude radiating all the time from my desk."
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