Now I'm getting depressed.

[LeftishBrit]

I know it's my fault for getting involved in certain debates; but it really gets me down when people start their accusations of 'worshipping science', etc. - it reminds me of the anti-secularists and so-called 'pro-lifers' who cause problems from time to time in the UK, let alone the USA. (And indeed people like Melanie Phillips are both fiercely anti-secularist and vaccine-scaremongers.)

[EvolveOrConvolve]

1. I'm just tired of fighting the fight

And yet I still jump in when I know that I can't make an ignorant person less ignorant unless they're willing to listen.

[realisticphish]

2. it makes me realize

what a gulf exists between their reality and mine. Even most religious people will agree on the platform of general logic in debates, even if in the end they remain solid on faith

[laconicsax]

3. Is it really any surprise that reality deniers are quick with the RW memes?

"worshiping science," "personal responsibility," "magic of the free market," etc.

[Odin2005]

4. A certain anti-vax nut is pissing me off.