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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:10 AM
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Posting here because in GD this droppped like a rock
Creating hell near you..............A whole lotta links,a commentary from a mail list from an atendee of a Nami convention.....and more..

http://www.psychsearch.net/TEENSCREEN.HTML
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art31131.asp
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2005...
http://www.alterpsy.org/privileges.html
http://www.rethink.org/news+campaigns/policies/2-police...
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0506/S00263.htm
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2005/06/17/psychia...
http://www.globalnewsmatrix.com/modules.php?name=News&f...
http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/03/10/07.php
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Letters/letters.html



In its final amended form, L.D. 151, An Act to Improve the Delivery of Maine's Mental Health Services, would set up a one-year, Augusta-based pilot project to treat a maximum of 50 people. It would trigger a court review of patients with multiple psychiatric hospitalizations and repeated outpatient noncompliance with their medication orders. When those patients are discharged from Riverview Psychiatric Center in Augusta - one of Maine's two public psychiatric hospitals - they could be ordered by a court to participate in an "assertive community treatment" process, or ACT.

ACT provides intensive outpatient support and monitoring with a team of mental health professionals. While there are already a number of ACT teams working with recently discharged patients in Maine communities, they don't have the authority to require medication compliance and often simply stop seeing patients who drop off their radar or become noncompliant, hostile or uncontrolled.

The pending law would create a new ACT team dedicated to serving community commitment clients. If team members determined that a client has stopped taking medications as ordered and is showing even mild symptoms, the team would be empowered to have the client readmitted to the hospital against his will. Once restabilized, the client could once again be discharged to community commitment and the ACT program. The law would limit the initial commitment period to four months and subsequent discharges to more than one year.The measure also would fund temporary housing for those assigned to the program.

The bill's sponsor, Sen. John Nutting, D-Leeds, said Monday that family members, frantic to protect the well-being of their loved ones, have been a primary driver of the proposal. Other pressures include the societal costs of having people with poorly controlled mental illness living in Maine communities, as well as the cost of repeated hospitalization or incarceration of those who become dangerous. The measure has the support of a broad coalition of health care groups and law enforcement officials.

http://www.globalnewsmatrix.com/modules.php?name=News&f...

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AgapePress) - An Indiana high school is being threatened with a lawsuit for subjecting a 15-year-old student to a mental health screening examination without her parents' knowledge or consent.

The Rutherford Institute (TRI), a nonprofit civil liberties organization, has filed a tort claim notice on behalf of Michael and Teresa Rhoades, whose daughter Chelsea received a mental health exam at Penn High School in Mishawaka. Indiana state law requires that such a notice of intent to sue must be sent to any government agencies, including schools, before a personal injury action can be initiated against them.
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/6/222005a.asp



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Teenscreen presentations at NAMI convention (notes from an attendee)

Interesting that the girl from Columbia talked about how important parental consent is. She also said that the goal is that first appointment for that family with a mental health professional. In otherwords, this is just a psychiatric recruitment program.

She said that TeenScreen prefers active consent. The reason she gave was that of parents who give active consent, they are much more likely to give consent for treatment if a mental health problem is identified.86% of teenscreen sites use active consent. in these, 57% of the parents give consent. 14% of sites use passive consent.of these, 84% of parents grant consent.Assent rate from the kids is 98%

the lesson was that if you sell the kids, they'll sell the parents.
You will want to see stats on the screening instruments
the Clackamas county presentation was even more enlightening. This lady was not the PR person that the Columbia girl was. Here are the barriers to treatment identified in Clackamas county:Stigma,Lack of trust in the government or school,"secrets",Dirversity/cultural awareness,Insurance,Isolation,Confidentiality,Family Resistance.
Both presenters made it sound like teenscreen had run into fierce opposition everywhere.

My favorite part of the NAMI convention was the Taser exhibit. I walked up to the booth and asked if this had something to do with an alternative to restraint and seclusion. He said, "exactly" the taser has been shown to be safe. I checked taser's website and they actually have a study on handling people who have "excited delirium" with a taser instead of restraint.Unbelievable. How in the world could NAMI even allow Taser to have an exhibit. Gross,
absolutely gross.

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Ziegler also testified about a family who called the police because they thought their son was having a psychiatric crisis.When the police came, he was hit with a Tazer gun by an officer. What was he doing that invoked this response? He was crying. (Laura Ziegler)
http://www.ncd.gov/newsroom/publications/2000/privilege...


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Tazering kids
http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/lofiversi...
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=154
The debate
http://chud.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80205



Nami and faith based therapy
http://www.unknownnews.net/050219d-13up.html

My thoughts on all this?????
We as a nation are Soooo fucked ... unless we get more anti authoritarian,more disobedient,more unruly, LOUD,Pissed off and learn to NOT trust the experts ..WE need to stand up for our freedoms NOW Stand up for every human being in America including those"other" people too(hey! Dems wake up! Alot of Fundies oppose teen screen too.They CAN be our allies on this issue).. (Stand up for the human rights for homeless,GBLT,disabled,non christian,less educated, mentally ill ect.fill in the___.).Because when one class or category of people lose their human rights be aware that the rest of 'us' have already lost our human rights...as well... and don't know it yet because domination never stops, so it's not about'us' and 'ours' it's all about all human beings having freedom not just one kind getting prferences..
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:15 AM
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1. I'm also appalled
It's shocking how they demand parental notification when it suits them (abortion) but do an end-run around it when it doesn't suit them.
As for more responses, my humble opinion is that your posting has a lot of information. If you broke it down into two or three postings, it might get more responses and more feedback on how to get this information out there to those who don't read DU.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 04:23 AM
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3. Parental notification
They demand parental notification for abortion because it is something the child wants, and usually doesn't want the parent to know about. Furthermore, allowing the child to have an abortion does nothing to control the child's behavior and therefore is of no value to the school/administration.


They don't demand parental notification for the MH screenings and other procedures because they want to slip it past the parents. If the parents aren't alerted to their intentions they are not able to object, and the procedures can go on.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:19 AM
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2. possible reason it dropped is . . .
that it takes some time to browse all those links . . . personally, I have your post bookmarked and will get back to it when I have the time . . . thanks for posting; looks like a lot of good info about an issue that I'm very concerned about . . .
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:53 PM
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4. So, how do you feel about people with acctive tuberculosis
who refuse to or can't keep it together to take their TB meds? Any local health department can seize and confine them, although it is rarely done. I've seen so many people go off their psych meds and end up killing or harming others. Your info needs to be broken down into digestible segments, as others have said. Have some religious cult take over is a nightmare and inhumane, in most cases. I've also seen psych meds ruin people's lives. This is a tough issue. We need to talk this one over.


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