This pisses me off

[undergroundpanther]

The elderly, poor and disabled are seen and now treated as "useless eaters" to utilitarian"normal" greedy fascist pigs in tennesee. The people who are"comfortable enough today" will fail to care,to do the right thing,fight for anybody else like usual because it's NOT them,why should they care,they got thiers,...Shit it's germany all over again.




http://www.unknownnews.org/041116tennessee.html

430,000 poor and disabled people dropped from Medicaid in Tennessee

Wilmington Star

Nov. 10, 2004

The governor announced plans Wednesday to dissolve Tennessee's expanded Medicaid system and drop 430,000 poor and disabled people from the rolls of the health-care program that has been devouring a large chunk of the state budget.

Democratic Gov. Phil Bredesen said Tennessee will instead return to a cheaper, more basic Medicaid program.

The move followed months of legal wrangling over the TennCare program, whose $7.8 billion price tag was projected to mushroom in coming years.

[displacedtexan]

1. I feel a Dickens Moment coming on...

"If he be like to die he had better do it and decrease the surplus population."

Ebeneezer Scrooge

[indigobusiness]

2. Nicely put.

That about sums it up.

[jwirr]

9. The exact sentiment of that era in

England that the eugenics movement started the idea that it is wrong to provide for the care of the "unfit" because it waters down the genetic strain of the "fit". Sick! Read "War Against the Weak" by Edwin Black.

[Banazir]

3. I have been attempting to warn people about this for some time.

The prejudices that were played upon with the "useless eater" concept back then never went away. I have already seen posters and webgraphics alike circulating about how much I cost my country and how many people like me exist, similar to the posters used in both the American and German eugenics movements. It was easy back then for people to turn such existing prejudices into concrete action that led to the deaths of many.

It is easy now, and I see it going on both quietly and not so quietly every day. Watching people I know being turned down for healthcare because they aren't seen to matter and have no way of communicating in a way a doctor will listen to, but hearing about their "right" to die (very little about their right to the assistance they need to live). Watching that when a person like me is murdered premeditatedly and in cold blood, whether by their parents or staff, the killer is almost never tried for murder and if they are, the sentence is reduced. Being told that I am a non-contributing citizen and that I should feel lucky I get anything from the government, and having so-called liberals debate right in front of my face whether it's worth "keeping" people like me and my friends alive, telling me I have to be realistic about how expensive some of us are while others -- the real (non-disabled) people, I guess -- aren't getting enough money or attention. "Ethicists" like Peter Singer take that a step further and advocate the viewing of some human beings (particularly those who cannot convince the Princeton professor that they are self-aware) as non-persons who may safely be killed to make way for the greater good.

There is an attitude of "It can't happen here, it won't happen here." It is already happening here. The attitudes and policies have been edging their way into place for a long time. I have seen disability scholars warning about this since the eighties. The "useless eater" mentality was never well-addressed as the hate that it is, and thus has never been laid to rest. Until it is laid to rest, we are all in danger.

[pop goes the weasel]

4. "useless eater"

Everytime I see a bureuacratic agency refer to clients as "consumers" (this is particularly prevalent in mental health care), I think "useless eaters." Health care consumers....consume means "to eat." Really, I think the mentality that the disabled are just consumers, not providers of any value, is entrenched, and we need to fight it.

[Banazir]

6. EXACTLY.

The whole line between so-called contributing members of society and so-called non-contributing members needs to be totally dismantled. Otherwise some will be seen essentially -- and already are by many -- as parasites, non-person humans, and useless eaters. That kind of dehumanization is one of the essential first steps to genocide.

We get called consumers in the developmental system as well as the psychiatric system. I have never been comfortable with it in either context: In the psychiatric system because the system nearly consumed me, and in the developmental system because of that sense of being considered some kind of leech.

[southlandshari]

29. Thank you, thank you, thank you

I work with people with physical and mental disabilities, and when I started my current job a few months ago, I was puzzled by this "consumer" term. I do not work for a state agency, but we do a ton of contract work for my state VR office, and "consumer" is definitely the buzzword in mental health and developmental disability circles.

I hate the term, but couldn't put my finger on exactly why until I read your message. I hate the term "client" as well, but "consumer" is no better.

[Banazir]

5. Exactly why some of us can't wait four years.

The following message was posted on one of the other forums in response to Elizabeth Edwards's call for patience. I have the permission of the author to repost, and I won't annotate any further because I couldn't say this any better:

Oak2004 wrote:

Patience, meaning persistence, yes, absolutely.

But patience, meaning inaction, or weak action, or believing that a voting system that exclusively registers the will of Straussian fascists and Christian Dominionists will, without major changes, magically respond to my will four years from now -- no.

You see, GW Bush plans to kill me.

I won't live to see that glorious day in 2008 when unicorns dance and frogs become princes and the rigged mechanisms that do not work, work this time.

I'm disabled. I'm dependent upon public housing, Medicaid, and the SSI program (I fell one quarter short of qualifying for SSDI, courtesy of a bankrupt former employer who fled town with his employees' payroll and withholding taxes, or, perhaps, lack thereof). If any one of those programs disappear for me, I'm dead.

I haven't the money for market rate housing, and people who need to breathe through tubes half the day don't do particularly well sleeping in alleys (besides, it's kind of hard to fit a wheelchair inside a cardboard box).

SSI checks won't buy health insurance. Without medical care I can't get out of bed. Without the Medicaid waiver program, I have no aides who clean the house and cook the food and who keep me clean so that I don't get infected skin ulcers yet again. People covered with yellow pus filled staph blisters who have no medical care have a lifespan measured in hours.

And if your income is zero, you have no family, and you haven't a prayer of engaging in gainful employment, all of the above and more happens, and you're dead.

It is the explicit intent of the Republican Party to kill me. John Kerry's call for unity, to my ears, sounds exactly like a pledge among brothers to see me dead as expeditiously and harmoniously as possible.

So, no, I can't patiently do nothing. I can't patiently wait for a magical process whereby, in four years, everything is all better. Even if I believed in fairies and unicorns and the power of empire to make reality, by then I will be all utterly worse. Mine wouldn't even be a noble sacrifice. I'd be wastage. I'd be scrap on the floor, spit out by the machinery of politics in the course of manufacturing power for someone else.

It is my intent and my pledge to manufacture power for me, and for all the people I see, and for all the people I don't see, as expeditiously as possible, harmoniously if possible, with as much disharmony as is necessary. I intend to do this whether or not any of my leaders decide they'd like to lead a bit this evening after dinner. The least that can happen is I'll die a patriot, rather than wastage.

Get well soon.

Laura T.
Burlington Vermont

[pop goes the weasel]

7. thanks!

I'm glad you shared that on this thread--Laura T says exactly what many of us feel.

[MellowOne]

23. Very powerful!

I'm appalled at what blindly happening in our country. There has to be justice in the universe somehow.

[Sugarbleus]

26. I hear you loud and clear Banazir!!

I said "I can't wait four more years" many times myself. I SEE the handwriting on the wall; I watched the cuts coming down the pike..it's not a surprise BUT I am appalled at how FAR these nazis will actually go. Having Bush win another four years.......DEVASTATED ME. At that point I KNEW what the next moves would be and I fear them.

I fight with what I have and with whom stands in the way. It would be much nicer/easier if people in places of authortiy could LISTEN to the problems you/I speak of and kindly try to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Yet, mostly I get a shrugged shoulder, a shaking of the head for how "bad things"are, and often a cold stare. That's when I go balistic. I don't want to get angry or confrontational but geezus, if I don't make noise, who will make it for me??!!

I read where $500+B is being spent on the Pentagon via this FY06 budget...any idea how much that money could help the struggling people of this country?? I'm simply APPALLED.

Banazir, I'm with you. What ever you start in terms of activism, I'll be happy to particiate. I do what I can on my own as it is but there's power in numbers.

Patience my ass!

Take care of yourself... SB

[nofurylike]

8. shriekin pissed!! GRRRR!!! and that talk of "draconian"

budget cuts by *:
"US promises draconian budget to reduce deficit"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x998847

thank you for this thread, undergroundpanther.
and thanks to all those who've posted here, and really GET it.

it seems this is IT.
saw it all there, bold, in reagonomics. now come to fruition.


our battle come.


keep on, all

i have always signed "peace."
not sure i can do that any more.

well, meaning world peace, and peace of mind and spirit, whatever comes:

Peace!

[undergroundpanther]

10. Thanks

The anger I feel is without end for elitists.

Also nobody EVER calls the rich corporate people'useless eaters'.But alot of them live off dividends and investments and don't do a lick of work. Tell me what good do these elitists do,for anyone? They make sure government is corrupted,wasteful, incompetant and full of strife and political backstabbing.These'elite' people exist to dominate others,steal and pretend they are someone they are not and they fool people with a mask of normalicy,thier'empathy' is fake.. People who decide to cut medicare than give up pork barrel bullshit or investigate the 'black budget'..Or who cut the social safety net to line thier own bulging to capacity pockets and cut benifiets gutting a company leaving employees broke,so they can have a great big golden parachute..It's those charismatic career"normals,rthe bullies with overweening ambition and no hearts who if you peel away the appearances popularity show and flattery, are sociopaths,eugenicists,the dictators the elitists, THEY are the useless eaters the consumers,of every life around them..They are the bully thieves and vicious parasites of society rolling in the wealth they systematically have stolen from EVERYONE for generations they use to fund thier fantasies of helping nature out or for empire and death. I don't know if planet Earth can take any more corporations that feed charismatic greedy pretenders that are sociopaths with no empathy.Who gives them this power they do not deserve ? These abusive well heeled pigs with no heart and no integrity...If you think about it,It's our kind of culture that is conditioned to revolve around rich parasites in high places.The greedy rich have duped and gaslighted the entire world into giving them everything for peanuts and the accomplices are the many self absorbed Nimby minded people who refuse to help the suffering when they are still fat and comfortable still trying to ape the REAL problem,those generational families of superwealthy,self-entitling, thieving parasite upper class..Who would kill off the disabled so they can get more.Elitists,colonialists,corporatists(fascists) and eugenicists are the really the cancerous destroyers of civilizations.

[nofurylike]

11. "sociopaths with no empathy" - absolutely! great essay!

you know, it's time for us all to remember and remind each other that those parasites can not even wipe their own lazy silver-spoon asses, much less get a hot meal without 'us' doing it for them.

it is time for us to stop digging their ditches.

people do not walk out and walk away from the parasites, because they (rightfully) fear for their survival (jobs, homes, feeding our children, urgent necessities). but now we've reached the point where we are not going to survive anyway, if we do not act immediately.

we've got to find some ways to express that.

it may feel impossible, but we've got to figure it out.

keep on


peace!

[nofurylike]

12. btw, so no one misunderstands,

i speak as one who has all too often needed others to wipe my ass.

as opposed to those just too spoiled rotten and lazy to wipe their own.


:)


peace!

[undergroundpanther]

13. The difference..

People that because of disability/injury or lack of knowlege how..or just too psychotic to notice thier ass is nasty and those who can't wipe thier own ass,so others do it for them,~People who would prefger to wipe thier own ass if they could or knew how or were aware...

VS
People who deliberately choose to not wipe thier own ass and like the idea of other people doing it .. people who are shameless who get off on power trips in thier own heads in making others do it,by dominating or abusing them or manipulating thier emotions,weaknesses, ,fears or dreams.Include in this list the people who go about bribing others without guilt to wipe thier ass for them even though they*can*do it themselves but would rather force people who are desperate to survive to do it FOR them because they can.

Fuck all these control freak,bullying, depraved, greedy ,self absorbed narcissitic,decadent people'on top'.People who everyone on earth knows can wipe thier own ass but instead CHOOSE to not wipe it because they think they are entitled to have it wiped..Bully fuckheads who gleefully kill,torture.deprive, apply force,manipulation or bribery to force others to do thier dirty work FOR them are depraved when they should do it by themselves and be accountable for it too,but are not..Fuck all these power seeking bullying 'normal' sociopaths ...who will destroy everything that does not bow down to them , refuses become like them,will not suck up and ape thier putrid ass, won't do as they command or who *can't* go along with the suicidal game of make believe our entire civilization plays with itself concerning corrption,elitism,hypocrasity ,hubris,abuse, power and ego,for physical,emotional or moral reasons.

Being an exploiter,manipulator, bully, dominator,violence against the non violent, or a detached machivellian greedhead seeking more than enough for yourself and your cronies,is *always" a choice.
Being mean to people not abusing you is a CHOICE.
It's a Choice to kill your own consience,your own compassion and kill your inner humanity in the name of ambition,power,greed,cowardice or"sucess".Don't be dazzled by a few meager financial bones thrown your way,a bit of flattery or some other feel good distraction fluff.Go to the heart of the issue,it's authoritarianism, abuse bullying,corruption and bad CHOICES..

Instead be different than the elitist,Choose Integrity instead.Personal courage and integrity cuts off the narcissitic power supply feeding corrupt people making these selish choices to opress,deprive,control,dominate, abuse or hurt others because they think they are"inferior" to themselves.Fuck the elitists!
No one is entitled to a status or pedistal above anyone else.
These "sucessful" people,these"normals" these well heeled hypocrites are no better quality of people than ANY of the rest of us are. Thier power and authority is and has always been self serving,empty noises, posturing and hot air.You can see how empty it is when you refuse to lower yourself by believing bullies are your betters..Than they freakout on you because the gig is up.

[nofurylike]

14. "Personal courage and integrity

cuts off the narcissitic power supply feeding corrupt people..."

all i've read of you
whew


slam poetry

you express it. you speak who we are surrounded by, and why it feels so foul.

you speak with that courage and integrity;
and reading that inspires it in me.

you all inspire it in me.


the gig is, yes, up. it is, yes, germany all over again.
"why some of us can't wait four more years"

it screams through me all the time, and then i hear that you here, in this particular forum, thread, know.

what do us "useless eaters" do?

i want to make a pact with any who will:

when they try to herd us, i will refuse and block the bullet, if some of you will please use my shield to wrench the gun from those hands.

it's coming time. once the shriek inside erases the last quality of life, why hesitate turning it outside?

you know. i hear it here.



thank you

[undergroundpanther]

15. I have a poem...

Forever Wild version 3

I resign from the human race.

Today I heard about some baby tigers.
Sweet perfect little felines too young to go off their mother's milk.
They were piled up like garbage, just frozen, and forgotten.
Starved to death and tossed aside, furry precious with lonely gas grimaces death in suspended waiting unloved in an icy steel grave.

No one cared to look inside this place,private property unviolated, because no one really cared about their lives to risk the wrath of a bully unjustified. Apathy is the civilized way to love. Stifle the empathy for convenience's sake, silence the cries and cover up the mess and deny the evidence of injustice, the voices of abuses and pain,the asshole must be exonerated,at all costs lest the truth be heard and the money lost.When life is made into a game of profit and legality,What is most precious in life is crushed so easily.
A living noble spirit becomes a commodity.

I can't stand it.
I want to escape this sickness called society.
And throw away my own humanity,and let my spirit roar..

One look into tiger's eyes as the tiger gazed back... that day, my heart was forever wild.A sacred gift for me from a tiger divine.This tiger was just spectacle a show,a hidden thing inside a cage nobody wanted to know.. Brother tiger eyes touched me through the chain link fence, and the bars dissapeared.
I saw my own soul ,A tiger divine in the cage..
And my tears burned like acid as they ran down my face.


Walking down an asphalt road, cars whiz by.
So unaware, stereo drowning out the birdsongs.
Tin cans of humanity so full of itself hurrying to a day they can't stand, hearts empty,persuing,exhausted on time, under threat.
Because this is how we are taught to live,assuming there is no other way.

CNN brings today's tragedy home . Another grande sanitized spectacle.
Another murder,another abused kid,another war,genocide..Why?
Is it the way we are forced to live in a world where integrity is dead because it makes no money for the economy.

I still long for a warm summer day that doesn't end with despair.
Another pill to make me sleep,and I can say no, too paralyzed as my choices are negated by control freaks "for my own good" lest they be shaken out of thier trance feeling my dispair from outside the dream of everything is fine.

They tell me I am crazy, a danger to myself and others.
And I torture no one,rape no one,I kill no human being.
I want to bite their throats out though. Because I am wild.
I fight thier control becauseI know myself well enough to know I would die in a cage of their making.

But the grass still is green amongst the cigarette butts, Big Mac wrappers and styrofoam cups.
It's Earth day,again proving Humanity CARES so much .
The stench of oil drifts up from the steamy tarmac,
a dead crow lies nearby,feathers falling from the bones,face locked in open beak scream,because he knows I know what injustice is.

Cows still go streaming by the millions down the Ultramarine chute,
A stun to the head with no way out.@4 hours a day everyday they die as thier Spongiform vengance finds it's way into brains, mad consumption rends..the fabric of thought,torn apart long ago by the love of money.

The anemic matted tangle of trees in the median strip are permanently bent sideways by wind that never stops.
They beckon to me . as 500 miles away I realize
Another chicken's beak is unceremoniously torn away to protect the greedy human hands taking her eggs away everyday. soon,dinner is ready with broken wings.
And a disabled child is abandoned,by mother druggie for the state to raise her because greedy mother wanted her drugs and a 'normal' child she wouldn't feel ashamed of in public because she is taught she cannot dare to love an imperfect body with medical liabilities.

I shiver, frost touches my skin.

I step past the signs, warning me to keep out.
Trespassers will be prosecuted then electrocuted.laugh.
A young child cries for father but he's dead, the child realizes his arms are gone.The red sand is the last thing he remembers,buried in his own home with his fathers dead body on top of him.Bush swaggers on Tv with a overstuffed crotch ridiculous ,victorious only in his own mind.
Meanwhile flowers dusty bow their heads as tanks roll in, a small cat runs for her life,dwarfed by the turret and chains her pounding heart,she scrambles away unseen by the driver of the machine.A photographer in the chaos managed to record a cat fleeting in front of the tank, tiny god in a cloud of dust.
War is psychotic symphony for death to dance to.
To make the power parasites that have no want,
feel stronger than the ones fighting to exist.
It is "normal" unavoidable human nature,so they say..

All bodies will not stop screaming when oppression settles in.
The mines go off in secret places, in the nice homes with a tyrant in every kitchen,and the black eye meets max factor foundation.
Bombs triggered by feet unawares, sending shrapnel into flesh
Random and capricious like his fathers' fists the day before.
My tears freeze into sharp lump of ice that cannot be swallowed.The rusty barbed wire marking loveless territory thrums it's protest as I step over the wire, ... I ignore it.
The air smells like honeysuckle ... and formaldehyde.

Running away from a world built on pain,
The destroyers chase me into corner like a hunter armed with a GPS and a vial of anectine.
It wants me disaplined,the bully shows me how to"suceed, the parent cocerces me to fit in and the job wants to give the love of aquiring things that takes until there is no more. But I'm gone again like a shooting star, no one sees me go...The leather cuffs make my feet go numb,my hands are lavender.Drowning in red razor screams,that have since turned into scars..There is no refuge for my kind, in this make-believe mind.Lost in this concrete hell ,people still demand frightful good manners from me.Why do I dare not cut myself out of here? It's harder to kill yourself than you would think.
I offend then condescend, Prozac anyone? Doctors drug of choice to ignore your own desperate longing for life beyond the cage door.

The sky is lit afire, thunder rumbles overhead
I think the sun is in my hand
The clouds paint one last strange masterpiece I can't let myself understand.My species so steeped in abuse, delusion,hubris,lies and poison,I am helplessly awake.They will not stop this game until they win or destroy everything.They will not let me leave this dream of thiers because they won't wake up!



The chains fall off my brain and the freezer door is unlocked,the secrets tumble out, CNN is there on the scene...Through the phosphor tube,I see ,tears in my eyes.Again I find myself gazing sad frozen feline eyes,my eyes.
Velvety young paws clutching nothing butlove abandoned,innocence murdered. Tigers without life up for sale, DOA for the rush for aquisition's sake they die.
I cry at the TV who does not hear me,screaming at the enchanted lies.Roaring inside like a tiger made of fire invisible to all,my heart rages to itself in my livingroom.I type a binary mystery code.Words are too limited to break the spell.

To all who would care,I want to caress their hearts with flame. A tiger divine that will not be captured, even while walking inside the cage . Walking an exodus left in the cold.I call out for you,to find courage to find your divine face..I bet it shines like the sun let me bask in your new found warmth. I will cover you with my wings to protect you from the coldness inside and we can walk out of this prison together.


—Underground Panther in the Sky...

[nofurylike]

16. "I am helplessly awake"

poet

we are here, witnesses and activists, for a reason. i think it is why we can not cheapen that calling by suicide.

i am thinking our walk out of this prison must be to leave the gate open to those who can not open it themselves.


the world is blessed - in spite of itself! - by one whose heart is driven wild by the gaze of furry precious baby tigers, by innocents sacrificed to greed.

"A sacred gift for me from a tiger divine."

write. write and write.


and keep on



peace.....

[Banazir]

17. We cannot die quietly.

(This might make a good new thread but I don't think I can start new threads.)

If laws are passed such that we die, we need not to die quietly. If laws are passed such that we are in excruciating pain, we need to not suffer quietly. We need to do this in front of our politicians on the capitol steps, in front of the media, in front of the fundamentalist churches that have encouraged this, in front of whoever will see what is being done to us and be forced to acknowledge us. We cannot take this individually. We cannot just lie down and die, or lie down and writhe in pain, or lie down and take whatever else may happen to us when our services or medicines or civil rights are cut off. This cannot be a quiet genocide. It has to be seen, known, and acknowledged by as many people as possible and as many people in power as possible.

[undergroundpanther]

18. Umm

Forever wild isn't about suicide. I am sorry you thought that.

It's a poem about resistance,about walking into another way of life and leaving the ruin of others behind you and sepearting yourself from it.It's about making another community by walking past the iron fences and the dead birds and living free despite the threats wars and weapons trapping everyone refusing to see...It's about connecting to your inner spirit and not being caged by anything.It's about taking those frozen innocent hopes out of the freezer and loving them back to life. It's about resigning from human corruption so you walk as noble and firce and warm as a tiger wild among depraved numb people locked in a cocercive culture who would seek to cage you and freeze the tiger beating within the heart with a lack of love and kill it for money.
It's about telling those who would dominate I will not go away quietly into the cage of your design.

[Banazir]

19. If this is about my post...

I didn't think it's about suicide, if you're replying to me. I was talking about if they're going to kill us, and if that's going to happen for some of us, then we need to make as public a display of what they are doing to us as possible. Not dying in the corners of institutions or our houses or wherever we are thrown by the powers that be, but, if nothing else works (for some of us who need services in order to survive and can't get them), to sit on their doorstep and force them to acknowledge what they are doing to us.

I certainly wouldn't advocate suicide. I'm talking about the last-ditch situation where the service cuts are bad and we have no resources to live. I hope it will never come to that, but I know that if I am sentenced to die (i.e. have all services and other resources removed from my life) I'll be out there on the Capitol steps or wherever else will get the most people aware of what they're doing to us. And if I'm sentenced to live in debilitating pain (i.e. they stop coverage of my pain meds), likewise. I will make them see what they are doing.

I love your poem and this wasn't a reply to that.

[undergroundpanther]

20. Oh Ok

Guess I was confused than.. Thanks for clearing that up Banzier I'm sorry.

And yes,I agree with you .I think we all should use solidarity and make it painful for all the well off assholes who would cut your pain meds,or force people to suffer so they can spend more tax money they don't need,respect or deserve on themselves and blow it on thier ego trip empire fantasies and wars.
Fuck all these rich sociopathic self centered pieces of shit that sit in office and abuse power.Fuck all the shortsighted fools as well,who follow along with the rich bastards.. Bastards who would use money and the entire nations tax base as a tool of American genocide against people who have problems,less than perfect bodies,severe sicknesses and who are different!

[happynewyear]

21. thank you underground panther

and I do mean it. We've corresponded in the past and yeah, I'm still here too.

It is a very frightening reality for the disabled in this country. Someone said to me the other day, "You shouldn't fight. It is not good for you; the stress is bad." I replied, "It is far worse for me to say and do nothing than it is to continue to fight."

I hope there are other disabled persons that are of this same ilk. We are living humans with souls and we deserve whatever we might be lucky enough to have. If more is needed, it should be provided. These right to lifers just kill me, well almost for I won't let them!

:kick:

[Banazir]

22. Has anyone heard of anything being organized *in* Tennessee around this?

I don't live anywhere near Tennessee, hence the questions. Does anyone know anything about what's going on in Tennessee in response to this? Are people taking it individually, or are they realizing it's a massive cut aimed at a massive group of people? Are people there responding at all? (I don't trust the media to say one way or the other, knowing the way they've been these days.)

[Megahurtz]

24. Good God!!!

:wtf:What the hell are all of these people going to do? Does the government think that everyone will just go away or something? Fucking incredible!

[motherbell]

25. We can not take this laying down

These people don't care. They expect relatives to support the disabled. Can't wait till some of them start to see relatives crawling out of the woodwork for their support.
They are going to be begging to pay the taxes, instead of the pharmacy bill.

[feistykitty]

27. This makes me sick.

I think that Bush's plan might be to attack all of those who he thinks can't fight back. In theory, the rest of us will not care. It's time Bush got proven wrong.

[Sugarbleus]

28. I also think it's time Bush and anyone who thinks like him

Went "bye bye". :grr: