The beginning of the end

[ClericJohnPreston]

It is always darkest before the dawn......

Now, the madness is on full tilt in GDP. Obama basically picked up a total of SEVEN delegates on Hillary, which is enough for his dizzy supporters to announce he is the nominee.

Seven delegates. Last time I checked, he was entering a Convention where he didin't have enough votes to win.

But, why speak logically. It has failed to waken the drones from their somnambulistic meanderings when Obama stated the Repubs and Reagan were transformative. They are actually quoting THE DRUDGE REPORT NOW.

Thats right, DEMS QUOTING DRUDGE. Once upon a time, such "DEMS" would have been ridden out on a rail for their Rethug values and opinions. Now, it is de rigueur, the fashion at DU.

To me though, Obama signals the beginning of the end. The beginning of the end of the tyranny of my Party to a bunch of hack, neophyte voters without a whit of intellect and a bunch of Prozac addled depressives, looking for their next savior.

Next up, after the wipeout of our Party, will come the new Left wing. John Edwards populism is not dead, only waiting for the right time....2112 anyone?

[saracat]

1. I think we are done fore and I know i am done with this election. I will work on my local

campaigns but I will have nothing to do with the presidential election.

[Catchawave]

2. 2112 ? LOL, hope that's a typo.

Buzz over on the conservative (not freeperville) sites is Bobby Lindal (Gov-LA) for McCain's VP. The "kid" is only 36 and has more experience in his little finger than Obama has in his whole body.

Dems should be worried, that may lock in the GOP for another 8-16 years :(

[balantz]

3. You mean Bobby Jindal, with a "J"

That's some scary ammunition for the Son of Cain:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal

[Catchawave]

5. Yes, that's him.

(apologies to CJP for "correcting" his typo :blush:)

Unfortunately, Jindal won't help the ticket since LA is so red anyhow, and McCain thinks he can't attack Obama on the experience issue with such a young running mate.

Have been following Veepstakes on both sides since it's all I have left :silly:

[Greylyn58]

4. My Mom is the Democratic Judge in her precinct ...

and I just finished speaking with her to find out how things went. She told me they were very busy and that a lot of people showed in her area that had never voted before. Most were young, African-Americans that wanted to vote for Obama.

One story she told me was just sad. She said this one young guy came in to vote--had never voted before--wanted to vote for Obama. Unfortunately, this young black man had mistakenly registered as a Republican, not as a Democrat She had to tell him that he couldn't for Obama as he was a Democrat candidate. As a registered Republican, he could only vote for Republicans. She said he threw a fit and got really angry about it. How sad is it when these young voters don't know enough about politics to register with the correct party.

[Catchawave]

6. It's not just the kids....

My son and his wife (mid-30's) are registered Republicans in Florida and went to the polls to vote for Edwards. Told they couldn't, so they voted uncommitted. Even if they were registered independents, they still couldn't vote Dem in a primary, but ok for the General.

My state is Open. Everybody votes for anybody they want. Some states let you register and vote on the same day. I had no idea rules were different state-to-state.

We need to make primary season smarter, not harder :)

[ChiciB1]

10. Yes, Things Are As You've Stated Here In Florida... But I DID Vote Edwards!!! n/t

[ClericJohnPreston]

7. I know what you are saying

The Obama "phenomena" is nothing but the by-product of political naivete and manipulation. This guy makes "slick Willy" Clinton comments look like chicken feed, as he is the complete construction of political strategist David Axelrod.

The pure Obama is a guy named Barry, who made up whole fiction about his political identity from a supposed story that never existed, lied about friends, and made up uncomfirmed myths.

[MissDeeds]

8. Sad indeed

And it makes you wonder how informed he is about his candidate, Obama.

[ChiciB1]

9. I MOST Certainly Share Your Thoughts!!! Quite Some Time Ago I Made

a decision NOT to be involved in this ELECTION, or whatever one may like to call it. I myself have dropped out of sight because despite my attempts I'm STILL unable to shake my DEPRESSION!!

Right after the "Edwards Suspension" I had thought I could still stay involved and make the best of it and wanted to keep my spirits high enough to become involved with so many of you who are still very active. Perhaps in time my once fierce "activism" will kick in again, but as days go by and I see that regardless of what THE PEOPLE think, my feeling is that we are being ignored in a very BIG way, and many many Democrats have disappointed me.

To those of you who fight on you have my greatest respect, but at least once a week my tears are hard to stop. I still keep my Edwards bumper stickers on my car and mail box even IF he may do the "Obama Thing!" Personally he may be doing it to stay viable for the future, but most of all my wish is that we could build a seriously STRONG THIRD PARTY! We are being manipulated by those in POWER here in America and I wonder just how long it will take ENOUGH people to RISE UP and drive, fly or walk their way to D.C. and say ENOUGH! However as time goes by many will become more and more unable to even have enough money to do much of anything!

Sorry if my post reminds others of what I feel we've lost, but I'm still trying to find my way!

[cornermouse]

11. Have you considered doing something on a county or state level?

I think that's where I'm going to pin my hopes.

[ChiciB1]

12. UNFORTUNATELY, I Live In The County Where Katherine Harris

WAS the Representative for TWO terms and this county IS NOT one that elects Democrats. In 2006 it ALMOST happened with Christine Jennings, who was once a Repuke turned Democrat. However, she would be considered a real DINO in MHO. Somehow 18,000 plus went missing in the ONE district of the County that she was strongest in. There was a 369 difference and even though I and many others helped to contest it, it was a FEEBLE effort.

I have lived in this county for over 25 years and I can't remember a time when a Democrat was elected to Congress. I may have forgotten and it "may" have happened, but I doubt it! Even my involvement with some other Democrats here have been very lame. A large turn out for an event "might" consist of 300 people. So, even here it's DEPRESSING!

[Two Americas]

13. taking that first step

I don't understand people's reluctance to finish their thoughts, to look at the obvious solution. Why do they suffer, wring their hands, stay frustrated and miserable? What do we have to lose?

Start a new party. It is simple, obvious and easy. There is nothing in the way. I know, "it can't work it won't happen you have to work within the system this is the way things are and who are you blah blah." All of that has been thoroughly discredited and exposed for what it is - a way to keep things from changing, cleverly, by saying that they can't change and "here are the reasons that all people who are not crazy agree with." The old "don't get me wrong I agree with you but..." argument. People who say that don't agree with you. They are misleading you.

Then we have the "you are hurting the Dems!" or "helping the Republicans!!" fear mongering campaigns. Not true, and easily overcome. Start a new party with these tactical and strategic goals: that we will keep fighting and building the organization until...

1. The Democratic party is forced to change and truly represent the people, because of the pressure we bring on the party.

2. The new movement is strong enough to replace the Democratic party.

3. There is a collapse and re-organization of the current two parties.

Meanwhile, there is nothing that says we have to "hurt Democrats" or "help Republicans" as we build the party. You vote Dem - just as the religious right continued to vote Republican as they built clout and leverage - and just as the Liberal party in New York or the DFL in Minnesota, you throw your support to the Dems as it is tactically sound to do so without giving up your own momentum, your ultimate goals, or your principles.

Then we have these barriers (all illusions in our minds) - we would need to have a lot of money, we would need MSM exposure, we would need important and famous people helping us, we would need blah blah blah. No we don't need any of that, nor would we want it. The colonists had hand presses, horseback delivery, and a largely illiterate audience. They didn't use any of the excuses we are using. The last thing we want to do is beg for crumbs from the table from the MSM, the big shots, or the money people. Our goal is to overthrow them. Isn't it? If it is, let's get going. If it isn't, let's stop complaining when complaining is all we are ever going to do.

Then we have "but there aren't enough people that support this!" Nonsense. It is our job to get people to support this, and they would - in their millions. Five people on the same page and committed would be sufficient, and it would grow from there. Think about that - getting five people together is a barrier, that is just how screwed up and confused and divided we have become.

Nothing wrong with any of that - it isn't being a "traitor" to the Dems, it isn't helping the Republicans - it is the Republicans worst dream come true, and it is the best thing that could ever happen for Democrats everywhere.