Anyone think he'll consider JRE for VP?

[Critters2]

If he does, would that change your feelings about things?

Me, I don't see it happening. It's possible he'll throw a bone to the left, but I'd be (pleasantly) surprised.

[Andrea]

1. I think he might

He needs some help with working people and JRE would certainly help with that. Whether he would accept or not, I don't know.

I don't know if it would change my feelings about Obama or about JRE. It could go either way at this point.

[iris5426]

2. Since he'll have my vote anyways, I think it would make me feel a little better about casting it

but I don't know if JRE would do it...

[saracat]

3. Not for me. I have gotten over my anger at JRE but not enough to vote for the O.Ugh!

If anything , it would make me feel even more betrayed.

[balantz]

4. You know

that anger toward J.E. seems more and more justified for me.

Lately I am even toying with the idea that his campaign was not sincere, but just a slick distraction and diffusion of the far left movement. That's how all of this insanity is affecting me.

[saracat]

5. I dunno. I hate to believe that but I must say my faith in anyone or anything has been badly

shattered lately. I even think I may be suffering PSTD over the loss of my politcal party! And possibly, my country!

[balantz]

6. I don't "believe" that about J.E., I just have to sometimes consider it.

In my opinion he should have waited to endorse if he were truly everything he said he was.

I no longer have faith in my party. It isn't what I thought it was. I've been a Democrat since birth, but this past nine months of actually learning to be more aware and doing more than just plunking down my vote has shown me more of what is really going on.

I'm thinking now that the division between D and R is just another ploy for the corporations to divide and control us.

[saracat]

7. And that I agree with. I just don't know really WHY John does what he does anymore.

And it is awfully quiet about Elizabeth and she was never one to be quiet. I almost wonder what they "did" to them. Maxine Waters has admitted she was threatened and pressured by the OBOTS. That was why she endorsed.I just don't quite believe John likes Obama. it may be wishful thinking but after all the nasty things he did to John, how could he endorse him? And right after saying he wouldn't endorse anyone who didn't support universal health care? Bizarre!

[balantz]

8. It is bizarre behavior.

But so was his dumping us right before Super Tuesday.

WTF?!

There are just too many bizarre actions and questions that make me wonder what is really going on.

I would love to hear from Elizabeth and get her opinion about the whole thing. Of course she will probably remain silent. She is the one who should have run for president. She has much more intelligence and wisdom than her hubby.

[Critters2]

9. I hadn't heard that about Waters. That's disturbing!! nt

[MissDeeds]

11. I'm going to just go all out

and say what I really think. This may get deleted, I may get TSd, but I've been a Democrat since conception and I've earned the right to speak my mind.

This whole Obama phenomenon reeks of collusion, high-jinks, and manipulation. The guy was pulled from near obscurity as a STATE senator to make the KEYNOTE address at the Democratic Convention in 2004 - chosen above long time Dems in the House and Senate who had demonstrated track records of leadership and opposition to Bush. After less than one full term in the US Senate, he's off and running for The Highest Office In The World. - Think about that for a moment. - Democratic big guns came out of the woodwork and bowed before the chosen/anointed one - Kerry and Kennedy to name a couple. And WHY did this happen? What the hell had he done in his ONE HALF TERM in the US Senate to inspire such awe and stupefying support? Look at his record - or lack thereof. He didn't do a damn thing to garner such an outpouring of hero worship, such unbridled faith, trust, and adoration. What is going on here?

Are we so brow-beaten that we dare not ask the obvious question: Who is behind this, and why?


Oh, and in case this is pulled for being "in the wrong forum" and having nothing to do with John Edwards. let me say this: "John Edwards, John Edwards, John Edwards".

[saracat]

13. Oh Yes indeed Ms Deeds. You and I concur 100%. I agree. Something is very wrong

I have always asked as well "Why" there were "Obama for President 2008" signs at the Democratic Convention filling the Hall for an obscure Illinois state Senator. They looked "exactly like the signs he uses today. They even have the same "pepsi" logo. Who dod that?And He was boasted of as the "creation of the Ill. majority leader, who assigned him others legislation to "look good". That same man Jones threatened the CBC and said they "had better not stand in the way of a Black nominee". It is too odd for me. There is something evil here.

[cornermouse]

16. I was thinking about this today too;

mostly while watching the mainstream media do what was pretty much advertising as part of the evening news. I think this election, like everything else lately, comes down to money. Who's going to generate the most interest and money for the various entities involved in elections? I think that's why Edwards and the others "left" the race so early.

[AndyA]

28. I think you have a valid concern.

Obama's record is what it is. And impressive it is not.

Edwards is on record as stating he is not interested in the VP spot, and since he's been down that road before, I doubt he'll be interested in doing it again.

But...Attorney General Edwards has a nice ring to it, and we all know the Justice Department is screwed up beyond recognition right now, so they'll need someone strong to straighten it out. And John might be just the person to go after Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Rice, etc.

But yes, to yank someone out of virtual obscurity and force them before the masses in the manner Obama has been handled, does make me curious. And especially since Congress has turned a blind eye toward the fact that George Bush lied to America. Lied to Congress. Lied to the United Nations. LIED. Yet nothing has been done to address this.

Why?

That is what makes me the most suspicious. If we can't trust the word of the President, he is not fit for office.

Edwards would be a great asset to the next Dem administration.

[MissDeeds]

29. Perhaps JE as been tapped to be attorney general

Maybe that is why Edwards endorsed Obama. But that still goes against his voiced concerns regarding Obama's candidacy, that being Obama's lack of experience. Another thing I find troubling is Elizabeth's silence. She is not one to remain in the background and keep quiet. If she supports BO, she would be vocal in her endorsement. She must have concerns and reservations, regardless of what he may have promised JE.

I don't know what to make of all this. It is just bizarre on so many levels.

[Two Americas]

10. my concern

My concern is no longer about what this or that politician may or may not do. Far too much is being asked of us, and I am concerned about those here, about myself - and I think that there are millions who share our disgust and alienation who are not being heard from and I am concerned about them. I can't play the game anymore - it seems obscene and morally unacceptable to me. They have gone too far this time. I don't know what is going to happen and don't have any brilliant ideas for alternatives. I think that an alternative will emerge and soon, and that the barrier to that is our propensity to crawl back and lick the boots of our abusers again and again, and then to shut down and stop thinking about or exploring alternatives.

So my bags are packed, and I am not going to spend any more time suffering through this agonizing process and moral compromise that is required if you are going to participate in party politics as they are currently configured. I will vote for the nominee I suppose or I won't or whatever. Life is too short, the stakes are too high, too many people are suffering, there have been too many betrayals. They can tell us that we have no choice and that we have to get in line and on and on, I don't care. At some point you have to say that enough is enough and stop living a lie, even if you have no other alternative.

I would rather never think about politics again the rest of my life than to gpo through anymore of what we have gone through the last few months. And for what? Nothing ever changes, and it never will. It is rigged so that nothing ever changes. Those of us who see that and who call for real change, rather than vacuous hope and belief, are at best tolerated and subjected to endless abuse. I can say the exact same things I say here to groups of Republicans and not get abused or ignored the way I do by Democrats. So many Republican voters are up for grabs right now, more so than I have seen in 30 years or so, and are more than willing to embrace a New Deal program, but they are not willing to support a gentrified neo-liberal program. The Edwards campaign when contrasted with the Obama campaign brings the difference between those two into stark relief. The aggressive faction that has seized control over the party wants to claim and completely own the New Deal lock stock and barrel for the purpose of making sure it doesn't get loose from their control so that there is no danger of it ever happening. That means that we are in the odd situation of finding many Dem activists in more opposition to us than many Republican voters are.

[Andrea]

14. Are those metaphorical or literal bags that you have packed, TA?

As you know, I have real concern about being able to live in this country if we slip further into fascism. The alternative might be to "never think about politics again the rest of my life" as you said, but I'm not sure I'm capable of it. Do you think you are? I'm still searching...

[Two Americas]

17. was afraid of that lol

Oh my all of these difficult questions. I was afraid someone might ask those. I will definitely be thinking about social issues and real politics, but the insanity that passes for politics today is another story. For 30 years I have been hearing that we need to hang in there and pretty soon we will get to real politics, but we are farther away from that today than ever. I am not interested in the New Age social movement - opposed to it if anything - and that is what liberalism has become, and now it has taken over the party. Maybe I should call it "Oprah-ism" - that strange blend of self-actualization and lifestyle politics, with an intense focus on the individual (those who can afford to live the life) media-created reality and cults of personality.

It is an odd thing to have half of the Democrats celebrating this week as though some great victory has been achieved, while others of us are coming to terms with the fact that a lifetime of dreams has died and that we have reached a dead end after all of these years.

[Andrea]

21. There's a kind of creepy synchronicity to it, when you frame it that way.

I could almost link the kind of New Age social movement you are referring to, to the rise of Oprah. And then there's that other movement she launched...what was it again?...started with an O...

[balantz]

24. There is a LOT of creepy synchronicity these days!

It must be something in the water.

Kool-aid?

[saracat]

27. Wow TA. You actually speak my thoughts!

"It is an odd thing to have half of the Democrats celebrating this week as though some great victory has been achieved, while others of us are coming to terms with the fact that a lifetime of dreams has died and that we have reached a dead end after all of these years."

[cornermouse]

12. I hope not.

I honestly think it would be an error of monumental proportion.

[SammyWinstonJack]

15. His ego is too big, so I doubt it! Damn, what a shame! Edwards was the real deal and now we have

this empty suit, who probably can't beat McSame. This sucks!

[balantz]

18. I checked in at that old place some of us had.

Anyone been there lately?

[Andrea]

19. I haven't, but I'm thinking maybe we better head back there

That's what I was referring to when I made the comment about the emergency evacuation.

[balantz]

20. Sorry, I'm a little dense sometimes. n/t

[Andrea]

22. No you're not.

Sometimes my subtlety crosses the line into obscurity.

[balantz]

23. Ha ha ha ha!

That's good! I'm afraid we may have to go there soon looking at the rabble-raising we are doing. If that happens they will lose some of the best lefties they had, and they won't even be aware of it.

[Andrea]

25. You got that right!! n/t

[Critters2]

26. Where? nt

[bobbolink]

39. The secret club for the top eschelon

[ChiciB1]

30. Nope...Not Gonna Happen... I Feel He Has Other Irons In the Fire!

Not sure what, but he's NOT STUPID, and IMHO... he "got" the message from the D.C. Elites and those in power!

Will he take AG?? Not sure, I think he's mulling things over but doesn't want to get DUMPED on again! And who can blame him??

[spooky3]

31. I think he'll choose a non-threatening, moderate-leaning white male.

Since JRE has his own strong ideas, and may be perceived as a "loser" by some of the electorate, I think this leaves him out.

There are plenty to choose from.

[balantz]

32. I think they will choose Webb for the ticket n/t

[cornermouse]

34. My understanding is that Webb is a lady's man and somewhat

sexist as well? I don't know whether that's true or not but if it is true, after the way they've attacked Bill Clinton about his affairs how can they possibly support him for V.P.?

[balantz]

35. Actually, a lot of people think that's kinda sexy.

[balantz]

36. But you could be right.

Who do you think they will pick for Obama?

[cornermouse]

37. I have no idea.

[Seabiscuit]

33. Nope. I'd like to see Obama forced to accept CJP as VP. Y'Obama - how'd you like dem apples?

[benny05]

38. No, and he said again yesterday

He is not under consideration.

Watch this clip from a news conference in Barcelona on Thur:

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=8190210

Notice how he said what he would take in account if he were the nominee and was selecting a VP: one who shares a real bold vision.

[MissDeeds]

40. Kick