JE for VP?

[balantz]

Just caught this on the front page here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6364896

[saracat]

1. I hope not..He doesn't need to be "hindered or play second fiddle".

I also am unhappy he seems to be breaking his word again.I had just gotten over my anger for his endorsing anyone when he said he wouldn't! Sigh.Odd. Wonder if this has to do with Stricland and Warner both refusing to consider VP and Kerry saying he would consider it? I think ity would be rediculous for either to be VP at this point.If Obama were elected I would Like to see John be Attorney General.VP would be a waste for him.

[bhikkhu]

2. I'm happy to agree with you

VP is a very limited position with a small role, some photo ops, and the expectation of agreeing with the President on everything. Attorney General is a much more active and responsible role, and a position where independent initiative has more value. Edwards would be perfect.

[balantz]

3. The current VP has "accomplished" quite a lot in his position. n/t

[cornermouse]

4. That's because his " boss"

is a nitwit. Fact is Cheney is actually the "boss".

[balantz]

5. Even though the choice is what it is for dems

we have to at least get the numbers out there to try and overwhelm the gop bastards' dirty tricks so we can "hope"fully start dismantling their hold.

Whether I trust Obama or not, trust the dem party anymore or not, or even JRE or not, the dems are the only viable choice this election.

I certainly don't trust the pugs or the evil cabal in power.

If JRE can help the dems win then fine by me.

There, I said it.

[MissDeeds]

7. Maybe he sees this as his way to the WH

in eight years. I don't know anymore. It's hard to keep up with all the changes. Frankly, I think Edwards would have more impact as attorney general or even (hope upon hope!) on the Supreme Court.
I don't like the idea of him playing second fiddle to Obama when JE would clearly be the more insightful, informed, and experienced person on the ticket.

[saracat]

8. I think I am getting to the point I am past caring. Anyone can do as they wish. It doesn't mean any

thing anymore.

[bhikkhu]

10. That's the point I was at during the Reagan years

Having watched Carter go down and popular opinion go entirely away from what I thought was best.

Perhaps given the circumstances "it doesn't mean anything" stemmed from self-preservation (or sanity preservation). But in retrospect it meant a great deal, and I was completely wrong. The country is so much more screwed up now in so many ways than it was then, and I remember thinking "things can't get worse, people would never stand for it, so what does it matter?"

I don't want to make the same mistake again.

[MissDeeds]

12. I agree completely

What is said today is contradicted or changed tomorrow. I hate to admit it, but 'flip flop' keeps running through my mind. It's dizzying.

[frogmarch]

6. I want JE to be VP n/t

[Two Americas]

9. mixed blessing

Installing a person as VP can be, and more often than not has been, a damned good way to silence the voice of the person selected. It is a position with no duties and responsibilities to speak of, and no power. It can be useful to the presidential candidate, however, for getting the people in an otherwise recalcitrant or dissident faction of the party to get into lockstep and shut up.

[maryf]

11. Maybe different in this case

I think Obama may perhaps be realistic about his shortcomings (hope, hope), and may choose someone he can utilize for his savvy, and outlook. We'll see. I think, politically, it might be a really good move.

[Two Americas]

13. I agree

It could be a smart move politically for Obama. Not sure what that means for the people, though. I would be VERY surprised if Obama consulted Edwards or gave him any serious role in the administration. That would be at odds with everything else that has happened. We are not hearing a thing about the have-nots anymore from the campaign, now that there is no political need to do that as Edwards recedes from view and the Edwards supporters are silenced, driven off, or otherwise neutralized. What we are hearing is quite the opposite.

[cornermouse]

14. Don't you think that's partly because not only is it easier and

more convenient to push the poor off to the side and out of sight but there is actual political danger if they tell the truth about the economy; they might lose the next election and their seat? And then there's the media's eager cooperation and complicity in this.

[Two Americas]

16. yes agreed

Well said.

[balantz]

17. More than anything else

the media is the pin around which everything revolves. I recently just did not trust the media because I thought it was all for pushing products for profit. The sentiment has turned to disdain because i see that the media are in the hands of the fascists. You know the very last thing they care about is the poor.

[waiting for hope]

15. I'm thinking the Obama camp is really

looking into the fact that Obama is having a hard time connecting with middle class white voters. That's all I've been hearing in the media for the last week, and they are just getting warmed up. Just think of three more months of saying Obama can not win that portion of the voting block - and then the meme becomes reality. I believe it's more wishful thinking from the Obama crowd:

"I'd take anything he asked me to think about seriously," Edwards explained in a "This Week" interview with George Stephanopoulos.

The former 2008 presidential candidate was quick to clarify, however, that he is not actively pursuing the job. "But obviously this is something I've done and it's not a job that I'm seeking."

As the veepstakes continue to heat up, Edwards said Obama should be left to make an independent decision. "Senator Obama ... has earned the right to make this decision for himself. I think he has enormous choices available to him, really great choices available to him. And I think he'll go through this process in a thoughtful, orderly way, and he'll decide who he wants to be his running mate. And that's exactly how it should be done."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/06/edwards-has-not.html